You don't get all the separate boxes (or at least I didn't) but I did get all the manuals, cables, screws etc and even the tube of thermal paste. Think I also had small rubber plugs to blank of any of the ports on my graphics card. I presume that's what they are for, as they have the same branding as my make of card.
A realistic delivery estimate for a Build that has everything in stock except an RTX3090?
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What is your maximum budget? You really need to select a better case to avoid cooking your PC. A cheap case is not a good idea on a high spec system. The ROG Strix board is not really needed for the 5800x. For drives, I would pick a Samsung 980 Pro for the 1st m.2 drive. 512 GB should be enough for the OS. I would then add a second m.2 drive for games instead of the SATA SSD. A PCS 1TB m.2 drive will be faster and cheaper than the SSD you have chosen.
The OP isn't really wanting a system, he's shopping for specific parts, hence a lot of the unusual options are just "throwaway" selections or at least that's how I've understood the post on his previous thread. Don't think he intends to use the PCS case.
Ideally this thread might be better suited to being merged with the original thread
Edit: Thanks to whoever sorted the thread merge
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If that's the case I hope he realises that he'll end up with no warranty
| 7.9 | We reserve the right to suspend the warranty or refuse service if your Case, Motherboard, CPU or BIOS have been replaced without authorisation. Any tampering, repair or modification by unauthorised personnel voids the warranty. |
Was mentioned when he first posted.
Martinr36
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Fair enough, I hadn't gone back in the original post
Yeah, I’ll probably look into following that advice tonight after work. A new media server/steam-link 4K60 streamer build somewhat reliant on cascading parts from my current PC and other parts ordered with this PCS PC has complicated my thinking especially considering some specific plans/part choices for that build have changed in my head even in the short time since I submitted the latest iteration of the PCS order and amendments. ie. maybe shift my current 1TB 2.5” SSD to that other build, and like you advised, get the Samsung 980 m2 NVME 512GB for OS and get a 2TB NVME for the Steam and Oculus Storage.
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Yeah, waiting on a reply from PCS for clarification about warranties for individual parts. Prepared to take the risk even if all warranties are null and void if everything is still working fine after a couple of weeks run in period in the PCS case before I start transferring the build.
Current plan is actually to build my media server/game streaming rig into the PCS case so its not going to waste either.
However, even the warranty argument might be moot, I’m changing plans, getting new ideas, amending orders so often at the moment, I might indeed change the PCS case to a ‘Forever’ PCS case and thus the warranty remains intact. ie. just as I’m typing this out new idea just came to me. Its all still fluid, but I wanted to get the base order of CPU/Mobo and GPU on the system ASAP to get in the Queue.
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Wait times seem pretty short. My 3090 i9 build has gone into Building and then same day Testing in just 10 days.
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If you plan to change the case it's all in, why don't you just send in the case you want it all to be in? It'll be a bit of extra leg work but it'll mean your warranty stays intact (assuming you don't intend to change the other parts in that clause too). Seems like a no brainer to me personally. Alternatively, PCS has some amazing cases at great prices so picking one of theirs wouldn't be a bad decision at all, it'd just mean you have an extra case to do something with.
Well, I had dealt with this question a couple of days ago but....
I now realise why the "Lian-Li O11 Dynamic aluminium midi tower white" caught my eye in the past. I think I said to myself that it look nice on its side like my Corsair Air540 and that all that tempered glass would expose even more of the internals. This was just from seeing the thing upright in promo shots on websites over the last year. So I'm browsing other sections of the PCS forum today and I see in the "Cases you'd like PCS to sell" section someone asking for the Lian-li O11 Dynamic aluminium midi tower white. I realise this is the case that used to catch my eye. This time though given I am potentially in the market for a new case, I actually google it and look at some YT videos about it and holy ****, it really is very similar to my own DIY Modded Air540 build that I was adamant I wanted to transfer this PCS Strix x570/5800X/Strix3090 build into. With my Air 540 I loved the dual chamber design, I modded and squeezed a 3bay HDD Caddy into the PSU side of the case. I plasti-dipped the inside of the case white. I orientate the case on its side. I dremeled out the original HDD sleds and fit dual 140mm fans to intake cool air from outside the case aimed directly at the GPU. Its like De Bauer who designed this case for Lian-Li saw myself and others Air540 mods over on overclocker.net several years ago, and liked some of our ideas and implemented them in this case. I am now totally sold on this Lian-Li and will happily send my trusty Air540 out to pasture.
