Help with motherboard and Med Med High Spec

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Littlesackninja

Bronze Level Poster
Hi, I have a few questions regarding building a pc from this website.

The pc i intend to build is in the £750 mark and should run medium-high end games on medium and high settings.

Question 1.0:
Im contemplating buying a pc ( https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/intel-haswell-pc/ ) Is this spec good and will any problems arise like two low power or to small case?
PCS ALPHA TRION 7622B BLACK CASE
Intel® Core™ i5-4590
Gigabyte Z97-HD3
8GB HYPER-X BEAST 2133MHz
GPU
2GB AMD RADEON™ R9 270X
1TB 3.5" SEAGATE HYBRID DRIVE
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER
Corsair 650w vs series bs-650
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1)
Wireless 802 11n 300mbps pci card
2 x USB 3.0 PORTS & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS

Question 1.1:
Do i need the coolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO Or can i use the Super Quiet 22dBA Cooler?

Question 1.2:
Is the motherboard that i chose a powerful one? I read up on it and all i found was it is "Ultra durable" This is fine but is its performance good?

Question 1.3:
Do i need the Wireless 802 11n 300mbps pci card to have wireless connection and can it do lan aswell (and lan through plugs) or can i just use the one above it (10/100/1000 Gigabit lan port thing? Does the gigatbit thing do wireless?

Question 1.4:
Do i need the gpu and will it help or just make it hotter and stuff?

Question 1.5:
Will the 650w power supply be enough?

Question 1.6:
Is there a way i can have build in sound?

Question 1.7:
Is the hybrid drive i chose a fast drive?

Question 1.8:
Will any problems arise?

Question 1.9:
Is it a powerful setup?

Question 2.0:
Are the ram cards (8GB HYPER-X BEAST 2133MHz) Fast cards?

Question 2.1:
Will it fit in the case?

Sorry for the many questions but i just want to be sure when i buy it.
Appreciate the help in advance :)
(The machine is supposed to be a medium-high end spec machine)
 
keynes

keynes

Multiverse Poster
Strange numbering
1- Not for gaming, for your budget it means compromising on other parts as well. Triple copper is fine.
2- powerful for? any motherboard in the configurator should offer similar performance for gaming.
3- if you want to connect wireless you need a wireless card or a pair of homeplugs
4- For gaming you need a gpu
5- Yes
6- What do you mean? like onboard audio? that's standard with any motherboard
7- Faster than the standard hdd but not as good as an SSD.
8- No
9- It depends on what sort of games you wish to play. For demanding games at ultra settings with +40fps you need around £1000+
10- Fast for? for gaming whether you get 1600mhz or higher won't make a real difference.
11- If the configurator allows you to choose it then yes.
For £750 you can get a much better gpu with a AMD cpu.
 
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A314159

Super Star
A few things: motherboards will not change performance, neither will faster RAM. For gaming you NEED a gpu (on low settings, without a gpu even minecraft runs at 20fps). The spec you posted looks quite good though. I would consider downgrading to the 4460 and upgrading to the gtx760 if you can afford it, although the 270x is a pretty amazing card as well. The hybrid drive HDD isn't very good though. I would get a 1tb caviar black drive. You would be fine with any cpu cooler, but I would upgrade the case to the t900 or th haf912 (both £59). Just get the hyperxfury ram. If there would be any problems the configuarator should in theory tell you.
 
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TheGeeza

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A314159 said:
A few things: motherboards will not change performance, neither will faster RAM. For gaming you NEED a gpu (on low settings, without a gpu even minecraft runs at 20fps). The spec you posted looks quite good though. I would consider downgrading to the 4460 and upgrading to the gtx760 if you can afford it, although the 270x is a pretty amazing card as well. The hybrid drive HDD isn't very good though. I would get a 1tb caviar black drive. You would be fine with any cpu cooler, but I would upgrade the case to the t900 or th haf912 (both £59). Just get the hyperxfury ram. If there would be any problems the configuarator should in theory tell you.
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In the OPs budget it would be wise to go for an AMD build like keynes suggested.
 
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TheGeeza

Guest
Littlesackninja said:
Thanks for the quick replys, One quick one, Would i be fine with 550w power supply or will i need 650w?
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If you could fit a 650 in your budget then I would probaby say yes get it but If you don't plan on doing any future upgrades and if the configurator says that 550 is fine then don't bother.

Get keynes spec below :)
 
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keynes

keynes

Multiverse Poster
Case
InWIN GT1 BLACK GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD FX-6300 Six Core CPU (3.50GHz/8MB CACHE/AM3+)
Motherboard
Gigabyte 990XA-UD3 AM3+ (ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Free Item
FREE WATCH DOGS with GTX 660 & 7 Series GPUs!
1st Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 8.1 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity
1

Price: £759.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/amd-bulldozer-top-spec-pc/BBppzHtwa8/
 
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Littlesackninja

Bronze Level Poster
Isnt the caviar drive only hdd and not a hybrid so surely a hybrid drive would be faster than hdd but slower than ssd like keynes suggested? Also i meant a powerful setup by "can it run games like crysis 3 on atleast medium settings"
 
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Littlesackninja

Bronze Level Poster
keynes said:
Case
InWIN GT1 BLACK GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD FX-6300 Six Core CPU (3.50GHz/8MB CACHE/AM3+)
Motherboard
Gigabyte 990XA-UD3 AM3+ (ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Free Item
FREE WATCH DOGS with GTX 660 & 7 Series GPUs!
1st Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 8.1 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity
1

Price: £759.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/amd-bulldozer-top-spec-pc/BBppzHtwa8/
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Is the gtx 760 still a powerful card as its 59 quid cheaper and makes it in my range
 
keynes

keynes

Multiverse Poster
Littlesackninja said:
Thats a bit out of my budget, Im around £720 Max including vat
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I though it was £750 as indicated in your first post.
Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 200R COMPACT GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD FX-6300 Six Core CPU (3.50GHz/8MB CACHE/AM3+)
Motherboard
Gigabyte 970A-DS3P AM3+ (ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
Free Item
FREE WATCH DOGS with GTX 660 & 7 Series GPUs!
1st Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 8.1 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity
1

Price: £728.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/amd-bulldozer-top-spec-pc/bzq4_3aj0T/
 
keynes

keynes

Multiverse Poster
Littlesackninja said:
Does the amount of Gb on a graphics card affect performance? Is 2gb fine?
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The spec I posted is much better than the one you posted. VRAM on the gpu is not an issue unless you are gaming at high resolutions/more than 1 monitor
 
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Littlesackninja

Bronze Level Poster
I will probably be playing on 2 monitors sorry i forgot to say, So will the 2gb be fine for that? (the other monitor wont be doing anything serious, just web browsing and videos)
 
keynes

keynes

Multiverse Poster
Littlesackninja said:
I will probably be playing on 2 monitors sorry i forgot to say, So will the 2gb be fine for that? (the other monitor wont be doing anything serious, just web browsing and videos)
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You won't be able to play on two monitors with an Nvidia gpu (either 1 or 3)
For 1 or 2 monitors a 2gb VRAM gpu is fine.
 
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