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[UnitarySquid]

Case
CIT PYRO RGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-11700K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B560M-PLUS: mATX, LGA1200, USB 3.2, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

I just wondered if someone could give an opinion on this setup before I potentially order? One thing I am concerned about however is whether I should try and actually include some extra fans?

 

[Martinr36]

I suggest you take a read of these links

AMD Vs Intel

So some of you aren't aware of the reasons why so many people are heading away from Intel to AMD, so thought it would be important to lay that out for people to refer back to. A lot of you will go to cpubenchmark or userbenchmark to find performance metrics for CPU's. These sites are complete...

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[sck451]

Hi 'Squid. Can I suggest you take a look through the links in this thread:

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In particular, can you say (a) what purpose, (b) what monitor, and (c) what budget?

 

[UnitarySquid]

Monitor - Irrelevant, I will be connecting it to my TV via HDMI for the time being! (to save on budget for the time being)
Uses - I will be using this system for gaming, programming and drawing. The programming could extend to parallel programming or the use of machine learning, so I want a somewhat capable PC to facilitate this
Budget - Somewhere around £1,200

 

[SpyderTracks]

Monitor - Irrelevant, I will be connecting it to my TV via HDMI for the time being! (to save on budget for the time being)

What TV though? What resolution and refresh rate or make and model if you don't know? And when are you thinking of buying a monitor?

 

[Citrus_9]

Monitor - Irrelevant, I will be connecting it to my TV via HDMI for the time being! (to save on budget for the time being)
Uses - I will be using this system for gaming, programming and drawing. The programming could extend to parallel programming or the use of machine learning, so I want a somewhat capable PC to facilitate this
Budget - Somewhere around £1,200

As above, we need to know more about a screen so we could properly advise which GPU should it go with.

Unfortunately, budget is very low. Would you be able to increase it? Currently prices due to demand and supply disbalance are high.

I'm wondering, what kind of games you'll run (to understand the need of Cpu, Gpu and Ram), and, again, for same reasons, what software you'll run for programming and editing?

Depending on how heavy tasks for machine learning will be, you may need to consider to increase the budget to around 2000. But that's currently just my assumption without too much details we now. Once we understand the specifics of your uses and requirements, we'll be able to help.

 

[UnitarySquid]

What TV though? What resolution and refresh rate or make and model if you don't know? And when are you thinking of buying a monitor?

It's a Toshiba 19DL502B tv, it has a refresh rate of 50Hz and a resolution of 720p. Again this a temporary setup, and I intend to get a better monitor later in the future. In terms of when, it will likely be one of the days I get paid in the future, maybe in 1-3 months.

As above, we need to know more about a screen so we could properly advise which GPU should it go with.

Unfortunately, budget is very low. Would you be able to increase it? Currently prices due to demand and supply disbalance are high.

I'm wondering, what kind of games you'll run (to understand the need of Cpu, Gpu and Ram), and, again, for same reasons, what software you'll run for programming and editing?

Depending on how heavy tasks for machine learning will be, you may need to consider to increase the budget to around 2000. But that's currently just my assumption without too much details we now. Once we understand the specifics of your uses and requirements, we'll be able to help.

Sadly I can't increase my budget, that's a limit I need to set myself atm >.< But I understand the issues with values of components currently

The most intensive game i'll be playing atm is probably Genshin Impact? And possibly Tales of Arise when that releases later in the year. In terms of programming, I will be using Microsoft Visual Studio for the most part! Drawing-wise, I will be using Clip Studio Pro!

Interesting with the machine learning? Unfortunately I'm not sure how to elaborate on that. I studied machine learning when I was at University, and I was hoping to get some more practice in at home with some personal projects. It might even be useful in case I have to work at home someday with a job in the field of machine learning.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Interesting with the machine learning? Unfortunately I'm not sure how to elaborate on that. I studied machine learning when I was at University, and I was hoping to get some more practice in at home with some personal projects. It might even be useful in case I have to work at home someday with a job in the field of machine learning.

What packages are you using for machine learning?

 

[UnitarySquid]

What packages are you using for machine learning?

For the machine learning projects, I will likely be programming moreso in Python. And the machine learning packages I am currently intending to use are TensorFlow, Keras, Matplotlib, NumPy.

 

[SpyderTracks]

For the machine learning projects, I will likely be programming moreso in Python. And the machine learning packages I am currently intending to use are TensorFlow, Keras, Matplotlib, NumPy.

I would suggest a minimum of 32Gb RAM then.

I would strongly suggest saving up a bit longer, the budget you currently have is going to give a pretty poor performer for the uses you're needing out of it.

Machine learning would benefit from hardware acceleration as well as RAM allocation, so a relatively decent GPU like a 3070 would be extremely valuable.

Currently you wouldn't even be able to factor in an RTX card, so no tensor cores which would be a huge shame for such requirements as it gives an invaluable boost to overall power.

 

[Citrus_9]

For the machine learning projects, I will likely be programming moreso in Python. And the machine learning packages I am currently intending to use are TensorFlow, Keras, Matplotlib, NumPy.

