Hailtothedoge
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Hahahah, i am saving that for retirement when i inherit my dads already too big collection of vinyl, and i already have one collection addiction in the form of shiny cardboard, stupid expensive pokemon cardboard.
4k buyers remorse / performance issues
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Hailtothedoge
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I always read your replies in homers voice, the Simpsons have made me into some sort of fox/disney sleeper agent
Hailtothedoge
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I have successfully packed my pc up, now to get it downstairs but i had forgotten how heavy and huge my pc case is, so i will take it down when my temporary lumbago has worn off.
SpyderTracks
We love you Ukraine
You could do some serious collecting in a few weeks, go to an auction each day, buy entire collections for pennies on the dollar, you'd be up to several thousand records by Friday playtime.
TonyCarter
VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
But it would take weeks/months to clear (or build) space for 2 tonnes of vinyl & cardboard...and I'd have to buy a gramophone to play them - unless there's a good app that takes a photo of the groove and converts it to lossless digital format?
HomerJ
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TonyCarter
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They probably have to arrive with halon / dry powder / wet chemical extinguishers as water won't help with a vinyl/pvc fire!
ubuysa
The BSOD Doctor
There's no such thing as lossless digital. The quantization of an analogue signal always loses information. Though there probably is a sampling rate which the human ear can't detect.
TonyCarter
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8kbps RealPlayer format is fine for me!
SpyderTracks
We love you Ukraine
YES!!! Someone who gets it!!!
Any digital source is millions of individual snapshots of a signal, or resolution. So CD quality is 44.1KHz at 16bit, that's 44,100,000 snapshots in a second.
That's why a lot of people prefer analogue. To actually get anywhere near TRUE representation of an analogue system in a digital file would be absolutely gigantic and take an enormous amount of processing. But with our current technologies, it's just not possible.
It's very much the same as refresh rate on a monitor. I guess I'm one of the idiots that believes a high refresh rate of 500Hz is actually an improvement!
And people with very sensitive hearing CAN hear the difference.
Also with "lossless" formats like FLAC, one of the ways they manage to get the file smaller is to replace what the sampler conceives to be an empty signal or silence with a 0 representation, but that's actually inaccurate. In a good recording, there's a sound to the silence, you can hear the vibrations in the room and it adds to the depth of the sound.
There's also the firm belief from a lot of analogue lovers that as the conversion to digital is all about measurements and maths, it removes parts of the recording that can influence emotion in a way that we currently don't understand. For me that's what music is more about than just sound, it's about how it makes me feel. Digital for me definitely removes some of that, even at DSD format which is the highest resolution currently possible.
I know that all sounds absurd, but if you ever get the chance to hear a good analogue setup alongside a digital, give it a go. I think anyone would hear a difference and certainly FEEL a difference. It depends what you want from your music, if you're into detail retrieval, Digital wins every time, if you're into the music sounding more warm and vibrant, analogue is likely your thing.
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ubuysa
The BSOD Doctor
I would suggest that you probably need to be under 30 years old to stand any chance of hearing quantization distortion in a CD even, never mind better quality. I too have met people who can hear the difference - or who claim they can (and I trust them) - but all of them were teenagers or very young men. When you get to be 72 you're just happy to be able to hear at all!!
FWIW when I was very young I was involved in some of the early PCM (pulse code modulation) systems that BT (I think it was still Post Office Telephones then?) was introducing for digital phone lines. You certainly could hear the quantization distortion back then....
FWIW when I was very young I was involved in some of the early PCM (pulse code modulation) systems that BT (I think it was still Post Office Telephones then?) was introducing for digital phone lines. You certainly could hear the quantization distortion back then....
SpyderTracks
We love you Ukraine
PCM is still used for DSD recordings, because DSD is only 1bit, you cant actually edit it (currently, but they're close to a solution on that), so it's converted to PCM to apply any equalisation or mastering and then converted back.
So for any really serious digital engineer, they won't do any mastering unless absolutely necessary as with any conversion, no matter in which domain, there's an inherent loss in quality even if only marginal.
Hailtothedoge
Gold Level Poster
I think the poor PCS employee doing the rma is going to be very confused looking through this thread when they reach the final page, that or they start collecting vinyl.
HomerJ
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Hailtothedoge
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So uh, checked my rma, two new entries, the case have been rma'd crushed left foot?? Im hoping dpd just dropped it and its not pcs employee foot. Defo didnt have that damage when it left so 😳
And card replacement for bent back plate and chipped pcei chip, pretty sure it was fine when it left so im not sure how that happened 😬 i should have photographed everything before it left...
And card replacement for bent back plate and chipped pcei chip, pretty sure it was fine when it left so im not sure how that happened 😬 i should have photographed everything before it left...
Hailtothedoge
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Yes didn't think of that bit, was just surprised when i saw rma for the case lol
DarkPaladin
Enthusiast
Do you have photos of these issues to share? I would strongly recommend contacting PCSpecialist about this.
I assume PCSpecialist would take photos of your PC before and after the repair so any further damages would likely be liable with DPD.
Hailtothedoge
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No, no pics.
Just on track returns marked as damaged left foot and got an email saying it was damaged in transit
SpyderTracks
We love you Ukraine
That's OK then, they understand it happened in transit, that's all that matters.
It's a very good point though for anyone going through returns process, take ohotos before you send it just for backup. PCS wouldn't try to stiff you but it's possible a courier would try to off the blame.