First PC

Andy78

Active member
Greetings.
Looking ahead to purchase a PC for me and mainly my son, who is growing up fast.
  • Gaming only PC.​
  • Monitor Samsung 4k 60HZ. Was for his X1X ( will update monitor to a 1080p 144hz for this build only)​
  • Games like Hunt Showdown <Priority. And other games down the line.​
  • Important. Case and motherboard are my two main priorities here to easily upgrade if need be down the line. This will be his new home...... per say!​
  • GPU, I have just went with an entry level. Fps is important of course playing on PC's but i don't expect this GPU to hit the high 100's. Nor play games in the highest settings either. Just enough to justify visuals and frames. Hence the upgrade down the line. Big question is, Can i purchase a higher grade Nvidia or amd gpu down the line with this Motherboard?​
  • What options do I have in regards to upgrades if all parts are purchased from PCS? Can I purchase and upgrade my GPU independently? Does this effect my warranty?​

Don't ask about my budget as I don't want to go cheap nor expensive. There is flexibility.

Many thanks for you expert advice.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,269.00 including VAT and Delivery
 

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Greetings.
Looking ahead to purchase a PC for me and mainly my son, who is growing up fast.
  • Gaming only PC.​
  • Monitor Samsung 4k 60HZ. Was for his X1X ( will update monitor to a 1080p 144hz for this build only)​
  • Games like Hunt Showdown <Priority. And other games down the line.​
  • Important. Case and motherboard are my two main priorities here to easily upgrade if need be down the line. This will be his new home...... per say!​
  • GPU, I have just went with an entry level. Fps is important of course playing on PC's but i don't expect this GPU to hit the high 100's. Nor play games in the highest settings either. Just enough to justify visuals and frames. Hence the upgrade down the line. Big question is, Can i purchase a higher grade Nvidia or amd gpu down the line with this Motherboard?​
  • What options do I have in regards to upgrades if all parts are purchased from PCS? Can I purchase and upgrade my GPU independently? Does this effect my warranty?​

Don't ask about my budget as I don't want to go cheap nor expensive. There is flexibility.

Many thanks for you expert advice.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,269.00 including VAT and Delivery
How much flexibility is there in the budget above this quote which could do with a few tweaks that won't make it cheaper & can you post the link for the above
 

Andy78

Active member

Citrus_9

Expert
Thank you.
Here is the link;
We need a link to your specs, not to the configurator :) When I open your link, it shows me not your, but just the default specs. Look up the sticky thread to see how to post specs.

 
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Andy78

Active member
We need a link to your specs, not to the configurator :) When I open your link, it shows me not your links, but just the default specs. Look up the sticky thread to see how to post specs.

Sorry about that chief
 

AgentCooper

At Least I Have Chicken
Moderator
The build is fundamentally sound, good case, great CPU, a motherboard that will likely support at least one more generation of processor. The GPU will do mid-level 1080p, so if you adjust your monitor resolution you’re fine there.

Suggested changes would probably be to get a beefy PSU, the RMx 850w will go a long way to ensuring system longevity. The CoolerMaster MasterLiquid 240 would be a solid choice and a huge improvement on the stock cooler, allowing the CPU to reach optimum boost levels. And the storage is in a place where whilst okay, it could be tweaked... but we definitely would need to know your budget to make some adjustments on that front 👍
 

Citrus_9

Expert
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,363.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/gGazZYTU7E/
 

Andy78

Active member
The build is fundamentally sound, good case, great CPU, a motherboard that will likely support at least one more generation of processor. The GPU will do mid-level 1080p, so if you adjust your monitor resolution you’re fine there.

Suggested changes would probably be to get a beefy PSU, the RMx 850w will go a long way to ensuring system longevity. The CoolerMaster MasterLiquid 240 would be a solid choice and a huge improvement on the stock cooler, allowing the CPU to reach optimum boost levels. And the storage is in a place where whilst okay, it could be tweaked... but we definitely would need to know your budget to make some adjustments on that front 👍
Budget could be increased to allow for changes.
In regards to CPU, I am not keen on boost or overclocking. I used to like the CPU's allow what its meant to do (out the box) without degrading it by the overclocking. Could I be wrong?

However my budget could be extended slightly for psu if needed. But I would upgrade the PSU if required for a higher end GPU down the line. Which would not be very soon, as I would need to purchase a new monitor.

Whats the difference with the PSU TXm and the RMx?
 

AgentCooper

At Least I Have Chicken
Moderator
Budget could be increased to allow for changes.
In regards to CPU, I am not keen on boost or overclocking. I used to like the CPU's allow what its meant to do (out the box) without degrading it by the overclocking. Could I be wrong?

However my budget could be extended slightly for psu if needed. But I would upgrade the PSU if required for a higher end GPU down the line. Which would not be very soon, as I would need to purchase a new monitor.
The CPU has a built in frequency boost which acts as an automatic overclock. The more you’re able to keep the temperatures low, the better performance you’ll get. I know @NoddyPirate uses the stock cooler on the same CPU and has done a fair bit of experimentation, might be good to hear his thoughts.

As for the PSU, it’s totally your choice but it works out cheaper in the long run to get a good quality unit now, it’ll last the entire lifespan of the build. Plus it’s easier to just add and remove cables when you decide to upgrade your GPU or add an additional storage drive, rather than potentially doing a giant rewire job if you go lower end on the PSU now and have to replace the entire thing at a later date 🙂👍
 

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
The CPU has a built in frequency boost which acts as an automatic overclock. The more you’re able to keep the temperatures low, the better performance you’ll get. I know @NoddyPirate uses the stock cooler on the same CPU and has done a fair bit of experimentation, might be good to hear his thoughts.

