PC Build for 11yr old to Play Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
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I definitely wouldn't opt for the Strix. As the guys have stated above, you're not getting anything over the regular 3070Ti (well you are, but it's so marginal it's pointless)
If you want to spend money though, then upping the GPU is a fair shout. There are definitely some things to consider though and I genuinely can't give you an answer either way.
On one side, as said, FS2020 will eat whatever you throw at it. You could plug in a 3090 and you would still be limited at frame rate. The better the GPU, the better the experience but you really don't gain that much for your spend.
No offence at all here, I have an 11 year old myself, but they will get nothing other than bragging rights from the 3070Ti over the 3060ti at this age/level. In other games there would be a much larger difference but with the games the kids play (Fortnight, Minecraft, PUBG, etc) it'll be like hitting 400fps instead of 300.... which is pointless anyway.
The end result is, it's a toss up. For an 11 year old I would say it's a step too far. If I was buying it for myself and I knew I would get someting out of it, I would definitely consider it. If the money difference isn't too much of a consideration for you then it's a semi-reasonable purchase. It definitely has its merits but it's expensive.
If you want to spend money though, then upping the GPU is a fair shout. There are definitely some things to consider though and I genuinely can't give you an answer either way.
On one side, as said, FS2020 will eat whatever you throw at it. You could plug in a 3090 and you would still be limited at frame rate. The better the GPU, the better the experience but you really don't gain that much for your spend.
No offence at all here, I have an 11 year old myself, but they will get nothing other than bragging rights from the 3070Ti over the 3060ti at this age/level. In other games there would be a much larger difference but with the games the kids play (Fortnight, Minecraft, PUBG, etc) it'll be like hitting 400fps instead of 300.... which is pointless anyway.
The end result is, it's a toss up. For an 11 year old I would say it's a step too far. If I was buying it for myself and I knew I would get someting out of it, I would definitely consider it. If the money difference isn't too much of a consideration for you then it's a semi-reasonable purchase. It definitely has its merits but it's expensive.
Martinr36
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What you mean non committal............. 😂
3qtrsamericano
Bright Spark
I really need to stop looking! LOL
But in the meantime, here are a few more questions!
1. Switch to a 3080? Thinking of future-proofing
2. My current selection (3060Ti) is now greyed-out (doesn't say pre-order) - would this cause a delay in my build (currently in Pre-Production day 4)?
But in the meantime, here are a few more questions!
1. Switch to a 3080? Thinking of future-proofing
2. My current selection (3060Ti) is now greyed-out (doesn't say pre-order) - would this cause a delay in my build (currently in Pre-Production day 4)?
3080 is bordering on ridiculous now. You can't really future proof the GPU as the technology changes so fast.
If you had the 3060Ti selected your order will be in with the distributor so as long as there aren't too many RMAs for the card then you will be fine for your spot.
Take the money saved, keep it in the bank and get them a nice upgrade next year with the latest gen GPU or etc
If you had the 3060Ti selected your order will be in with the distributor so as long as there aren't too many RMAs for the card then you will be fine for your spot.
Take the money saved, keep it in the bank and get them a nice upgrade next year with the latest gen GPU or etc
3qtrsamericano
Bright Spark
Thanks for setting me straight @Scott. I needed that! 😬3080 is bordering on ridiculous now. You can't really future proof the GPU as the technology changes so fast.
If you had the 3060Ti selected your order will be in with the distributor so as long as there aren't too many RMAs for the card then you will be fine for your spot.
Take the money saved, keep it in the bank and get them a nice upgrade next year with the latest gen GPU or etc
Just re-visiting your spec and checking some parts out. There are some significant upgrades you could make to future proof the system.
Change the CPU to a 5800X, especially with FS2020 in mind as the 8 cores will come into play pretty soon
With the change of the above the X570 Wifi Motherboard is worthwhile
Upgrade to the H115i. It'll help with the temps and do very well with the 5800X
Upgrade to the 1000w RMx, as above with the RAM..... you're going to end up with a monster build in a year or 2.... I can sense it. You will want a bit more juice for the high end GPUs.
Upgrade to 32GB of RAM, I know we all said 16GB but given where you are at now and with me reflecting where the PC will no doubt go in the future it's worthwhile.
Build is below, I couldn't select the 3060Ti so you need to add £100 or so.
Priority wise, the list above from the top down is probably most important to least important.
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING WIFI (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/sR | 1600MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2x 50cm ARGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 16 working days
Price: £1,873.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/SbV6Ad7Rru/
Change the CPU to a 5800X, especially with FS2020 in mind as the 8 cores will come into play pretty soon
With the change of the above the X570 Wifi Motherboard is worthwhile
Upgrade to the H115i. It'll help with the temps and do very well with the 5800X
Upgrade to the 1000w RMx, as above with the RAM..... you're going to end up with a monster build in a year or 2.... I can sense it. You will want a bit more juice for the high end GPUs.
Upgrade to 32GB of RAM, I know we all said 16GB but given where you are at now and with me reflecting where the PC will no doubt go in the future it's worthwhile.
Build is below, I couldn't select the 3060Ti so you need to add £100 or so.
Priority wise, the list above from the top down is probably most important to least important.
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING WIFI (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/sR | 1600MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2x 50cm ARGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 16 working days
Price: £1,873.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/SbV6Ad7Rru/
3qtrsamericano
Bright Spark
3qtrsamericano
Bright Spark
Yes, it’d be absolutely fine 👍Thanks @Scott . Happy with all your suggestions apart from the case - COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE.
Mainly because I don't like the look!
Would my current selection, CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE not suffice taking on board the upgraded cooling?
3qtrsamericano
Bright Spark
Thanks both! @AgentCooper @Scott.
Appreciate all the help on this forum from you two and everyone else.
I am much wiser than I was a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I'm also much more poorer!
Appreciate all the help on this forum from you two and everyone else.
I am much wiser than I was a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I'm also much more poorer!
3qtrsamericano
Bright Spark
Right.....amendments made and submitted.
Also, I am starting a petition for PCS to not allow ANY changes to the original order once it has been submitted! 🤪
Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING WIFI (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/sR | 1600MB/sW)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Also, I am starting a petition for PCS to not allow ANY changes to the original order once it has been submitted! 🤪
Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING WIFI (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3000MB/sR | 1600MB/sW)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
3qtrsamericano
Bright Spark
Thank you @Scott. Couldn't have done it without all your help. I definitely ended up spending way more than I planned but at least I'm getting a system that I'm happy with and not some off-the-shelf PC.I'm genuinely jealous of that build
That said, my kid better play the heck out of MSFS! I already told him that's his next two Birthday's and Christmases sorted!
Martinr36
MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Oh dear you didn't get a bout of ABS (Amendment Button Syndrome) did you, that can be a terrible affliction
3qtrsamericano
Bright Spark
I'm also about to get a bout of domestic battery once the wife finds out out how much I've spent! And that's before the £300 on a G5 monitor. 😬Oh dear you didn't get a bout of ABS (Amendment Button Syndrome) did you, that can be a terrible affliction
Martinr36
MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
I'm "lucky" I don't have one of those to worry about, I just tell my 3 "grown up"
daughters that I'm enjoying spending their inheritance & they can argue over the cycling & tech stuff when I'm gone.