Only problem is that PCS don't sell it.
However, While I didn't relish the thought of sending my Air540 from Ireland over to the UK for PCS to build my PC into from a cost or hassle perspective......its a lot less hassle involved even if I have to order the case from somewhere else in the UK. I simply set PCS as my delivery address for that case order and PCS will happily build my PC into it.. I read that this is an option that others have already taken advantage of in the past.
So yeah, Looks like a Plan!!
I think I remember seeing the option on the configurator to supply your own case. Maybe its only in the amendments area or maybe I imagined it. Anyway. I'll probably make some other amendments like the NVME amendments mentioned above, so when I figure out what other amendments I definitely want to make, I'll look for the 'Send in your own case' option in the amendments section. If theres nothing there, I'll ring PCS sales and ask them how one goes about sending ones own or having another vendor ship a new case to PCS.
BTW. Some photo's of my Air540 orientated on its side with my 2016 build with a 6700K/Z170-A/GTX1080 Palit SuperJetstream Plastidipped White. So picture the Lian-Li O11 Dynamic XL aluminium midi tower white laid over on its PSU backside in the same desk position as my current White Corsair Air540.
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In an earlier reply I've talked about your great points re the m.2 drives which I will probably amend on my order shortly.
WRT to the board, would I be right in now thinking after some further research that the B550's still have PCIe 4.0 for the x16 GPU slot, its just the others that are Gen 3 and that only matters if you intended to run even more NVME's in a PCIe adapter in one of the 3.0 slots?
While looking at reviews of the Lian-Li 011 Dynamic as a case option that I could order elsewhere and have it delivered to PCS and thus hold onto the warranties, One of the builders was using a Strix B550-A. OMG. That board with the white Strix/led shroud over the rear IO and the Aluminium Heatsinks would be the perfect board to go into the Lian-Li 011 Dynamic White case with its front panel Aluminium accent.
Only problem is PCS only have the Strix B550-F which is all black and not the Strix B550-A. Dammit!! LOL. Don't suppose PCS allow you to supply your own motherboard delivered from elsewhere too LOL.
[EDIT] I'm a night owl so this is a very late edit or early depending on your perspective. TBH I can live with a Black Strix B550-F and leaving my Strix 3090 un plasti-dipped white...ie. leaving it standard/black after all. The Lian-Li 011 Dynamic I have found can come in an Aluminium finish and with Dark Tinted Tempered glass and with Black components inside with LED's shining through looks great too.
Would tie in with my desks brushed aluminium brackets and the Brushed aluminium 5.1 Receiver I swapped into my setup recently, retiring a 20 year old Black 5.1 receiver. Time to abandon my 5 year long addiction to white 'Snow' PC themes. LOL
So I've saved a quote with an amended spec but want to run it by you guys before I amend the real order.
Would I be right in thinking that dropping down to the Strix B550 does not compromise the switch to the 2x m.2 nvme drives because neither are marked as Gen 4 drives?? I also realised I had left Win10 on the order but I have a Licence I bought for the brothers aborted VR Build but never ended up using. So buy dropping from the x570 Strix to the B550 one and by removing the Win10 licence, that offset the increased cost of the 2 higher spec/larger capacity m.2 drives. So the build cost actually dropped €20.
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One of the m.2 drives on the strix is gen 4, the second one is gen 3. The Samsung Pro will be fine in the gen 4
Don't forget to upgrade your warranty to silver, only an extra £5.
Should be an option to send your own case in, I'd love to have a dynamic xl, but funds didn't allow me to go down that route
Don't forget to upgrade your warranty to silver, only an extra £5.
Should be an option to send your own case in, I'd love to have a dynamic xl, but funds didn't allow me to go down that route
Got a reply from Andrew at PCS today re. the Warranty and transferring to a new case myself:
Arrgghh! Not the kind of clarity of response I was hoping for as it still leaves room for interpretation.
