New gaming pc for 4k monitor

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Bigdave17

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Haven't had a gaming pc since i5 sandy bridge era
This is pretty much max budget

Anything worth swapping out any errors etc
Input and advice appreciated
CORSAIR SPEC-04 MID TOWER GAMING CASE - BLACK/RED
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Six Core Processor i5-8600K (3.6GHz) 9MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF Z370-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
11GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Hard Disk
250GB WD Blue™ 3D NAND 2.5" SSD, (upto 550MB/sR | 525MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Super Quiet Titan DragonFly Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,523.00
 
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Bigdave17

Member
Hi there
Around 1500
Does the above look ok?

Monitor wise I've budgeted so far 350 not included in the pc budget above
I have a Samsung 4k TV for now. Ks7000

Cheers bud
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
The i5 8600k, once you take into account the CPUs' turbo boosts, only 300MHz faster than the i5 8400 but costs £60 more.

The GTX 1080 ti Strix is even worse value, being almost £100 more for hardly any extra performance at all. In fact if PCS used a GTX 1080 ti Zotac Mini or Zotac AMP, which are often the cheapest ones available, they would both be clocked higher than the Strix.

I would suggest 16gb RAM especially if playing at such a high resolution.

The WD Blue SSD is not as good as a PM961 but is hardly any cheaper, so just go with a PM961.

I'd also suggest the Game Max Falcon case as it has 2 preinstalled fans and a few extra features.

Despite how expensive RAM is atm that ends up as a net saving of about £50, which I would very strongly suggest you invest into a monitor. For 4k gaiming you are going to benefit a lot from a Gsync montior.

Gsync makes your monitor's refresh rate match the GPU' framerate output. At 4k, even a 1080 ti sin't going to be able to maintain 60fps at very high settings in a lot of titles, which will give you quite a stuttery gaming experience. Gsync helps eliminate that problem.

There are 4k gsync monitors like the Acer XB271HK and XB281HK for about £500. Often you can find the XB281HK on sale for £400 (the price seems to get regularly slashed down to that for periodic sales).


Case
GAME MAX FALCON BLACK GAMING CASE (RGB LED)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Six Core Processor i5-8400 (2.8GHz) 9MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z370-P: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
256GB SAMSUNG PM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 2800MB/R, 1100MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Super Quiet Titan DragonFly Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,480.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/WCMmpebaRs/
 
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Bigdave17

Member
Hi

Thanks for that would u say I'm better with the ti or putting more in for two 1080 ? GPU seem to have gone mad money
I had two 7950 when I had last pc were 350 each and we're second best card at the time lol 1440p hazro monitor which was cheap lol where has everything gone so dear
For pc monitor keyboard and mouse I was hoping all in 1900 2000 area

Appreciate u taking the time to do that build bud thank you
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Only higher end motherboards support SLI (i.e. two Nvidia GPUs linked together). The cheapest one that does is £80 more than the Z370-P

You'll also want a larger PSU which is at least another £10.

Two GTX 1080s are £300 more expensive than a single GTX 1080 ti. In many games they would offer more performance, however some games scale poorly with SLI and in those you'd have much worse performance than with a single 1080 ti. And even with GTX 1080 SLI, you'd still probably want a gsync monitor because of period dips below 60fps.

So I don't think GTX 1080 SLI is the right answer here.

£1900-2000 is extremely ambitious for a full 4k gaming system including the tower, the monitor, and the peripherals. Many people would spend about that much just on the tower, with some people spending even more for GTX 1080 ti SLI.

I think your best bet is for something like the system above, plus a 4k gsync monitor for ~£500 (or £400 if you can get it on sale).

If it's not urgent, you could wait and see whether the forthcoming CPU and mobo releases by AMD and Intel give any better value options, and whether Nvidia does indeed launch Geforce Volta in late March.
 
