Best Gaming PC I can buy FOR £2500

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phil0sophy

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keynes said:
The GTX 690 are 2 x GTX 680 underclocked. I am running 2 x GTX 680 in SLI and for the games I play I have not yet experienced any issues. I am not sure whether you will benefit from the i7 if you are planning to play and record at the same time. Most games are gpu intensive so I wouldn't worry about future games as long as you choose a decent gpu.
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So in your opinion what would be the best build to male sure I get constant 60fps whilst recording at 1080p with say crysis 3 as an example fully maxed out?

Should I maybe look at buying an over locked I7? Or hex core?
 
keynes

keynes

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Looking at some benchmarks Crysis 3 seems to benefit from the additional cores in the processor.
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I don't think the price of the i7-3960x justifies the improvement in performance compare to the i5 or i7-3770.
If you want to get constant 60fps I am afraid I am not sure. Even if you get the GTX 690 I think that it wouldn't give you constant 60fps, it may average at around 60fps but it could go below that on some parts of the game.
 
Keedar

Keedar

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I understand but if you will run one monitor you no need to get 2x690 for now.Maybe in future but for now one 690 is enough. For gaming,rendering and recording i7 quad is really good so i dont see point to get more expensive cpu :) Just keep money for later.In future when you decide to get second gpu,installing is very simple if you afraid right now :)
 
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phil0sophy

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keynes said:
Looking at some benchmarks Crysis 3 seems to benefit from the additional cores in the processor.
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I don't think the price of the i7-3960x justifies the improvement in performance compare to the i5 or i7-3770.
If you want to get constant 60fps I am afraid I am not sure. Even if you get the GTX 690 I think that it wouldn't give you constant 60fps, it may average at around 60fps but it could go below that on some parts of the game.
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Do you mean whilst recording or in general? Also judging from the framerate's maybe sli is the way to go?
 
Blackdog

Blackdog

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phil0sophy said:
Do you mean whilst recording or in general? Also judging from the framerate's maybe sli is the way to go?
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Theres a good article here on Titan/690 vs some sli/ top end card set ups. For sheer fps, sli is your best way to hit 60fps. That said with even a single 690 you're going to have some of the best footage on the tube.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-6.html

Although they dont benchmark the 680 sli set up for some reason for gaming in general 680>7970

The crux of the article is that in terms of performance and value for money an sli set up is superior. For 2500 quid though, value for money isnt too much of a concern so a single card setup leaves you more room to upgrade when they release Crysis 4 (i assure you no game is going to come out that sniffs at your setup till then)
 
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phil0sophy

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Blackdog said:
Theres a good article here on 690 vs some sli/ top end card set ups. For sheer fps, sli is your best way to hit 60fps. That said with even a single 690 you're going to have some of the best footage on the tube.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-6.html

Although they dont benchmark the 680 sli set up for some reason for gaming in general 680>7970

The crux of the article is that in terms of performance and value for money an sli set up is superior. For 2500 quid though, value for money isnt too much of a concern so a single card setup leaves you more room to upgrade when they release Crysis 4 (i assure you no game is going to come out that sniffs at your setup till then)
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So in your overall opinion what hex core setup would you recommend? And what single or sli card would you combine it with given the choice? I am looking at the intel core i7 extreme computers section but am struggling to understand what is best going forward for an sli setup and really want that i7 hex core processor 15mb cache
 
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phil0sophy

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Also as the 690 does not support HDMI (only via converter) will that have an impact on image quality when running it to my tv? And will it play sound through my tv speakers using the adapter?
 
Blackdog

Blackdog

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phil0sophy said:
Also as the 690 does not support HDMI (only via converter) will that have an impact on image quality when running it to my tv? And will it play sound through my tv speakers using the adapter?
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An HDMI converter wont have an adverse effect on your image quality. DVI doesnt carry sound as far as i know, hdmi is basically the same cable with sound running as well.
 
vanthus

vanthus

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phil0sophy said:
Also as the 690 does not support HDMI (only via converter) will that have an impact on image quality when running it to my tv? And will it play sound through my tv speakers using the adapter?
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It should carry sound using a Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter,as I said in post 15,and image quality should remain the same.
 
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phil0sophy

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vanthus said:
Should carry sound using a Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter,as I said in post 15,and image quality should remain the same.
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Ahh my apologies I missed that, which adapter should I get? All I can seem to find is adapters for apple products?
 
Blackdog

Blackdog

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phil0sophy said:
So in your overall opinion what hex core setup would you recommend? And what single or sli card would you combine it with given the choice? I am looking at the intel core i7 extreme computers section but am struggling to understand what is best going forward for an sli setup and really want that i7 hex core processor 15mb cache
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For your money mate I'd go for a good clean setup that will last you a long time. Remember that we want to put the bulk of our budget into graphics card as this is predominately a gaming machine. You're gona spend a good whack of cash of this so do your research first. Youtube is your friend here, as are sites like toms hardware. Search for the part your considering and make sure its compared to the lower end models. For gaming, i Have an i5 3570 processor and a 670, and nothing has stopped it from simply devouring games:honestly this thing is a beast. Here's your starting point, the i5 3570. Like other posters have said this the sweet poitn for gaming:no developer will use more than four cores for years and years so anything else is superflous. Up from here is the 3770 if you're using photoshop or video rendering, I'd maybe look at that but as I dont use these sort of things, I can't comment too much.

A lot of posters with some real knowledge on this sort of thing have made recommendations so I'd look at those, and spend your sunday on google. Instead of me posting what I'd make its better if you keep posting your own builds here as you progress explaining why you went for particular parts and we'll keep posting our opinions. I'd remember that this is a process you're supposed to enjoy, and take your time over, so don't feel the need to rush about parting with a good deal of cash.
 
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phil0sophy

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Blackdog said:
For your money mate I'd go for a good clean setup that will last you a long time. Remember that we want to put the bulk of our budget into graphics card as this is predominately a gaming machine. You're gona spend a good whack of cash of this so do your research first. Youtube is your friend here, as are sites like toms hardware. Search for the part your considering and make sure its compared to the lower end models. For gaming, i Have an i5 3570 processor and a 670, and nothing has stopped it from simply devouring games:honestly this thing is a beast. Here's your starting point, the i5 3570. Like other posters have said this the sweet poitn for gaming:no developer will use more than four cores for years and years so anything else is superflous. Up from here is the 3770 if you're using photoshop or video rendering, I'd maybe look at that but as I dont use these sort of things, I can't comment too much.

A lot of posters with some real knowledge on this sort of thing have made recommendations so I'd look at those, and spend your sunday on google. Instead of me posting what I'd make its better if you keep posting your own builds here as you progress explaining why you went for particular parts and we'll keep posting our opinions. I'd remember that this is a process you're supposed to enjoy, and take your time over, so don't feel the need to rush about parting with a good deal of cash.
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Great advice and I agree 100% and will post builds I am considering starting with this one, I figure instead of just limiting myself I am just going to build one that is moderately future proof and upgradeable.

I have a build here ready but am wondering what the draw backs (if any) there are to it? I am thinking of in the future if I wanted to add a second card etc? http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-2011-overclocked/jzuxHqcOdu/
 
Teaz

Teaz

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It shouldn't if the overclock is balaned out and not on regularly. Though it will slowly degrade the cpu's life span. Just switch back to stock clocks whenever you're done recording or anything, should work out fine.
 
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