Do I need more fans for this ?

[Charlie 7474]

I ordered my PC but now I’m worried I don’t have enough fans and it will overheat, can anyone offer some advice ?

Case
PCS P209 ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-10700KF (3.8GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
GIGABYTE B560 HD3 (rev. 1.0) : LGA1200, DDR4, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2700MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]

 

[Aza]

Im worried that you will...but also that adding more fans is more of a sticky plaster as there are some other issues going on.

Have you just ordered it? Or is it being built already?

 

[Charlie 7474]

Im worried that you will...but also that adding more fans is more of a sticky plaster as there are some other issues going on.

Have you just ordered it? Or is it being built already?

I ordered it yesterday, my friend helped me configure it so I sorta trusted his knowledge. Is it not very good ?

 

[Aza]

Whats your budget, what are you going to be using it for and what monitor are you hooking it up to?
My honest, best advice is to cancel the order and let the people here spec something up for you, i'm pretty much 100% sure a spec can be put together than will much, much better than what you have above, and what you have above is not going to last you (i'm sorry).

Theres also a real chance you could even save money doing it... did you pay finance or buy outright?

Im sorry mate, I dont mean to be the bearer of bad news. But I genuinely flinched at some of the bits and i'm really worried about that case having real thermal problems.

 

[Charlie 7474]

My budget is around £1500, damn is it really that bad ? I can try and cancel it. I suppose it’s better I actually asked than found out the hard way. What is so bad about it though ? I
Trusted my friend with this one

 

[Aza]

For £1500.... yes.

 

[Aza]

Ok, whats your monitor/planned monitor...assuming its 1080p if you're going with a 3060 GPU?
Guessing gaming too... can you tell me more about what kind of games you play? Other uses too, streaming, content creation that kinda thing.

 

[MrWilson]

My budget is around £1500, damn is it really that bad ? I can try and cancel it. I suppose it’s better I actually asked than found out the hard way. What is so bad about it though ? I
Trusted my friend with this one

The CPU is nearly 3 years old and 2 generations out of date, the case is very budget and will toast your components.
What we can do is spec you a new build which you can save as a quote, and then ring up PCS and swap it across without losing your queue place, although with it only being ordered yesterday you could cancel without any major difference.

 

[Aza]

The CPU is nearly 3 years old and 2 generations out of date, the case is very budget and will toast your components.
What we can do is spec you a new build which you can save as a quote, and then ring up PCS and swap it across without losing your queue place, although with it only being ordered yesterday you could cancel without any major difference.

MrWilson has put it far more gently that I have.
But theres a LOT that can be done, even if you look at using older generation components to save on cash, there are far better choices that will still come in on budget but give you far better performance.

And yes, that case is going to roast everything, especially with an Intel chip and the cooler youve chosen.

 

[Charlie 7474]

Ok, whats your monitor/planned monitor...assuming its 1080p if you're going with a 3060 GPU?
Guessing gaming too... can you tell me more about what kind of games you play? Other uses too, streaming, content creation that kinda thing.

My monitor is only 1080p, I’m not too bothered about 4K, and yeah it’s for gaming I was gonna play a wide range of games. But I guess mainly RTS games. No content creation or steaming.

 

[Charlie 7474]

The CPU is nearly 3 years old and 2 generations out of date, the case is very budget and will toast your components.
What we can do is spec you a new build which you can save as a quote, and then ring up PCS and swap it across without losing your queue place, although with it only being ordered yesterday you could cancel without any major difference.

Ah damn I read the CPU was supposed to be good and my mate recommended it. I’ll probably just cancel it if it’s not gonna make a big difference. I’m in no rush to get it and I wanna make sure it’s correct.

 

[Charlie 7474]

Thanks guys though honestly, you have saved me from a big disaster it seems.

 

[Aza]

This ISNT a recommend spec, but just to give an idea of budget, and we pretend its 12 months ago so ignore current release stuff
This would blow the build out of the water and still come in on under £1500

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2200 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £1,489.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/vMBYwQYwSF/

But give some examples of what you want to do on it, often a few game examples can help give some direction...
I promise a spec can be put together that will do wonders for you

 

[Charlie 7474]

This ISNT a recommend spec, but just to give an idea of budget, and we pretend its 12 months ago so ignore current release stuff
This would blow the build out of the water and still come in on under £1500

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2200 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £1,489.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/vMBYwQYwSF/

But give some examples of what you want to do on it, often a few game examples can help give some direction...
I promise a spec can be put together that will do wonders for you

I will definitely be playing new Total war games, and other new RTS games. I’d also like to play red dead redemption 2 as well. No streaming or anything else, just for gaming and my University work but that’s only on Microsoft word so I’m not sure that matters at all.

