What is Runescape?

Tom DWC

Moderator
Moderator
This probably has something to do with your AMD card.. you should probably upgrade to Nvidia :)

It's a well known issue that has affected multiple hardware configurations across the board, ever since they released their bot nuke thing last year. Problem lies with the game. Before this update, you could quite easily run it on integrated graphics chips.
 

DeadEyeDuk

Superhero Level Poster
I have to disagree.. the quality of MMO's out there is pretty dire.. 99% are blatant WoW clones, Aion, Guild wars, Rift.. i have played them all.. they are just blatant Wow clones. Once you have played one, you have played them all. Runescape is a totaly diffrent experience.. and becuase it is so diffrent, that is the exact reason for all the hate (evident in this thread). It's an MMO that's nothing like Wow = instanly a bad MMO (in the eyes of a wow nerd atleast) And again because it is so diffrent, that is why i have stuck to it for nearly 10 years.

The same could be said about your argument that "all other MMOs are just WoW clones". Being different isn't always a good thing, and I am expressing my opinion that the difference between RS and modern games makes it a less than great gaming experience. And as the OP was asking what is RS and how is it to get into, I am pretty sure it'd be pointless if it was just a load of pro-RS posts, no?

I get why people are attached to games they have played for years, hell its one reason why WoW is still the juggernaut it is, because people are used to it, but that doesnt actually make them great games :)

Opinions are fun :D
 

Keenhail

Gold Level Poster
I have to put my foot in here in regards to the comment that all MMO's are WoW clones... Lets just be glad that I'm in a good mood XD because if I wasn't lets just say this post wouldn't be very friendly.

Everyone acts as if WoW is one that started MMO's and everyone who plays an MMO seems to be wearing WoW tinted glasses and see's the features as a clone of WoW. I played RIFT for over a year and never once saw anything similar to WoW. WoW could have only dreamed of being what RIFT was, they even stole idea's from it because of how successful it was

Just about the only thing that any new MMO has in common with WoW is the talent system...

Runescape I played years ago, It was a great game and I enjoyed it. There are still people I know that play it but I doubt I'd ever go back, I hate MMO's where its PAY TO WIN.

Paying £8.99 a month doesn't mean you are paying to win, everyone pays that price and its an even playing field. Giving yourself a boost because you paid £100 to get a bunch of EXP and get through 20 levels in 30 seconds is not the same
 

Deklore

Bright Spark
Clancy2k you seem very defensive about Runescape. I get people love their games, but i also understand some people speak with experience and express their own opinions. I for one played RS for 4yrs straight (i owned a party hat!) and i would NOT recommend it to someone getting into MMOs today.

Also regarding your comment that "all MMOs are WoW clones" well, no offense but thats the most commonly generic untrue statement you could possibly make. Thats like saying all FPSs are like COD and all RPGs are like Skyrim. Very seldom are there any completely fresh ideas in gaming. Alot of new games take ideas originally seen in older games and tweaks it a bit. Thats has ALWAYS been the way most mainstream games have been. Example being you could trace the lineage of FPSs back to Wolfenstein 3D.

On a more positive note im really looking forward to Guild Wars 2. Cant wait for that to come out! :sweatdrop:
 

clancy2k

Bronze Level Poster
I have owned all of the phats except blue lol. And i must disagree with your comment on Rift, i played it for a while when it was released, as it promised a brand new mmo experience.. but that didn't happen.. it's a Wow clone in every way... the games moto' was "You're not in Azeroth anymore" Hahaha... I think that speaks for itself. The only thing that's diffrent is the rift event system.. wich got boring after the first few you did. then the rest of the game is just a poor mans Wow. Ever since Wow started pulling in 100's of million of dollars a month in subscriptions, doezens of clones were made to tap into these profits. and i'm afraid Rift is just one of them. In my opinion
 
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clancy2k

Bronze Level Poster
Deklore, you say you would NOT recommend RS to anyone today.. but give no reason for this? Just because you are bored of it doesn't mean a new player can't join the game and get great experiances with it.. Also, what is this pay to win nonsence? Every single MMO has chinese gold farmers spamming the chat selling Gold.
 

Wozza63

Biblical Poster
Personally, I also wouldn't recommend starting a RS account now, everytime I go on there to see what its like I dont have a clue whats going on, you need to be playing regularly to learn how to play the game properly and its gonna take you 10hrs of playing just to know what you are doing

And by pay to win, he doesn't mean the gold spammers, he means membership, the people who pay always have an advantage over those who are free members, hence why its pay to win, whereas WoW for example, everyone has to pay, therefore its a level playing field in the game, and anyone can be the best
 

Deklore

Bright Spark
Yeah i would not recommend Runescape to anyone starting out on MMOs. For a few reasons, 2 of them mentioned on my post in the first page. Its very dated and its a grindfest.
When i say dated, i dont just mean the graphics. The gameplay doesnt lend itself to being helped, but rather being scammed. For newbies i think its a steep learning curve that doesnt need to be there and that isnt there in more modern MMOs.