As for the PSU, it’s totally your choice but it works out cheaper in the long run to get a good quality unit now, it’ll last the entire lifespan of the build. Plus it’s easier to just add and remove cables when you decide to upgrade your GPU or add an additional storage drive, rather than potentially doing a giant rewire job if you go lower end on the PSU now and have to replace the entire thing at a later date 🙂👍
I don't have the stock cooler @AgentCooper, but do have an 'upgrade' to a lower end tower air cooler with better cooling capability.

@Andy78 - without any overclocking or anything like that - the new Gen Ryzen CPU's naturally boost according to the load they are under, up to a max limit of power consumed. But part of that process is also temperature dependent. So even with a completely stock setup and without any tweaking, the cooler the CPU is kept, the higher, and longer, it will boost.

Although mostly relevant to occassions when more than just a single core is being used - from all I can tell and have read/seen, the difference could be around 200-250 MHz improvement over the stock cooler with a well performing AIO for a totally stock all core boost (i.e. from 4.2 GHz or less up to about 4.425 GHz or more ). Temperatures somewhere around 80 degrees with the stock cooler versus less than 60 degrees with the AIO.

Like us eternally optimistic Irish like to say about the weather - cooler is always better. :)
 

AgentCooper

At Least I Have Chicken
Moderator
I don't have the stock cooler @AgentCooper, but do have an 'upgrade' to a lower end tower air cooler with better cooling capability.
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Andy78

Active member
I don't have the stock cooler @AgentCooper, but do have an 'upgrade' to a lower end tower air cooler with better cooling capability.

@Andy78 - without any overclocking or anything like that - the new Gen Ryzen CPU's naturally boost according to the load they are under, up to a max limit of power consumed. But part of that process is also temperature dependent. So even with a completely stock setup and without any tweaking, the cooler the CPU is kept, the higher, and longer, it will boost.

Although mostly relevant to occassions when more than just a single core is being used - from all I can tell and have read/seen, the difference could be around 200-250 MHz improvement over the stock cooler with a well performing AIO for a totally stock all core boost (i.e. from 4.2 GHz or less up to about 4.425 GHz or more ). Temperatures somewhere around 80 degrees with the stock cooler versus less than 60 degrees with the AIO.

Like us eternally optimistic Irish like to say about the weather - cooler is always better. :)
I know the Irish well. Im jus across the water from you, and agree with you lol.

In regards to the CPUghz is that why the CPU I have selected is advertised as 3.7-4.6?

As for A CPU Cooler and taking in your experience, which cooler would provide good cooling? I see you use the PCS Frostflow 100 v3?
 

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
I know the Irish well. Im jus across the water from you, and agree with you lol.
I spent a year in Manchester in a heatwave. My memory of the weather in that direction is tropical. Is that not correct?

In regards to the CPUghz is that why the CPU I have selected is advertised as 3.7-4.6?
That question has about 20 words but would need at least that many paragraphs to explain properly! :D Suffice to say that you will see 4.6 GHz (actually more like 4.65) for single core loads, then that will slowly reduce to the 4.2-4.4 ish range I mentioned above as the rest of the cores load up fully.

3.7 GHz is the base clock which really would only apply when the stock boosting behaviour above is disabled.

I think that is as neat a summary as I can manage!

As for A CPU Cooler and taking in your experience, which cooler would provide good cooling? I see you use the PCS Frostflow 100 v3?
Mine is effectively an unbranded generic cooler. While I have developed a deep and meaningful relationship with it, the experience of almost everyone else here has me prepared that it may dump me and walk away at any moment. Think of it like a cheap date - fun and inexpensive, but never really expected to be in it for the long term.

@AgentCooper 's recommendation above - the CoolerMaster MasterLiquid 240 - would be a great choice I think.

Again, the stock cooler will work perfectly fine and nothing bad would happen with it. But the AIO would work a lot better.
 

Andy78

Active member
What do you think?
I have changed my storage, would this be okay?

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

 

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
What do you think?
I have changed my storage, would this be okay?

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

To my untrained system building eye that's looks very nice. (y)
 

AgentCooper

At Least I Have Chicken
Moderator
The only thing I’d change now is the storage, if you can afford to go with a 500GB Samsung 970/980 as the primary drive coupled with a 1TB PCS M.2, it’s a winning combination for an ultra fast boot drive and speedy storage. If that’s stretching it a little, I’d go for a double PCS M.2 combo of 512GB/1TB.

The Intel drives have improved but still have a lower write endurance so I’d steer clear of having one of those in your system 🙂
 

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
The only thing I’d change now is the storage, if you can afford to go with a 500GB Samsung 970/980 as the primary drive coupled with a 1TB PCS M.2, it’s a winning combination for an ultra fast boot drive and speedy storage. If that’s stretching it a little, I’d go for a double PCS M.2 combo of 512GB/1TB.

The Intel drives have improved but still have a lower write endurance so I’d steer clear of having one of those in your system 🙂
Flip! Missed the Intel M.2.

See? This is why I leave it to you guys!! 🙂
 

Bigfoot

Grand Master
The Intel 670p isn’t too bad for write endurance at 380 TBW, compared to 200 TBW for the Corsair MP400 1TB that is often recommended here and 600 TBS for the Samsung 980 Pro. I don’t know what the endurance figures are for the PCS 1TB m.2.
 

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
The Intel 670p isn’t too bad for write endurance at 380 TBW, compared to 200 TBW for the Corsair MP400 1TB that is often recommended here and 600 TBS for the Samsung 980 Pro. I don’t know what the endurance figures are for the PCS 1TB m.2.
Brill info @Bigfoot - I have often wondered about the TBW for the PCS drive - I looked up the brand previously and there was a thread here which mentioned which company made them too - I'll look it up again and see what info I can find...... (y)
 
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