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Bigdave17

Member
Cheers bud
It's not mega urgent but I'd like one needed a new laptop for work which then became hmmm maybe a gaming laptop which then became sod it and get a gaming pc lol slippery slope
 
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Bigdave17

Member
Would a high refresh rate 1440 monitor be a better option

Would the end result be just like a console at that resolution
I.e Xbox 1x one a4k tv
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Would a high refresh rate 1440 monitor be a better option
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A 1440p 144hz gsync monitor is about as expensive as 4k gsync ones, but you could plausibly use a GTX 1080 (non-ti) for 1440p.

That would also open up the Ultima X01 spec here: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/configure-review/238/
which is a spec worth about £1700 but with a discounted £1479 price tag. It has an i7 8700k, 16gb fast RAM, GTX 1080, gold-rated PSU, H100i cooler, and various other goodies.

Would the end result be just like a console at that resolution
I.e Xbox 1x one a4k tv
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I'm not entirely sure what you're asking and since I don't play on console or on a high refresh rate monitor I'm probably not the best person to answer that ;)

The experience would be quite different though I expect. Gameplay would probably be much more fluid thanks to high refresh and gsync, and you'd be able to take advantage of higher settings.
 
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Lockstar

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At this point in time, 1440p 144Hz is meant to be a better option, as 4K is a pretty new technology incapable of high framerates. If going from 1080p to 1440p, it's still a big jump up (about 1.6 million pixels more detail!) and I highly recommend 144Hz as 144fps is extremely more achievable in 1440p and plays stunningly.
 
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Bigdave17

Member
Lockstar said:
At this point in time, 1440p 144Hz is meant to be a better option, as 4K is a pretty new technology incapable of high framerates. If going from 1080p to 1440p, it's still a big jump up (about 1.6 million pixels more detail!) and I highly recommend 144Hz as 144fps is extremely more achievable in 1440p and plays stunningly.
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Yes I was also considering a wide screen
I had a 1440p years back with bf3 and it was lovely to look at and 27" was a decent size however I was wondering if games would look better in this Vs a console and 4k TV

I know that a few ps4 pro games run at 1440p now so would I just be paying more for a similar result looks/performance wise or am I comparing apples to oranges.

The difference when I last gamed was a PS3 bf3 Vs ultra 1440p bf3 with decent FPS (crossfire GPUs) so was a huge difference
Is this still the case??
 
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Lockstar

Silver Level Poster
For a much better user experience that will definitely set you apart from console gamers is a 144hz monitor with NVIDIA's G-Sync tech. This is basically like V-Sync (locks the framerate of the game with the refresh rate of your monitor to stop screen tear), but deals with potential drops in frames better and is much smoother, especially when playing at high framerates. 144hz will also make the experience smooth and fresh, this is the best option in the PC market currently.

Which monitor are you currently using or are you going to buy a new one?
 
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Bigdave17

Member
Lockstar said:
For a much better user experience that will definitely set you apart from console gamers is a 144hz monitor with NVIDIA's G-Sync tech. This is basically like V-Sync (locks the framerate of the game with the refresh rate of your monitor to stop screen tear), but deals with potential drops in frames better and is much smoother, especially when playing at high framerates. 144hz will also make the experience smooth and fresh, this is the best option in the PC market currently.

Which monitor are you currently using or are you going to buy a new one?
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Hi
Looking at buying a new monitor around 400-500

Was thinking maybe the Ultima x01 build and AG271QX monitor
I don't require windows so it makes the pc 1389 and monitor is 414 I believe.
But I'm open to suggestion buddy
 
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Lockstar

Silver Level Poster
I'll have a look for some monitors for you, it's no problem. So you want 144hz, G-Sync, and at 1440p. Anything else?
 
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Bigdave17

Member
I think that's the winner now I did want 4k but the GPU needed bombs my budget somewhat

Are the 3440x1440 p monitors any good there really wide screen if that makes sense
 
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Lockstar

Silver Level Poster
This 1440p monitor is pretty good, but for outside your budget by a bit.

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Bigdave17

Member
Does only gsync work I see some say freesync is that amd only
Looks a lovely monitor atm I have a max 520 for screen I've set my limit atm as it started of I was buying a 1000 laptop now I'm on 1900 plus pc and screen haha.
 
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