PC Build for 11yr old to Play Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

Martinr36

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Going by the reaction I guess I forgot to mention me and the GF split up a month or so back :unsure:

Hardest part was definitely seeing Ella drive away! Loved that motor. Slumming it with the Supra now :LOL:
Sorry to hear mate.........that must be terrible slumming it with the Supra 😏
 

3qtrsamericano

Bright Spark
QQ: do PCS install the OS on the faster drive irrespective of size? i.e. would they install it on a 1TB SSD if it's faster than the 500GB SSD?

Do I need to tell them which drive the OS should be installed on?
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
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QQ: do PCS install the OS on the faster drive irrespective of size? i.e. would they install it on a 1TB SSD if it's faster than the 500GB SSD?

Do I need to tell them which drive the OS should be installed on?

It used to give the option when going through with the order. They tend to install on the fastest drive, which would previously be the first M2 drive..... but with the great options coming in for second drives now (and value) it's a bit greyer.

I would contact them on text chat just to confirm it's going on the first M2 drive.
 

3qtrsamericano

Bright Spark
It used to give the option when going through with the order. They tend to install on the fastest drive, which would previously be the first M2 drive..... but with the great options coming in for second drives now (and value) it's a bit greyer.

I would contact them on text chat just to confirm it's going on the first M2 drive.
Thanks @Scott. My first M2 is (currently) the faster drive. But I'm only on 13 WD's so there is probably a good chance that I will upgrade my second M2 which would end up making that the faster drive! 👀

Will contact them on chat if (when) I upgrade it! 🤣
 

3qtrsamericano

Bright Spark
Is there a tangible/real world benefit for having something like the 980 1TB as the second M2 vs the Intel 670? When the second M2 will mainly be used to load up games?
 

Martinr36

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Is there a tangible/real world benefit for having something like the 980 1TB as the second M2 vs the Intel 670? When the second M2 will mainly be used to load up games?
With directstorage coming i think the answer will be yes

 

3qtrsamericano

Bright Spark
With directstorage coming i think the answer will be yes

Thanks @Martinr36. So basically, the faster the drive, the better if I'm reading correctly:

Instead of loading large chunks at a time with very few IO requests, games now break assets like textures down into smaller pieces, only loading in the pieces that are needed for the current scene being rendered. This approach is much more memory efficient and can deliver better looking scenes, though it does generate many more IO requests.
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
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With FS2020 I can't imagine there being a real world advantage to be honest. It just doesn't work like conventional games and relies heavily upon the internet. I don't think the storage drive is going to be the limitation.

It'll help with the initial load time as FS2020 is incredibly large, but the difference between those 2 particular drives is going to be minimal.
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
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I did consider direct storage, but I don't think it'll impact FS2020 in any way. It's more for scene/level loading and decreasing the delays. With FS2020 there isn't really a direct to RAM benefit. It'll probably exist, but again it'll be minimal between those drives.
 

3qtrsamericano

Bright Spark
Well this is disappointing. Just been told that the only RAM options available are as listed below with no ETA on when more stock is expected to arrive:

16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (1 x 16GB)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3000MHz (1 x 16GB) - don't think this is even an option

My current order is: 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)

@Martinr36 @Scott recommendations please? My gut tells me to wait it out.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Well this is disappointing. Just been told that the only RAM options available are as listed below with no ETA on when more stock is expected to arrive:

16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (1 x 16GB)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3000MHz (1 x 16GB)

My current order is: 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)

@Martinr36 @Scott recommendations please? My gut tells me to wait it out.
If you're willing to take a small hit on cost, you could order the minimum spec ram you can, and then just buy some yourself to fit, would save time and actually you may be able to source some higher spec 3600mhz RAM which would be optimal.
 

MrWilson

Godlike
If you're willing to take a small hit on cost, you could order the minimum spec ram you can, and then just buy some yourself to fit, would save time and actually you may be able to source some higher spec 3600mhz RAM which would be optimal.
That’s what I did. I ordered 1x4GB 2400mhz RAM from PCS and then nabbed some RAM on another site. It came out cheaper and I got 3600mhz CL16 instead of the 3600mhz CL18 RAM that the Corsair RAM comes as.
Upside is you save a little bit of money (think I saved around £40 at the time), downside is you have to fit the RAM yourself, and the RAM is not covered by PCS warranty.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Thanks @SpyderTracks. What do you mean by "higher spec 3600mhz"?
The short drift is that the difference in performance between the RAM PCS stocks between 3200 and 3600 is minimal because the timings of the 3600 are slower so they're very even in actual performance.

You could source 3600 with lower timings like 16-16-16-36 vs the 20-20-20-44 that PCS stock
 

3qtrsamericano

Bright Spark
Thanks both. Going to be honest....this is all Greek to me. I was hoping to get the build as ordered without me having to "fettle" with it. Gawd knows I'll be doing that plenty with the darn Flight Sim! :rolleyes:

Looks like I'll just have to wait.
 
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MrWilson

Godlike
Thanks both. Going to be honest....this is all Greek to me. I was hoping to get the build as ordered without me having to "fettle" with it. Gawd knows I'll be doing that plenty with the darn Flight Sim! :rolleyes:

Looks like I'll just to wait.
That's a very valid option, but from my own experience, switching new RAM in is quite a straightforward procedure, and might be a fun thing to do with your son. The welcome pack comes with a motherboard manual which should give you a step by step guide to install. Not trying to persuade you either way, just basing the experience on what I did!
 
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