For me leveling up is a main part of why i like certain games (that and loot) and the leveling is just not rewarding in RS and its boring if you want to level which leads to grinding. Many MMOs now have avoided the danger of having to grind, but its still very prevalent in RS as it would be because the core gameplay hasnt changed in years. I mean isnt this game older than WoW?

Yes i did enjoy playing it. Yes i am bored of it now but with whats to offer out there nowadays its not a game i would recommend, especially to new MMO players.
 

Wozza63

Biblical Poster
Ok so I thought seeing as we were on the subject id have a quick look at the game to see whats happened, i didnt have a clue what was going on, and although the graphics arent as bad as i thought (i was actually surprised) they just dont run, I'm on a GTX570 and when turning the game practically grinds to a halt, i would expect that on the integrated graphics on my laptop not a £200 card
 

clancy2k

Bronze Level Poster
I don't understand how you can think it has a steep learning curve, it sort of contradicts you saying it's very dated etc. Being an old game and yeah it is pretty basic, but in my opinion that's what makes it so accessable to new players, because its so easy to play. I have an 8 year old cousin who plays, and he gets on fine. If you find this game difficult to play then you must be a bit.. "simple" lol no offence.

As for the pay-to-win, thanks for explaining that, members and non-members are isolated to their own servers, so there is no iteraction between people who pay and people who don't. I must strongly disagree with your reasons for not starting as a new player. It was made 15 years ago yes, it's a pretty old game, but that doesn't take away any of the fun factor of the gameplay. The game is constantly updated with better game mechanics and graphical updates, wich include an anti-aliasing option if you have the a card to run it. and yeah it's older than Wow, and has a very diffrent gameplay style, perhaps this is why you think it is "dated"?. As is said on a previous post, would you not reccomend someone playing FF7 because it's.. "dated"? Also, to say runescape is a "grindfest" and give that as a reason to not play it as a bit silly really because lets face it, every MMO is a grind fest.

I think Wow and Rift etc are more for hardcore dungeon raiders etc, to get geared up with the best epics etc you need to grind instances with a clan wich are usualy full of annoying nerds wich gets even more annoying when they scream down the mic on TeamSpeek lol. This is what ruined Wow for me.. leveling up was fun, but grinding the instances bored the hell out of me. None of that nonsence on Runescape, Although there are some team oriented mini-games wich can be fun, plus a few boss monster that are easier taken down with a team. I think it's a much slower pace and softcore MMO and I gues in general it's a more solo oriented MMO, wich is probbaly why i prefer it.

Finaly, Although we can't agree on whether a new player should try Runescape or not. I think it's more important for a new player of any game to try it an judge for themselfs whether it's going to be a game they will enjoy or not, although other peoples opinions and experiences can be a helpful deciding factor.
 
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DeadEyeDuk

Superhero Level Poster
You just lost the thread clancy :) You called WoW and Rift "hardcore"...they are anything but that, in fact that is the very last thing they are :D

(all in good spirits this remember! :D )
 

Deklore

Bright Spark
I dont see how "steep learning curve" can contradict me saying the game is dated. Alot of older games, in particular RPGs (online or not) had steep learning curves - certainly compared to most games today which practically hold your hand every step of the way.

Yes its simple to get into, but beyond the tutorial showing you how to attack, fish, etc. The game doesnt tell you much at all. As you have said there is so much content in the game, but i bet your 8yr old cousin wont know 50% of what the game has to offer and if he does its because someone has told him.
Also the steep learning curve applies to how you interact with other players. when i started playing trade scamming was a popular thing, so was luring new players out into the wilderness to PK them. Okay these are things you and i know plenty about but to a new player who doesnt know much and relies on other players for guidance, this sort of malicious play was abundant.
If you were a high level player you would have got used to 100s of questions asking how you did this or how you got that. There really isnt anywhere you can go to find out yourself except from other people which isnt a newbie freindly environment.

Also my opinion of WoW differs from yours. My opinion is that WoW was designed to be less hardcore and more accessable for the masses. Thats why you have so many people playing it.
 

Tom DWC

Moderator
Moderator
The game is constantly updated with better game mechanics and graphical updates, wich include an anti-aliasing option if you have the a card to run it.

Though for 90% of people this reduces the game to around 10fps or less everytime you move or pan the camera, unfortunately.
 

Eliot_D

Member
My friend says the Runescape community has changed in recent years as well, it's a very hostile environment, although obviously that won't be unique to Runescape. Also my friend often rants about the customer support as it's very much non existent. Take Glitches for example - Duel arena ones in particular, people staking large amounts can basically be scammed for their items and Jagex will do nothing about it.
 
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