I've used all of these last year during my short 1 year Data Analytics course with my old laptop which I thought will explode 😅 I had to leave it overnight to finish the computations. I'm no expert, just a simple guy wanted to challenge myself in this area (later switched to accounting). I'm under impression that you need at least 32GB Ram and at least 5600X while more likely 5800X. I wouldn't look to Intel these days.

Just to give a context that my projects were tiny, just simple data preprocessing and some immature price predictions and also data shuffle and blending.

 

[UnitarySquid]

I've used all of these last year during my short 1 year Data Analytics course with my old laptop which I thought will explode 😅 I had to leave it overnight to finish the computations. I'm no expert, just a simple guy wanted to challenge myself in this area (later switched to accounting). I'm under impression that you need at least 32GB Ram and at least 5600X while more likely 5800X. I wouldn't look to Intel these days.

Just to give a context that my projects were tiny, just simple data preprocessing and some immature price predictions and also data shuffle and blending.

I could be wrong, but while AMD might be faster and cheaper these days, I thought Intel's processors were still cooler in temperature? I could be wrong, but that was the impression I was under?

 

[SpyderTracks]

I could be wrong, but while AMD might be faster and cheaper these days, I thought Intel's processors were still cooler in temperature? I could be wrong, but that was the impression I was under?

Oh dear no, Intel are about 10 degrees hotter than AMD while using almost double the power to achieve lesser performance, they’re awful chips, it’s all outlined in the link above, I’d strongly recommend spending some time to look through them.

 

[Citrus_9]

I could be wrong, but while AMD might be faster and cheaper these days, I thought Intel's processors were still cooler in temperature? I could be wrong, but that was the impression I was under?

That's wrong Older AMD generations were hot, newer are much better in nearly all cases, comparing to already outdated Intel technology.

 

[sck451]

At this price point, the best you can do really is to buy something that will serve for now and can be easily upgraded in the future. Any system that can be specced on these grounds is going to be compromised in terms of current performance, but it's better to spend money on getting the fundamentals right.

The big problem with this build is the 1050 Ti graphics card, which is the best you can afford. (The fact that it's £188 is absurd, but there's nothing that can be done about that in 2021, sadly!) But this has a better case, a better power supply, and a better overall architecture because it's AMD rather than Intel, which right now is 100% the correct choice.

CPU, graphics card, storage, cooling and, if necessary, RAM can all be fairly easily upgraded after purchase. Now, I personally wouldn't choose to buy a system on these grounds (and 720p 75Hz gaming is a definite "ouch"), but ultimately it's your money! It will, in any case, be a much better choice than your original.

Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY C BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,263.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/8nBaXY7U3v/

 

[jamiephillips909]

At this price point, the best you can do really is to buy something that will serve for now and can be easily upgraded in the future. Any system that can be specced on these grounds is going to be compromised in terms of current performance, but it's better to spend money on getting the fundamentals right.

The big problem with this build is the 1050 Ti graphics card, which is the best you can afford. (The fact that it's £188 is absurd, but there's nothing that can be done about that in 2021, sadly!) But this has a better case, a better power supply, and a better overall architecture because it's AMD rather than Intel, which right now is 100% the correct choice.

CPU, graphics card, storage, cooling and, if necessary, RAM can all be fairly easily upgraded after purchase. Now, I personally wouldn't choose to buy a system on these grounds (and 720p 75Hz gaming is a definite "ouch"), but ultimately it's your money! It will, in any case, be a much better choice than your original.

Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY C BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,263.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/8nBaXY7U3v/

Now thats a great base build to invest future upgrades in !!!!! If you have a valid windows license on your old machine you can transfer it to save yourself some money !

 

[UnitarySquid]

At this price point, the best you can do really is to buy something that will serve for now and can be easily upgraded in the future. Any system that can be specced on these grounds is going to be compromised in terms of current performance, but it's better to spend money on getting the fundamentals right.

The big problem with this build is the 1050 Ti graphics card, which is the best you can afford. (The fact that it's £188 is absurd, but there's nothing that can be done about that in 2021, sadly!) But this has a better case, a better power supply, and a better overall architecture because it's AMD rather than Intel, which right now is 100% the correct choice.

CPU, graphics card, storage, cooling and, if necessary, RAM can all be fairly easily upgraded after purchase. Now, I personally wouldn't choose to buy a system on these grounds (and 720p 75Hz gaming is a definite "ouch"), but ultimately it's your money! It will, in any case, be a much better choice than your original.

Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY C BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,263.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/8nBaXY7U3v/

This is a nice build too, I like it! Just one question though, is the standard AMD cooler sufficient and quiet enough?

 

[SpyderTracks]

This is a nice build too, I like it! Just one question though, is the standard AMD cooler sufficient and quiet enough?

It will work fine, but it won’t be quiet. But we’re working to the budget you’ve set, if you’ve got an additional £100 for a decent AIO there would be better areas to spend that on.

I’m afraid at this low budget, most of the build is a compromise

 

[sck451]

As Spyder says, sufficient and not problematically noisy. But I would upgrade storage and graphics for your system before I upgrade cooling.

 

[UnitarySquid]

As Spyder says, sufficient and not problematically noisy. But I would upgrade storage and graphics for your system before I upgrade cooling.

Ok interesting, but what's the issue with the storage?