Configuration for high end Video Editing and Game Playing (Flight Sim 2020)

[brijon]

Hello

I am looking for a system that will cope with video editing using Adobe CS Premiere. This will consist of converting hundreds of Hi8 Analogue tapes to digital format. Then editing and saving to DVD/Blu-ray.

I am also wanting to seriously play MS Flight Simulator and X-Plane 11 at the highest resolution with the smoothest of graphics.

I have been exploring configurations to incorporate my wish list of:

* Processor and mother board able to meet the demands of both video editing and flight simulation.​

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* A graphics card to give the smoothest simulation at the highest graphic setting for the flight simulation.​

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* Case to allow the fitting of an Internal USB 2.0 Blu-ray Writer and 8X DVD Writer, 2 x HDD, sound card plus the ability to allow for future expansion.​

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* 1TB SSD disk for the operating system and 2 x 8TB Hard Disks​

The configuration I have come up with is:
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/HXZZEAUJXg/


The questions I have are:

* Will the processor, Intel Core i9-12900K CPU 16 Cores, 24 Threads 3.2 – 5.2GHz. satisfy the requirements of both the video editing and flight simulation. Does the performance of this processor, justify the addition cost of £114.99 were I to go for the cheaper Intel Core i7-12700K CPU, 16 Cores* / 24 Threads, 3.4GHz? Is there any where that I am able to compare the performance of both processors?​

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* For both gaming and video editing, which would be the best motherboard: the ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 or the ASUS TUF Gaming Z690-Plus Wi-Fi D4?​

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* Grateful if you could confirm the selected graphics card, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card, will provide the high performance / frame rate, and smoothness when playing Flight Simulator. My monitor is a Dell UltraSharp U3818DW Ultra-Wide Monitor (Screen resolution 3840 x 1600, 60Hz image refresh rate).​

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* I am not really into all the flashing LED lights and glass sides. I just want a black desktop computer which ideally has a front door/panel that opens to allow access to the Internal USB 2.0 Blu-ray Writer and 8X DVD Writer and ideally a USB 3.0 Card Reader. I appreciate I can get an external card reader. In addition, the case should allow the installing of 2 x additional hard drives and possibly a 5.1 sound card if needed, 4 Port USB 3.0 PCIe Card. Ideally it should have 3 x USB3 sockets and I x USB C socket at the front. I have selected the Cooler Master Silencio S600 Mid-Tower. Is there a more suitable case for my needs?​

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* Do you offer a front mounted internal Card Reader?​

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* With the inbuilt HD audio, is there any benefit in fitting a separate 5.1 sound card.​

* Is the above USB 2.0 Blu-ray Writer and 8X DVD Writer an internal component mounted at the front of the desktop?

I do appreciate lots of questions but with the considerable expenditure I want to make sure I have the right configuration for both gaming and video editing.

Many thanks

 

[brijon]

Oops - the configuration didn't get pasted to my thread.

The details are:


Case
COOLERMASTER SILENCIO S600 QUIET MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900K (3.2GHz) 30MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
8TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
1st Storage Drive
8TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Memory Card Reader
USB 3.0 EXTERNAL SD/MICRO SD CARD READER
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Firewire
2 Port IEEE 1394a Firewire PCI-E Card (2 x 6 pin)
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)



Unique URL to re-configure:

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[Scott]

There's a ton of things to consider with your build:

The Case - I wouldn't recommend the S600 at all. It's labelled as silent, but this comes at the cost of thermals. Putting one of the hottest chips in such a case wouldn't be recommended. The difficulty is in finding a case that can accommodate your DVD-RW needs. You mentioned an external Bluray/DVD-RW. Are you ok with a USB offering or do you need to have it inside the case? They are pretty much classed as redundant nowadays as most would use streaming. This is the reason there are so few options with internal drives.

CPU - I think the 13900k is about as good as you're likely to get. The 13700k will have less performance in Premiere pro, but it's still a very strong CPU. Over 100s of file conversions you would likely notice a difference but it would be a fair compromise IMO.

