Ionico 17 review
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Macco26
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Yeah, for comparable results I've used very high settings, as Bob of All Trades uses the same for any machine he reviews. So it's apple to apple vs anything the market offers. In the Cards of my video you can find some 5800H, 5900HS and some old 2070 Super machines video links reviewed by him.
Guys, can you please help me? I really need some answer about throttlestop!!!
1) if I want to reset to original values i only need to delete (or rename) the .INI file and do a complete shutdown (shift+shutdown), right?
2) it's safe lowering turbo ratio limits and offset voltage together? For example:
Cpu core and cpu cache: -96.5
1core:49 2core:48 3core:47 4core:46 5core:45 6core:44 7core:43 8core:41
I know i loose a little bit in performance but I will obtain lower temperatures, right?
i mostly play heavy GPU games so it's not a big problem
Thanks in advance!!!!
1) if I want to reset to original values i only need to delete (or rename) the .INI file and do a complete shutdown (shift+shutdown), right?
2) it's safe lowering turbo ratio limits and offset voltage together? For example:
Cpu core and cpu cache: -96.5
1core:49 2core:48 3core:47 4core:46 5core:45 6core:44 7core:43 8core:41
I know i loose a little bit in performance but I will obtain lower temperatures, right?
i mostly play heavy GPU games so it's not a big problem
Thanks in advance!!!!
Macco26
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1) yes
2) yes, but personally I am not touching TS frequency ratios. Instead I am using PL1/PL2 profiles in the CC to do the same. As thermal heat is proportional to wattage, I decide the max wattage of the CPU from there and let Intel decide which frequency / number of cores to use under a given wattage envelope. I trust Intel's engineers more than me.
The only moment I might use your criteria is for battery operation (I haven't yet) as CC is totally blocked under battery operation, so if you want even less power, you might to fiddle with those frequencies. Don't know if higher frequency are allowed in that scenario, though.
2) yes, but personally I am not touching TS frequency ratios. Instead I am using PL1/PL2 profiles in the CC to do the same. As thermal heat is proportional to wattage, I decide the max wattage of the CPU from there and let Intel decide which frequency / number of cores to use under a given wattage envelope. I trust Intel's engineers more than me.
The only moment I might use your criteria is for battery operation (I haven't yet) as CC is totally blocked under battery operation, so if you want even less power, you might to fiddle with those frequencies. Don't know if higher frequency are allowed in that scenario, though.
Macco26
Expert
Yes you should ask PCS for the 1.09 BIOS or later.
About temperature you should learn how to undervolt the laptop and set up the Power Limits of the CPU whenever a game does not need more than 45W, preferably 35W. To do so, you might check my dedicated video about that for my Ionico as a start.
About temperature you should learn how to undervolt the laptop and set up the Power Limits of the CPU whenever a game does not need more than 45W, preferably 35W. To do so, you might check my dedicated video about that for my Ionico as a start.
williamrichier352
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hello you too your ionico is having trouble switching from igpu to nvidia gpu in hybrid mode? I have the impression that as soon as the nvidia gpu activates it has trouble coming back to the igpu when I have finished a game ..
Another question I noticed that the pc tends to make micro voltage noise is it normal?
i had a clevo p775tm1 before it never made that kind of noise.
Another question I noticed that the pc tends to make micro voltage noise is it normal?
i had a clevo p775tm1 before it never made that kind of noise.
williamrichier352
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hi i noticed a problem with a competitor control center, i did several opengl cinebench r15 tests and saw that if i turned off gpu boost and gpu watt, there was no difference. if I activate it every 2 at 125w + 15w nothing changes either, I almost always get the same score with a difference of 3fps.
i think it bug? I will uninstall the control center
i think it bug? I will uninstall the control center
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Macco26
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When you intend "switching" you mean with Nvidia Optimus then? It might happen than some app continues to require Nvidia thus it can't stop. It is NOT happening to me, but this is a software issue others may suffer. It might be the Control Center (my 3.23.6 does not, for instance), it might be anything else. If the Nvidia Control Panel you should be able to activate a tray icon where it says what is turning on the Nvidia dGPU under Optimus. Then in the Windows settings you should be able to allocate which GPU to which app, in case you find who's the problem.
Regarding TGP, when benchmarking you should keep HWInfo64 or MSI Afterburner logging your GPU wattage. That's the only way to understand how much power they are using. For instance Dynamic Boost isn't activated if CPU is at 45W or beyond, so it depends on the type of your benchmark, really.
Mine works perfectly. You launch FurMark (heavily GPU bound) and see up to 140W of GPU power. If FPS does not change much for you it might be a good solution to resort in the MUX the machine offers. Sometimes, no matter how well the dGPU is doing, the iGPU bottlenecks the heck of it. You can't do anything but switching the MUX on and obtain your FPS increase.
PS: I don't recommend to remove the Control Center. You'll get hardcoded CPU Power Limit and who knows which GPU TDP/DB without.. But feel free to experiement without.
Regarding TGP, when benchmarking you should keep HWInfo64 or MSI Afterburner logging your GPU wattage. That's the only way to understand how much power they are using. For instance Dynamic Boost isn't activated if CPU is at 45W or beyond, so it depends on the type of your benchmark, really.
Mine works perfectly. You launch FurMark (heavily GPU bound) and see up to 140W of GPU power. If FPS does not change much for you it might be a good solution to resort in the MUX the machine offers. Sometimes, no matter how well the dGPU is doing, the iGPU bottlenecks the heck of it. You can't do anything but switching the MUX on and obtain your FPS increase.
PS: I don't recommend to remove the Control Center. You'll get hardcoded CPU Power Limit and who knows which GPU TDP/DB without.. But feel free to experiement without.
williamrichier352
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The problem with the control center is precisely with the MuX activated, I no longer activate the optimus because I am looking for the problem that is slowing me down.
this morning i removed the nvidia driver with DDU and installed the new version i was surprised by doing a cinebench r15 test i did 181fps in opengl! better than mn pc tour 2080ti
after 3 openGl tests, the fps drop to stagnate at 140fps I don't understand ...
this morning i removed the nvidia driver with DDU and installed the new version i was surprised by doing a cinebench r15 test i did 181fps in opengl! better than mn pc tour 2080ti
after 3 openGl tests, the fps drop to stagnate at 140fps I don't understand ...
williamrichier352
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Hello ionico source cpu heat problem found, i think this is global ..
williamrichier352
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I changed the thermal paste this weekend. I put on the GPU of the grizzly cryonaut in green, and of the liquid metal grizzly in red, I had the bad surprise to see that the radiator does not touch the cpu as you can see in the photo, no trace of plating on the cpu is a big problem. if it is not plated it is necessarily heated!