As an experienced PC builder having built my own PC's for myself for nearly 15 years, its highly unlikely I would damage anything during the transfer of components, so if I am reading Andrews reply right, if the transfer went fine, the warranty for all the individual components would still be intact and in the future if a component failed I could send it back to PCS for warranty repair or replacement. However, how would PCS ever know I hadn't damaged a component during case transfer. How could I prove it wasn't? How could PCS prove it was?
Its all moot now though I guess. I am highly likely to order a Lian-Li 011 Dynamic from another UK Company and have the case shipped to PCS rather than straight to Ireland to me which solves the whole warranty issue.
Arrgghh! Not the kind of clarity of response I was hoping for as it still leaves room for interpretation.
As an experienced PC builder having built my own PC's for myself for nearly 15 years, its highly unlikely I would damage anything during the transfer of components, so if I am reading Andrews reply right, if the transfer went fine, the warranty for all the individual components would still be intact and in the future if a component failed I could send it back to PCS for warranty repair or replacement. However, how would PCS ever know I hadn't damaged a component during case transfer. How could I prove it wasn't? How could PCS prove it was?
Its all moot now though I guess. I am highly likely to order a Lian-Li 011 Dynamic from another UK Company and have the case shipped to PCS rather than straight to Ireland to me which solves the whole warranty issue.
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Can I just take this opportunity to thank all the contributors to this thread that have advised me and helped me to refine this build. All your contributions have been invaluable!
I may be well capable of building a PC myself but I’m a 5 year out of the loop (since my last build) Intel guy, so I am/was a bit lost on the AMD Ryzen side of things and the latest storage technologies.
I may be well capable of building a PC myself but I’m a 5 year out of the loop (since my last build) Intel guy, so I am/was a bit lost on the AMD Ryzen side of things and the latest storage technologies.
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I've seen a 1000w PSU recommended in many 3090 related discussions on the forums lately. I selected the 850w because I'd seen it recommended once and to play it safe given the configurator was actually pestering me about over-speccing the PSU because I'd picked an 850 instead of its recommended 700w.
So am I safe with my 850w selection or should I amend the order up to a 1000w PSU? I'm thinking maybe I should because the configurator can only go on what I've selected for this build from PCS....but once I get it there'll now be a Kraken Z73, iCUE Commander Pro and up to 12 fans, 9 of which will definitely be RGB LED Case and Radiator fans. The configurator probably doesn't take into account overclocking of CPU or GPU either?
So am I safe with my 850w selection or should I amend the order up to a 1000w PSU? I'm thinking maybe I should because the configurator can only go on what I've selected for this build from PCS....but once I get it there'll now be a Kraken Z73, iCUE Commander Pro and up to 12 fans, 9 of which will definitely be RGB LED Case and Radiator fans. The configurator probably doesn't take into account overclocking of CPU or GPU either?
Given the amount you are spending I'd go the 1000w psu as its only £27 more, and provides you with that additional safety net of 150w.
From a very quick estimate on that build ( including your AIO and the additional fans) you are pulling between 650 and 700w, so your PSU will be running between 76 and 82% of capacity.
Given that you intended to add additional hard drives, there's additional wattage going to be used there. In addition given the way this thread and your ideas have developed with the build, I would expect there are other items that you want to add to the build that you already are in possession of, that have just slipped your mind. A 3tb hard drive requires approx. 20w, so a couple of those pushes you to the 700-750w level
A 1000w psu therefore will reduce the power usage to roughly between 65-70% thus allowing the psu to operate at a comfortable level.
There may even be a case to suggest a higher wattage PSU, but I will leave that for the more experienced guys.
From a very quick estimate on that build ( including your AIO and the additional fans) you are pulling between 650 and 700w, so your PSU will be running between 76 and 82% of capacity.
Given that you intended to add additional hard drives, there's additional wattage going to be used there. In addition given the way this thread and your ideas have developed with the build, I would expect there are other items that you want to add to the build that you already are in possession of, that have just slipped your mind. A 3tb hard drive requires approx. 20w, so a couple of those pushes you to the 700-750w level
A 1000w psu therefore will reduce the power usage to roughly between 65-70% thus allowing the psu to operate at a comfortable level.