Motherboard - Strix is a fine choice regardless. Good audio and VRM on the Strix. The TUF is a good choice too though, with the 13700k I would be happy with either.

GPU - You've selected the 3060Ti. I don't think this is a very strong GPU with FS2020 in mind. The sky is the limit though. I run a 3070Ti just now at 1080p, and in VR, and rarely see over 50fps in built up areas. I think FPS is less important in flight simulators though. I would be looking for at least the 3070Ti in your shoes.

Storage - I think the storage choices could be better. I would want a faster primary drive (500GB 980 Pro), a fast secondary drive for the games (1TB Firecuda 530) and at least an SSD cache drive for Premiere Pro. Other storage is as you wish but be aware that the Ironwolf drives are noisy.

PSU - You'll want at least 1000w PSU IMO.

Cooling - You need at least a H115i on there IMO

 

[brijon]

Hi Scott,

Grateful for feedback and advice.

The reason for the Blu-Ray and DVD writer is to save family videos to disks to pass around the family. I can accept an external device but thought I would loose writing speed by connecting via a USB cable. An external optical reader would negate the need for a case with a front door.

Regarding the CPU, you mention the 13900K, my configuration includes the Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900K (3.2GHz) 30MB Cache. Are you suggesting I go for the Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-13900K (3.0GHz) 36MB Cache (additional £67)? What justified the extra outlay?

The GeForce 3071Ti is an additional £220. Is there any website that you are aware of that you can compare visually the difference between the two graphic cards when playing FS2020?

Grateful for the very useful info regarding the noise of the Ironwolf HDDs. Which 8TB HHD would you recommend?

Also would a 1TB SSD not be sufficient for the operating system plus some games. Most of my flight simulators are loaded via Steam so would I need a 500GB SSD and a 1TB SSD for gaming?

You recommend CORSAIR iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler. Does the liquid pump not add to the noise? Are there any similar coolers without the RGB lighting? I just need the cooling functionality and not the lighting gizmos.

Again many thanks.

 

[TonyCarter]

Not ultrawite 1440p, but 4k FPS in MSFS2020 here.

 

[brijon]

Hi Tony,
many thanks for the link.

 

[Scott]

Hi Scott,

Grateful for feedback and advice.

The reason for the Blu-Ray and DVD writer is to save family videos to disks to pass around the family. I can accept an external device but thought I would loose writing speed by connecting via a USB cable. An external optical reader would negate the need for a case with a front door.

Regarding the CPU, you mention the 13900K, my configuration includes the Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900K (3.2GHz) 30MB Cache. Are you suggesting I go for the Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-13900K (3.0GHz) 36MB Cache (additional £67)? What justified the extra outlay?

The GeForce 3071Ti is an additional £220. Is there any website that you are aware of that you can compare visually the difference between the two graphic cards when playing FS2020?

Grateful for the very useful info regarding the noise of the Ironwolf HDDs. Which 8TB HHD would you recommend?

Also would a 1TB SSD not be sufficient for the operating system plus some games. Most of my flight simulators are loaded via Steam so would I need a 500GB SSD and a 1TB SSD for gaming?

You recommend CORSAIR iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler. Does the liquid pump not add to the noise? Are there any similar coolers without the RGB lighting? I just need the cooling functionality and not the lighting gizmos.

Again many thanks.

Apologies, I had the top line in my head. I would probably have he 13700k over the 12900k. Just for the faster threads. I don't think the i9 is justified for your needs.

I would have a look at the cost of supplying your own GPU. It depends where the PCS pricing is. I would have thought it would be reasonable though as the new cards are released now (4070Ti).

If you want the best CPU for FS2020 I would wait for the AMD X3D chips to be released next month. This will offer a significant jump in performance in FS2020. You would want the 7900X3D for your video rendering needs etc too. It won't be as good for Premiere pro but it;ll be better for FS2020. It depends what takes priority really. None of these chips will be a slouch though, they'll all do a great job.

For the mass storage, I would probably opt for a WD Red drive. They tend to be a good bit quieter. Would need to purchase it yourself though. 16GB is a lot of storage to be looking after though. Be sure to use cloud services or something for a redundancy backup.

