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What version of adrenalin are you on and do you clean install when updating drivers?
AMD issues.
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Can you post a screenshot?
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Oh, interesting, you haven't got afterburner or Precision X installed by any chance have you?
ubuysa
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You know more about this stuff than I, but the 'it works on other systems' is true for just about every driver failure I've ever seen. The dumps all very strongly point at amdfendr.sys and it would be most wise to remove the AMD Crash Detection System from the equation, by disabling it, and then see what happens. Once we've confirmed that it is the crash detection system causing the failures we can move on to look at why.
The dumps show clearly what happened, though I didn't post this detail earlier. The failure happened at amdfenr+0x534D8...
Rich (BB code):
12: kd> k
# Child-SP RetAddr Call Site
00 ffffb688`e9f2e6d0 ffff938c`70c84440 amdfendr+0x534d8
01 ffffb688`e9f2e6d8 00000000`00000001 0xffff938c`70c84440
02 ffffb688`e9f2e6e0 00000000`00000000 0x1
Rich (BB code):
12: kd> .frame /r 0
00 ffffb688`e9f2e6d0 ffff938c`70c84440 amdfendr+0x534d8
rax=ffffe30bcd1e3d60 rbx=ffff938c70c84440 rcx=ffffb688e9f2e720
rdx=ffff938c695f55e0 rsi=0000000000000001 rdi=0000000000000000
rip=fffff804c16c34d8 rsp=ffffb688e9f2e6d0 rbp=ffffb688e9f2e7d0
r8=ffff938c695f55e0 r9=0000000000000000 r10=0000000000000000
r11=ffffb688e9f2e520 r12=0000000000000000 r13=ffff938c559a2d18
r14=00000000a1000005 r15=0000000000000000
iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=0010 ss=0018 ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00040202
amdfendr+0x534d8:
fffff804`c16c34d8 0f1f440000 nop dword ptr [rax+rax]
Rich (BB code):
amdfendr+0x534b0:
fffff804`c16c34b0 b905000000 mov ecx,5
fffff804`c16c34b5 48ff154caefeff call qword ptr [amdfendr+0x3e308 (fffff804`c16ae308)]
fffff804`c16c34bc 0f1f440000 nop dword ptr [rax+rax]
fffff804`c16c34c1 eb60 jmp amdfendr+0x53523 (fffff804`c16c3523)
fffff804`c16c34c3 488b442448 mov rax,qword ptr [rsp+48h]
fffff804`c16c34c8 488d4c2450 lea rcx,[rsp+50h]
fffff804`c16c34cd 48894360 mov qword ptr [rbx+60h],rax
fffff804`c16c34d1 48ff15e8aefeff call qword ptr [amdfendr+0x3e3c0 (fffff804`c16ae3c0)]
fffff804`c16c34d8 0f1f440000 nop dword ptr [rax+rax]
Code:
12: kd> u fffff804`c16ae3c0
amdfendr+0x3e3c0:
fffff804`c16ae3c0 ?? ???
^ Memory access error in 'u fffff804`c16ae3c0'
Code:
12: kd> db fffff804`c16ae3c0
fffff804`c16ae3c0 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??-?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ????????????????
fffff804`c16ae3d0 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??-?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ????????????????
fffff804`c16ae3e0 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??-?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ????????????????
fffff804`c16ae3f0 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??-?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ????????????????
fffff804`c16ae400 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??-?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ????????????????
fffff804`c16ae410 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??-?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ????????????????
fffff804`c16ae420 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??-?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ????????????????
fffff804`c16ae430 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??-?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ????????????????SpyderTracks
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Driver timeouts are really common with Adrenaline, but it’s almost always a software incompatibility.
A workaround if finding the cause is not possible is to install just the display drivers without adrenaline, but fairly confident we can avoid that because despite some dodgy coding, adrenaline is actually very good, far better than the current nvidia control panel (although the new GeForce beta app looks to equal it finally after about 20 years of customers clamoring for it!)
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Hmmm, I have also seen that the recommended PSU for that card (according to Asus own documents) is recommended at 1000w if paired with a Ryzen 9 CPU
That's the other consideration is this could be related to transient spikes, those are an absolute pain to troubleshoot and really require specialist hardware monitoring nodes attached to the system for some concrete proof. But symptoms for those can be from odd program crashes, through to full BSODS or even just power cut out.
Not saying that's any cause, just raising as the PSU is below recommendations.
As you can see here i did change the PSU from a 850w to a 1000w - my bad thought i had added this.
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Ah, brilliant, that's good then, we can rule that out
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Just posting this as is an easy thing to try although is from about a year ago, so may be related to outdated drivers
"I know this is an older topic now, but I was struggling with this same issue with constant crashes.
I tried a lot of tips that people have put in here, and I wanted to try to work out exactly what was causing the crash for me in the Adrenalin software over the standard driver.
For me, it actually turned out to be the Instant Replay function. I can reliably and repeatably replicate the crash with that function on/off. If it is on, I crash in games after 2-10 minutes. With the function off I have never had a driver or GPU crash.
I have spent days trying to work this out, so hopefully for some other people struggling with the 7900 XT(X) cards, this can help you if you still want to keep other functionality of the cards beyond just the base driver install."
There's various things to try in that reddit thread.
"I know this is an older topic now, but I was struggling with this same issue with constant crashes.
I tried a lot of tips that people have put in here, and I wanted to try to work out exactly what was causing the crash for me in the Adrenalin software over the standard driver.
For me, it actually turned out to be the Instant Replay function. I can reliably and repeatably replicate the crash with that function on/off. If it is on, I crash in games after 2-10 minutes. With the function off I have never had a driver or GPU crash.
I have spent days trying to work this out, so hopefully for some other people struggling with the 7900 XT(X) cards, this can help you if you still want to keep other functionality of the cards beyond just the base driver install."
There's various things to try in that reddit thread.
Thank you. However its always been disabled
So far so good on turning off the defender.
Hi all - Really need some help with this - Starting to think something is wrong with the actual PC.
So today - The above happened again - However when i restarted my PC it wouldn't but and i had to load it into Safe mode however it then worked after another reboot - Really starting to become quite concerned especially given how much this cost and how new it is .......
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And then it done it again within 5 minutes of reloading it.
So today - The above happened again - However when i restarted my PC it wouldn't but and i had to load it into Safe mode however it then worked after another reboot - Really starting to become quite concerned especially given how much this cost and how new it is .......
@ubuysa @SpyderTracks
And then it done it again within 5 minutes of reloading it.
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Did you go through the solutions in the previous link?
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So one was to just install the driver without adrenalin, but your screenshot is still from adrenalin?
Oh really sorry I may have missed that then as there’s been quite a bit of info in here
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You'd need to use DDU to fully clean the driver in safe mode, then there are guides on youtube on how to just install the driver without adrenalin
Far from savvy on this but will give it a shot.
Thank you.
Update - ok seems to have worked - Ill keep you posted on what its now like
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