 

[Aza]

Also, if you have an old PC you are getting rid of, you can save yourself £120 and transfer your licence rather than buying a new one.
That can then go towards maybe a TUF 550 or 570 motherboard and improving the storage choices, either for a samsung 980 as the operating drive or a better second drive for games etc...

Theres lots of tweeking options.

You might even be able to put a Intel 12th gen build together... but that is something for the experts to play with i'm not hugely familiar with current prices etc so i'm not going to get the absolute best out of your money.

 

[Aza]

(Maybe @MrWilson can help, if you ask him nicely.... he's pretty good at this stuff)

 

[Charlie 7474]

Also, if you have an old PC you are getting rid of, you can save yourself £120 and transfer your licence rather than buying a new one.
That can then go towards maybe a TUF 550 or 570 motherboard and improving the storage choices, either for a samsung 980 as the operating drive or a better second drive for games etc...

Theres lots of tweeking options.

You might even be able to put a Intel 12th gen build together... but that is something for the experts to play with i'm not hugely familiar with current prices etc so i'm not going to get the absolute best out of your money.

Ah ok I do have an old PC but not sure what’s happening to it I’ll take a look into that.

I really am a lot more clueless than I thought with all this lol, I took my mates advice on parts but also researched them myself. It seemed that it was a decent build except for the fans problem. I guess I’ll research it a bit more and maybe post the specs before buying this time.

 

[Charlie 7474]

Also, if you have an old PC you are getting rid of, you can save yourself £120 and transfer your licence rather than buying a new one.
That can then go towards maybe a TUF 550 or 570 motherboard and improving the storage choices, either for a samsung 980 as the operating drive or a better second drive for games etc...

Theres lots of tweeking options.

You might even be able to put a Intel 12th gen build together... but that is something for the experts to play with i'm not hugely familiar with current prices etc so i'm not going to get the absolute best out of your money.

So a new motherboard, Case and CPU are the main things I need ?

 

[Aza]

Generally speaking, the PCS "own brand" cases are to be avoided.
Careful with the coolers, the one you chose is pretty old... dont touch the hydro series.
Depending on what CPU you have, theres different options for coolers that will happily do the job, higher spec the CPU the better the cooler you will want, and with Intel, high spec coolers are always a wise choice, they produce a lot of heat.

10th Gen Intel are easily beaten by their AMD counterparts... its 12th Gen Intel that took the lead back, so bear that in mind if taking an older CPU

When thinking of PSU, you want headroom on it, it will allow for future GPU upgrades without having to replace, you also dont want to run a PSU at full load...it shortens its lifespan

Gaming in general is a 16Gb RAM affair, unless you are looking at stuff like MSFS2020 which actually uses the extra RAM

Dont fall to hard for "branded" motherboards like Gigabyte, the TUF series from Asus are very good, and normally much lighter on the wallet

If you get a Corsair cooler, you wont need the arctic paste, the stuff it comes with is equally good and youll save a tenner and avoid the risk of a bad paste job (which youll have a higher chance with as they have to scrape the old paste off and manually reapply)

Intel M2 Drives werent as good as some of the others, and its worth taking a 500Gb operating system drive and separate drive for games, even the PCS own ones are actually pretty reliable. Go with a good 500GB one thats fast for the operating system, and then you can take something like a 1TB one thats lower spec for games, they wont really make use of the speed anything like what the OS would.

Hope thats helpful.

 

[Aza]

So a new motherboard, Case and CPU are the main things I need ?

If you arent in a rush, i'd cancel the order you put in and give it a day or two to get some replies off the proper regulars here and the mods.
They will be able to give you the best results, where i'm a bit out of the loop and not familiar with the current prices/latest release kit.

But you can quite safely cancel the order you put in, trust me, you dont want it.
(Or indeed, what MrWilson suggested and build a spec as a quote and get in touch with customer services...but you'll need to do it before they start building or theres extra cost......personally, lead times are good atm, i'd cancel and start fresh)