Ideally you want the OS and main programs on the drive on their own, you don't want to fill the drive past 50% so around 200GB is the recommended ideal. Games etc you want on a second drive so that the OS can run optimum and the games can load on their own lane. It's all about efficiency and throughput really. Having a cache drive will make a big difference for Premiere too. You could even multi-purpose the "Games" drive as a "Games/Cache" drive, as you would only be doing one or the other at any time.

H115i is probably the quietest high performing cooler there is. It has magnetic levitation fans that run almost silent. Unfortunately they all come with RGB in some form, thankfully you can turn it off though

 

[brijon]

Hi Scott

Many thanks for your response.

Regarding the processor, are you suggesting I should go for the i7-13700K rather than the i9-12900K? Will this i9 not give me inflation proofing for the next generation of flight simulators? The cost difference is £119 and if the performance difference between both mother boards is negligible for both video editing and FS2020, I will go with the i-7.

The problems with waiting for the AMD X3D chips is the addition cost and delay time. Do you have any details on either?

Regarding the HDD. I am loath to buy the HDD myself because of the problem of who repairs the failed HDD under warranty. So, my only non-SSD HDD options are between the 6TB Seagate Barracuda and the 6TB Seagate Ironwolf Pro. Other than the increased noise of the Ironwolf, do you have any views on the best HDD to install?

Kind regards

Brian

 

[Scott]

There isn't a great deal of performance difference between the 13700k and the 12900k, better to save the money and go with the 13700k IMO. I don't think you would ever notice the difference.

FS2020 mostly uses single thread, the 13700k likely out performs the 12900k in this regard as it boosts higher.

With regards to AMD. The 5800X3D (last generation) obliterated the competition for FS2020. I think it's still the best performer for simulation even with the latest Intel offerings. The next generation of X3D chips are what's coming out in February. The expectation is that, for gaming, they are going to do the same again. They are already fantastic performers without the 3D cache so with that bolted on I think they're going to be ideally suited to your uses.

If you fit your own HDD and it fails, you return the HDD to the place you purchased it from or the manufacturer (depending on warranty period etc). If you can isolate the system then it's far less of an issue though. The 16TB requirement for storage would leave me nervous though, that sort of bulk storage suggests archiving which I would consider purchasing cloud storage to do. I have a fair bit of bulk storage but it's nothing that I couldn't recover by re-downloading etc. I would never put anything truly important solely on a conventional drive.

 

[brijon]

Hi Scott

Thanks for your reply.

In response to you suggesting that for FS2020, the i713700K will out perform the i9-12900K, I will go for the i7 13700K.

Regarding the AMD next generation of X3D, are you referring to the 24GB AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (An additional £453 cf the GeForce RTX 3070 Ti)? If so this additional cost and delay put me off waiting for the new AMD graphics card.

Regarding the HDDs, I am proposing the operating systems will be on the 500GB SSD, games and video editing on the 1TB SSD. I use the first HDD for my storing MS Office working documents, music files, video files, photos, etc. which totals 2.35TB. The second HDD is used for Genie Timeline backups, Steam Backup and other documents, this totals 2 TB. All is backed up to a NAS drive and the cloud. I lost a hard disk 20 years ago and so I am rather anal regarding backing up.

I am not that keen on fit a third party HDD, so ordering from PCS I am limited between the Seagate BARRACUDA and the IRONWOLF. I understand the BARRACUDA has a slower write time, but the IRONWOLF is quieter cf the BARRACUDA.

Based on feed back to my original configuration, the new configuration I am considering is:

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 16-Core Processor i9-13700K (3.4GHz) 36MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6000MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Firewire
NONE
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/ug5js2aSjr/

When I save the above configuration I receive a PCS message stating my PSU, CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS, is over spec and recommends I install a 650W PSU. When I select the Corsair 650W CV Series and try to proceed, I then receive a message stating “The motherboard you have selected requires 2 x EPS12V cables, please amend your power supply selection to the RMx range or above”. Hence the lowest suitable PSU is the CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS. Is this suitable for the above system?