There may even be a case to suggest a higher wattage PSU, but I will leave that for the more experienced guys.
COVID Lockdowns...
I've never been able to clear a large Visa bill so quick....
I've never put so much back on the Visa bill so quick....
LOL
Yeah, I think I'll bump the PSU up to 1000w to be safe.
Put a wish list together on a competitor site that will have the case on the 28/4/21 apparently (which I'll get delivered to PCS) and a few other bits and pieces like 9x Corsair QL120 RGB fans and iCUE Commander Pro. As I am no longer transferring the PCS build into my current case, I'm just going to sell it as it is (No longer parting it out or sale and putting other bits into this PCS build). That includes the Corsair H110iGT AIO. So I've decided to get a NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm AIO too. None of these extra parts are available from PCS so I have to go with the competitor for those. Even the fans. PCS have the Corsair LL120 RGB but these are fugly on the back like most fans whereas the QL120's are attractive fans on both sides. So the Fans, the AIO, the iCue Commander and the case come to a shocking price which when added to the cost of the PCS build brings it to eye-watering levels.
Like I said, I am incredibly lucky to be able to take advantage of insane S/H GPU prices so can offset about €1500+ of the total cost of this PC. Also incredibly lucky that I was able to continue to work during COVID Lockdowns safely and that my turnover increased 20-30% during the longest lockdown in Europe here in Ireland rather than decreased.
I'm rationalising this incredibly expensive PC build as striking while the iron is hot with insane S/H GPU prices, increased turnover...and before the potential austerity comes when this is all over!
Should end up looking similar to this build except Kraken Z73 instead of ROG 360mm AIO and Asus Strix3090 instead of MSI 2070.
I've never been able to clear a large Visa bill so quick....
I've never put so much back on the Visa bill so quick....
LOL
Yeah, I think I'll bump the PSU up to 1000w to be safe.
Put a wish list together on a competitor site that will have the case on the 28/4/21 apparently (which I'll get delivered to PCS) and a few other bits and pieces like 9x Corsair QL120 RGB fans and iCUE Commander Pro. As I am no longer transferring the PCS build into my current case, I'm just going to sell it as it is (No longer parting it out or sale and putting other bits into this PCS build). That includes the Corsair H110iGT AIO. So I've decided to get a NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm AIO too. None of these extra parts are available from PCS so I have to go with the competitor for those. Even the fans. PCS have the Corsair LL120 RGB but these are fugly on the back like most fans whereas the QL120's are attractive fans on both sides. So the Fans, the AIO, the iCue Commander and the case come to a shocking price which when added to the cost of the PCS build brings it to eye-watering levels.
Like I said, I am incredibly lucky to be able to take advantage of insane S/H GPU prices so can offset about €1500+ of the total cost of this PC. Also incredibly lucky that I was able to continue to work during COVID Lockdowns safely and that my turnover increased 20-30% during the longest lockdown in Europe here in Ireland rather than decreased.
I'm rationalising this incredibly expensive PC build as striking while the iron is hot with insane S/H GPU prices, increased turnover...and before the potential austerity comes when this is all over!
Should end up looking similar to this build except Kraken Z73 instead of ROG 360mm AIO and Asus Strix3090 instead of MSI 2070.
Next Nightowl question for your consideration this morning gentlemen...
Did a bit more research on the 'Send your case to PCS' thing.
Seems its an option you need to select at the order stage. It certainly doesn't appear in the Case section of the configurator post order and I just opened up an old Quote, reset it...and it still doesn't appear as an option.
Does anyone know whether Phone Customer Service on Tuesday will be able to amend my order to 'Supplying own Case'
Did a bit more research on the 'Send your case to PCS' thing.
Seems its an option you need to select at the order stage. It certainly doesn't appear in the Case section of the configurator post order and I just opened up an old Quote, reset it...and it still doesn't appear as an option.
Does anyone know whether Phone Customer Service on Tuesday will be able to amend my order to 'Supplying own Case'