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SpyderTracks

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Park_Ranger said:
Still waiting ? Haha.

It's a 5 minute swop, and another 5 installing the driver.
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Was moving from an old amd to nvidia so did full registry deletions etc.

It arrived at 10.15 this morning and I've been messing around with it since...

And WOW! I realise buying an FE card just out of impatience is pretty foolish, but actually I'm very pleased so far.

Have managed a stable overclock of 1977mhz for the core and 11ghz for the memory which is more than I was hoping for anyway. Using EVGA Precision and stressing with firestrike ultra on 3D mark (it's averaging 30fps at 4K!)

It's averaging about 70 degrees and fans are only at about 60%, so you can hear them, but it's in no means over the top. Better than I expected. Btw, the default fan profile is next to useless and you will hit 82 degrees and get throttling even when not overclocking. Well worth setting a custom profile straight out the box.

I haven't as yet tried pushing past this as I'm really happy with that performance but I reckon there's still some headroom to go. Think I lucked out with silicon lottery!

Played a few hours of Rise of the Tomb Raider and my god it's beautiful! This is coming from bog standard 60hz 1080p so for me the difference is astonishing!

Really happy, despite my impatience, it's worth every penny!
 
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Park_Ranger

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SpyderTracks said:
Was moving from an old amd to nvidia so did full registry deletions etc.

It arrived at 10.15 this morning and I've been messing around with it since...

And WOW! I realise buying an FE card just out of impatience is pretty foolish, but actually I'm very pleased so far.

Have managed a stable overclock of 1977mhz for the core and 11ghz for the memory which is more than I was hoping for anyway. Using EVGA Precision and stressing with firestrike ultra on 3D mark (it's averaging 30fps at 4K!)

It's averaging about 70 degrees and fans are only at about 60%, so you can hear them, but it's in no means over the top. Better than I expected. Btw, the default fan profile is next to useless and you will hit 82 degrees and get throttling even when not overclocking. Well worth setting a custom profile straight out the box.

I haven't as yet tried pushing past this as I'm really happy with that performance but I reckon there's still some headroom to go. Think I lucked out with silicon lottery!

Played a few hours of Rise of the Tomb Raider and my god it's beautiful! This is coming from bog standard 60hz 1080p so for me the difference is astonishing!

Really happy, despite my impatience, it's worth every penny!
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Yes they are good, I have 2 in sli, but l wouldn't overclock.

Also running games in 4k, they are quieter than my old 580's, l did check the temps but it was low, don't remember what, l don't bother now.

I just tend to whack everything up to ultra/max res now, and don't worry about it.
 
SpyderTracks

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Park_Ranger said:
Yes they are good, I have 2 in sli, but l wouldn't overclock.

Also running games in 4k, they are quieter than my old 580's, l did check the temps but it was low, don't remember what, l don't bother now.

I just tend to whack everything up to ultra/max res now, and don't worry about it.
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They are fun, and 4K maxed out with gsync is just epic!
 
Oussebon

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SLI HB gains:

http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/nvidias-hb-sli-bridge-surprising-gains-gtx-1080-sli-testing-inside/

Big gains in some titles, more modest gains in most of those tested. And if you're feeling poor after buying a pair of 1080s:
Some users have been reporting performance gains when using two single bridges with their 1080 SLI setup. To my knowledge this caused issues with the Maxwell based cards but I decided to give it a shot after completing all the testing previously. To my surprise with two flex connectors installed I received the exact same boosts in The Witcher 3, Division and Fallout 4 as I did with the high bandwidth bridge. So it seems if you have two legacy connectors you don’t actually need a high bandwidth bridge.
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Scott

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Oussebon said:
SLI HB gains:

http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/nvidias-hb-sli-bridge-surprising-gains-gtx-1080-sli-testing-inside/

Big gains in some titles, more modest gains in most of those tested. And if you're feeling poor after buying a pair of 1080s:
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Just had a look through that link. Very interesting stuff. Does he contradict himself though, or am I reading this wrong?

As a side note I will address this now as I am sure someone will ask, you can’t simply install two flex bridges to achieve high-bandwidth performance, doing so will break SLI support.
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Oussebon

Oussebon

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Good spot. That sentence is omitted from the video (in which he reads that section out otherwise word for word).

It could be that he's saying in a poorly phrased way that that's what someone will ask rather than that's what will happen. I.e. As a side note I will address this now as I am sure someone will ask, "you can’t simply install two flex bridges to achieve high-bandwidth performance, doing so will break SLI support?" Or perhaps more likely that that's what he was going to say originally and wrote it up, then decided to test it for the hell of it and found out it worked fine. He implies the 2 flex connector test was an afterthought: "To my knowledge this caused issues with the Maxwell based cards but I decided to give it a shot after completing all the testing previously"

Given that he provides a video of him playing FO4 and says it was exactly the same as with the HB bridge, it seems that this sentence is just an editing issue. :)
 
Scott

Scott

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Oussebon said:
Good spot. That sentence is omitted from the video (in which he reads that section out otherwise word for word).