Many thanks

 

[Martinr36]

When I save the above configuration I receive a PCS message stating my PSU, CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS, is over spec and recommends I install a 650W PSU. When I select the Corsair 650W CV Series and try to proceed, I then receive a message stating “The motherboard you have selected requires 2 x EPS12V cables, please amend your power supply selection to the RMx range or above”. Hence the lowest suitable PSU is the CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS. Is this suitable for the above system?

When you spec for a PSU, you spec with allowing head room for future upgrades, these days I wouldn't spec below a 1000W

 

[sck451]

Hi Scott

Thanks for your reply.

In response to you suggesting that for FS2020, the i713700K will out perform the i9-12900K, I will go for the i7 13700K.

Regarding the AMD next generation of X3D, are you referring to the 24GB AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (An additional £453 cf the GeForce RTX 3070 Ti)? If so this additional cost and delay put me off waiting for the new AMD graphics card.

Regarding the HDDs, I am proposing the operating systems will be on the 500GB SSD, games and video editing on the 1TB SSD. I use the first HDD for my storing MS Office working documents, music files, video files, photos, etc. which totals 2.35TB. The second HDD is used for Genie Timeline backups, Steam Backup and other documents, this totals 2 TB. All is backed up to a NAS drive and the cloud. I lost a hard disk 20 years ago and so I am rather anal regarding backing up.

I am not that keen on fit a third party HDD, so ordering from PCS I am limited between the Seagate BARRACUDA and the IRONWOLF. I understand the BARRACUDA has a slower write time, but the IRONWOLF is quieter cf the BARRACUDA.

Based on feed back to my original configuration, the new configuration I am considering is:

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 16-Core Processor i9-13700K (3.4GHz) 36MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6000MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Firewire
NONE
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/ug5js2aSjr/

When I save the above configuration I receive a PCS message stating my PSU, CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS, is over spec and recommends I install a 650W PSU. When I select the Corsair 650W CV Series and try to proceed, I then receive a message stating “The motherboard you have selected requires 2 x EPS12V cables, please amend your power supply selection to the RMx range or above”. Hence the lowest suitable PSU is the CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS. Is this suitable for the above system?

Many thanks

Scott is referring to the 3D V-Cache versions of the AMD CPUs, not the graphics cards. Like the 5800X3D CPU, which added 3D V-Cache to the existing 5000-series CPUs, the 7000 CPUs will have a 3D V-Cache version coming out in the next few weeks. These are very likely to be significantly better performers in games, especially MSFS. The 7950X3D is likely to be the ideal chip for a combination of gaming and video editing.

A good summary of what you can expect can be found at 1:02 here:

 

[Scott]

Hi Scott

Thanks for your reply.

In response to you suggesting that for FS2020, the i713700K will out perform the i9-12900K, I will go for the i7 13700K.

Regarding the AMD next generation of X3D, are you referring to the 24GB AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (An additional £453 cf the GeForce RTX 3070 Ti)? If so this additional cost and delay put me off waiting for the new AMD graphics card.

Regarding the HDDs, I am proposing the operating systems will be on the 500GB SSD, games and video editing on the 1TB SSD. I use the first HDD for my storing MS Office working documents, music files, video files, photos, etc. which totals 2.35TB. The second HDD is used for Genie Timeline backups, Steam Backup and other documents, this totals 2 TB. All is backed up to a NAS drive and the cloud. I lost a hard disk 20 years ago and so I am rather anal regarding backing up.

I am not that keen on fit a third party HDD, so ordering from PCS I am limited between the Seagate BARRACUDA and the IRONWOLF. I understand the BARRACUDA has a slower write time, but the IRONWOLF is quieter cf the BARRACUDA.

Based on feed back to my original configuration, the new configuration I am considering is:

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 16-Core Processor i9-13700K (3.4GHz) 36MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6000MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Firewire
NONE
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/ug5js2aSjr/

When I save the above configuration I receive a PCS message stating my PSU, CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS, is over spec and recommends I install a 650W PSU. When I select the Corsair 650W CV Series and try to proceed, I then receive a message stating “The motherboard you have selected requires 2 x EPS12V cables, please amend your power supply selection to the RMx range or above”. Hence the lowest suitable PSU is the CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS. Is this suitable for the above system?

