Will the 40 series drop in price

[number45_]

I am holding off on getting a new PC as I've seen various people in other threads recommending waiting until the 50 series are out mainly so people who want the performance are not buying last gen when the new one is around the corner.

I personally don't see the need in getting the latest gen card as I don't play enough games on PC to justify the cost, but I would like a PC that can run the occasional game on my 1440p / 120Hz monitor even if it needs to be lower FPS or settings. From my understanding a 40 series card (although not sure what one) would be better for that than a 30 series and would be more upgradable in future.

I was wondering though, will the 40 series cards drop in price due to them now becoming last gen. Even if it will take a few months, would it be worth waiting to pick up a slightly cheaper 40 series PC. Or will any price drop not be significant enough or will the price just never drop.

I'm going to have to bite the bullet this year and buy a new system as my current PC doesn't support Windows 11. But I don't want to buy something that will be £100 / £200 cheaper in a few months.

 

[TonyCarter]

A 40-series is no more 'upgradable' than a 30-series...as long as the PC has an adequate PSU to sufficiently power it.

As to prices, we'd assume prices will come down...but it's pure guesswork when, by how much, and whether they'll be VFM.

 

[doates]

What about 40 series stock here? How does pcs set there gpu prices for systems? im not impressed with 50 series. price per dollar looks not great and the power effiecency is too similar to 40 series if not worse

 

[TonyCarter]

We don't know...the commenters on here do not work for PCS.

You'd have to contact PCS directly.

 

[doates]

Ah i undestand but there may of been a pattern etc. Ill wait for the 5080 reviews but im thinking a 4080 super will be a better buy. If im wrong some advice would be appretiated.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Ah i undestand but there may of been a pattern etc. Ill wait for the 5080 reviews but im thinking a 4080 super will be a better buy. If im wrong some advice would be appretiated.

4080 Super stopped productiin quite a while ago, so prices are only likely to increase as stocks run out

 

[MrWilson]

GPU Pricing is a contentious topic, and will likely be asked frequently over the next few weeks.

The first two disclaimers are that the vast majority of forum users, including mods, do not work for PCS. Even contacting PCS directly might not help you as PCS, as a system integrator business, will price their GPUs based on the price they can get them in at, and they cannot predict how this will change over time, although with production of many 4000 series cards ending, we may expect an increase.

The second disclaimer is that we are not psychic, and we cannot predict how the GPU market will change with the new generation releasing. If we could predict that we would not be here, we would be off in the stock market becoming very wealthy!

PCS is very good in having an open box policy, where you can upgrade components from your original build yourself without voiding the warranty. This means you have a multitude of options, including using the upgrade feature with PCS or ordering a GPU from PCS, buying from another GPU vendor, or buying from the second hand market.

Value is another contentious topic, and there are multiple aspects to assess with value. Arguably the most important value aspect is raw performance, which is why rasterisation is seen as the main performance metric, and price per frame calculated accordingly, and this is why many people are critical of Nvidia's marketing of the 5000 series using AI based software to suggest significant performance increases.
Feature set is another consideration with value, to consider how much you value improved features such as MFG, DLSS 4.0 etc. If the 4080 and 5080 had the same performance, how much would you pay for the improved feature set?
Power efficiency is another consideration. The 5090 is the new top performer, but it's also more power hungry than the 4090 to get there. Is performance per watt a factor for you to consider?
The second hand market could be a whole debate on its own, but again from a value point, how much of a discount would motivate you to take the plunge on a used GPU? Only you can answer that.

To sum up, everyone's individual circumstance is different and everyone has different priorities when it comes to value. This means there is no one size fits all answer. At the end of the day, it is your money to spend, you can heed the advice of other users or you can go with what feels right for you.

 

[MrWilson]

To use a personal example as a case study, I am looking to upgrade from my PCS system I bought in 2021 with an RTX 3070 card. Using PCS's upgrade system I could get a 4080 Super for around £960, or a 7900XTX for around £820. FWIW this is cheaper than prices I can find listed elsewhere. Next week the 5080 and 5090 release, I can try and get a 5080 FE for £979. There is also the option of looking on the second hand market for a 4080(Super)/90.

For my personal reasons I am looking to try and get a 5080 FE, as this is only costing marginally more than the 4080 Super I could get, and I can see enough value in that price to justify this move. If I was a bit tighter on cash, I might look at the 7900 XTX, or wait for the 9070XT or RTX 5070(ti) to come out in the next few weeks. Some people in my shoes might go for the XTX, or look for something in the second hand market, and those are both valid choices too, and it's their money to make these decisions with.

 

[Martinr36]

To use a personal example as a case study, I am looking to upgrade from my PCS system I bought in 2021 with an RTX 3070 card. Using PCS's upgrade system I could get a 4080 Super for around £960, or a 7900XTX for around £820. FWIW this is cheaper than prices I can find listed elsewhere. Next week the 5080 and 5090 release, I can try and get a 5080 FE for £979. There is also the option of looking on the second hand market for a 4080(Super)/90.

For my personal reasons I am looking to try and get a 5080 FE, as this is only costing marginally more than the 4080 Super I could get, and I can see enough value in that price to justify this move. If I was a bit tighter on cash, I might look at the 7900 XTX, or wait for the 9070XT or RTX 5070(ti) to come out in the next few weeks. Some people in my shoes might go for the XTX, or look for something in the second hand market, and those are both valid choices too, and it's their money to make these decisions with.

And there's me, still using a 2070 super that I picked up second hand, wish I could warrant upgrading it, but alas I need the cash for other things (poor OAP here) 😉😂

 

[SpyderTracks]

And there's me, still using a 2070 super that I picked up second hand, wish I could warrant upgrading it, but alas I need the cash for other things (poor OAP here) 😉😂

I'm still rocking the lowly GTX1080, it goes to show how truly superb these GTX1000 series cards were though, this thing still kills at 1440p

 

[number45_]

Thanks for pointing out this isn't as simple as the way I was looking at it. Feel a bit stupid now tbh as it's kind of obvious

I think instead of spending time waiting for price drops on GPUs I should spend it figuring out what would suit me best, do some research and try to decide the route I want to go. Sometimes getting some input helps you get out the echo chamber of your own head.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Thanks for pointing out this isn't as simple as the way I was looking at it. Feel a bit stupid now tbh as it's kind of obvious

I think instead of spending time waiting for price drops on GPUs I should spend it figuring out what would suit me best, do some research and try to decide the route I want to go. Sometimes getting some input helps you get out the echo chamber of your own head.

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[CoSh]

I'm still rocking the lowly GTX1080, it goes to show how truly superb these GTX1000 series cards were though, this thing still kills at 1440p

I've been playing console for the last however many years but the last system I built still sits here with beauty of an overclocked 970, it's performance was really close to the stock 1070 (although I'd imagine the 1070 would have access to better features). Fantastic cpu in that system also, i5-2500K, comfortably overclocks to 4.4GHz, I had it at 5.0 for a while but didn't see any benefit. I think I'm looking to get a 5080 for new system that should be going together over the next few weeks, can't wait to get back to PC gaming tbh, seeing you mention the 1070 brings it all back!