It could be that he's saying in a poorly phrased way that that's what someone will ask rather than that's what will happen. I.e. As a side note I will address this now as I am sure someone will ask, "you can’t simply install two flex bridges to achieve high-bandwidth performance, doing so will break SLI support?" Or perhaps more likely that that's what he was going to say originally and wrote it up, then decided to test it for the hell of it and found out it worked fine. He implies the 2 flex connector test was an afterthought: "To my knowledge this caused issues with the Maxwell based cards but I decided to give it a shot after completing all the testing previously"

Given that he provides a video of him playing FO4 and says it was exactly the same as with the HB bridge, it seems that this sentence is just an editing issue. :)
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I did think it appeared that he had initially wrote the first sentence, but then followed on at a later date with his actual findings after an attempt. It's really confusing the way it's been written though with no apparent pause for the amendment.

Regardless, it's good news :D
 
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Park_Ranger

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JUST got this from Nvidia..............

IT’S TIME FOR SLI

The innovative new NVIDIA® SLI® HB bridge is now available, built exclusively for the GeForce® GTX 1080 and 1070 graphics cards. #GameReady.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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GTX 1060: http://videocardz.com/61753/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-specifications-leaked-faster-than-rx-480

Benchmarks to be taken with a pinch of salt ofc, but the 'power of the gtx 980 for every gamer' is interesting in terms of price. It suggests not going too high above the RX 480 8gb, assuming that's the RX 480 that they're talking about (one must assume that it is and that the point of the tagline is a reference to the RX 480 8gb not quite living up to the hype train). It'll be like a factory overclocked 970, except with a bit of async performance and the special VR black magic Nvidia are promoting.

As a 970 owner it's not exactly rocking my world but it's interesting nevertheless.
 
Oussebon

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There's some speculation it will be as high as £300. One of the staff of a PCS competitor posted as much on their forums. I'm somewhat sceptical (even though I'm sure they know more about selling computers and component costs than most people on the internet). Sure, Nvidia like to go expensive but even if meets Nvidia's leaked claim that it's ~10% faster than an RX 480 8gb, £80 dearer for that just makes no sense. Maybe more like £260.
 
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Wozza63

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Anything over 250 would be bad value for money over the 480 given the supposed performance difference, if those benchmarks are even correct (pinch of salt and that).
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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It would be lower FPS per £, but not necessarily by enough to make it actually bad value. If the RX 480 8gb is £220, but let's say you want an after market one with an 8-pin and close-to-reference-clocks because you're a bit nervous about the PCI-E thing. Call it £230. Then comes the 1060. You avoid the reference cooler because you don't like jet engines. Instead you get one with some random dual fan that's as close to reference (and as cheap) as possible. Call it £270. Let's say the 1060 gets its 10% more performance. That still means the GTX 1060 would have 94% the performance to £ ratio of the RX 480.

It's a bit like saying the R9 390x is bad value because you can get an R9 390 for £40-50 cheaper.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480_CrossFire/19.html

It's more a case of it is what it is, and still in respectable £ per FPS territory, unlike when we get to the GTX 1080, Radeon Pro Duo, etc end of market.

Perhaps that's labouring the point a little, but even if it's strictly speaking not the same level of value it's not necessarily bad value as long as it's still affordable to broadly the same segment. :) £300 would be bad value. And stupid on Nvidia's part.

I imagine the relative performance Nvidia claim is a decent indicator, mainly because Nvidia's claim with the 1070 vs Titan X was pretty legit. While one should rightly take claims of "My GPU is better than their GPU" with a very large pinch of salt, I think comparisons to their own stock are probably a bit more legit. And we know that a 980 is 10% better than an RX 480 at 1080p. Obviously we'd be mad not to wait for benches before treating it as fact.
 
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Oussebon

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It was apparently launched today, or at least specs and prices were released. It's not released/ on sale until 19th July it seems:
http://videocardz.com/61917/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-to-cost-249-299-usd

$250 (i.e. 10% more than an RX 480) for ~8-15% extra performance or whatever it turns out to be in actual benchmarks seems alright. But the Founders edition on a card in this section of the market is just silly.
The slide says the FE is a limited edition, while the FE of 1070 and 1080 aren't supposed to be limited edition, so perhaps its just an early adopters' premium. You can get 1080s for a lot less than FE, but 1070s are all around FE or more. If the 1060 follows the 1070 pricing model (i.e. the MSRP is a myth and they all actually cost the FE price) then it's pretty ridiculous and will be hard to recommend over an RX 480.
 
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