Many thanks

I think you are misunderstanding with regards to the X3D chips. The AMD X3D I'm referring to is the CPU, rather than a GPU.

The below would be a recommended example, but I would hold out for the 7900X3D to come out, it's expected to be a FS2020 monster.

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz-5.6GHz/76MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI (WIFI 6E, DDR5, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 5600MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6000MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Price: £3,099.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/t5q3W0v!Tm/

 

[brijon]

Hi Scott,

Thank for your time in producing a new spec.

Do you know when the AMD X3D will arrive at PCS and what the additional cost compared to the AMD Ryzen 9 7900X?

I note you have gone with the BARRACUDA HDD. Is there any reason for this given I understand these to be slower and noisier that the IRONWOLF HDDs?

 

[Scott]

Hi Scott,

Thank for your time in producing a new spec.

Do you know when the AMD X3D will arrive at PCS and what the additional cost compared to the AMD Ryzen 9 7900X?

I note you have gone with the BARRACUDA HDD. Is there any reason for this given I understand these to be slower and noisier that the IRONWOLF HDDs?

There isn't a release date but as soon as they are released, they will be available on PCS. We just know it's February. Pricing is a bit of an unknown as well. The rumour is that they are going to be released at the same RRP as the non-3D counterparts, with them in turn receiving a discount.... but we will need to wait and see. I would expect no more than £100 bump though.

The Barracuda are much quieter than the Ironwolf drives. The Ironwolfs are notoriously noisy.

 

[brijon]

Hi Scott,

Many thanks. Lots to consider.

Kind regards

 

[RichLan564]

Hi Scott,

Many thanks. Lots to consider.

Kind regards

Just my pennyworth, YMMV, but for me you would be better putting 2 x 6TB HDD's in a NAS enclose if you really need that much storage then just have a 2TB SSD in your machine if you need a bit of local storage, Ironwolfs may be quieter than Barracudas but they are still noisy, mine certain is and i very rarely read/write to it.

 

[brijon]

Many thanks to Scott and others for comments on an earlier thread. I am after a high end desktop for video editing using Premiere Pro and playing FS2020 with a very high resolution and frame rate.

This link: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...o-13th-gen-intel-core-vs-amd-ryzen-7000-2381/ compares Adobe Premiere Pro running on13th Gen Intel Core vs AMD Ryzen 7000. Both i7-13700K and i9-13900K out perform their AMD counterparts. Hence my conclusion is to go for an Intel CPU.

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 16-Core Processor i7-13700KF (3.4GHz) 30MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st Storage Drive
6TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 5400RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/ZsxU6MHBsP/

The build I am currently considering is listed above. I would have preferred ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) but it appears PCS has run out and the dues in of new stock is not until 1 Feb 23. What is a comparable motherboard to the STRIX Z690? Are the PCS arrival dates accurate, as I may be prepared to wait.

Original I went for 64GM RAM but my research states this is overkill and 32GB is more than adequate for both Premiere Pro and FS2020. Is this correct? Also, regarding the RAM, is it best to go for 2 x 16GB or 4 x 8GB sticks?

Regarding the SSD drives. Is it best to have a 500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe drive for the operating system, plus a 1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe for FS2020, MS Office program and files, Adobe Creator program and files, or go for a 2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe for all the above software?

Many thanks

 

[tikky]

What is a comparable graphics card to the STRIX Z690?

I'm not sure if that's a typo but the Z690 is not a graphics card it's a motherboard.
To me your spec looks ok but I see you'll be playing MSFS at high res....it would make a significant difference if you could stretch to a 3080 graphics card, MSFS eats GPU VRAM.

 

[brijon]

Hi Tikky,

A good spot the post has been amended.

Previously I was toying with a RTX 4070 Ti. How does this compare in FS2020 against the 3080 graphics card?