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[SpyderTracks]

Jack of all trades, master of none. Most of the tools are already built into windows and the ones that aren't you don't need.

Oh, was that that crappy windows clean up tool that Microsoft pushed out?

I would recommend NOT using it, there's a lot of damage it can do, it's merely shortcuts to standard things that you should know as a normal part of windows management, but it's not well written and can actually cause quite a lot of damage as some parts just don't work properly.

 

[carlos726811]

I already downloaded Microsoft PC manager. I have also downloaded Microsoft wintoy from Microsoft app store

Wintoy let's you run scannow and other stuff rather than put command in cmd.

U can also with wintoy uninstall apps that won't let you uninstall stuff from add or remove programme. If u not heard of it or seen it before. Worth downloading

 

[stegor]

Maybe Windows should come with a description: "Warning: This is not a toy"

 

[ubuysa]

I already downloaded Microsoft PC manager. I have also downloaded Microsoft wintoy from Microsoft app store

Wintoy let's you run scannow and other stuff rather than put command in cmd.

U can also with wintoy uninstall apps that won't let you uninstall stuff from add or remove programme. If u not heard of it or seen it before. Worth downloading

Wintoy is NOT a Microsoft app, it's author is someone called Bogdan Pătrăucean - whoever he is. It's yet another 'magic bullet' that claims to make your PC faster/safer/cleaner and which is just more unnecessary snake oil. It has no place on a properly managed Windows system IMO.

PC Manager is a Microsoft app but it too is not needed and is yet another app claiming to improve performance/security/management. It's neither necessary nor recommended.

Learn how to manage your Windows system properly yourself - especially if you buy a custom build which generally requires a more experienced user and better management.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Wintoy is NOT a Microsoft app, it's author is someone called Bogdan Pătrăucean - whoever he is. It's yet another 'magic bullet' that claims to make your PC faster/safer/cleaner and which is just more unnecessary snake oil. It has no place on a properly managed Windows system IMO.

PC Manager is a Microsoft app but it too is not needed and is yet another app claiming to improve performance/security/management. It's neither necessary nor recommended.

Learn how to manage your Windows system properly yourself - especially if you buy a custom build which generally requires a more experienced user and better management.

💯 100%

 

[Matxer]

I think it depends on the skill of the user. Windows system engineer level (Spyder, Ubu...) don't need these tools but 90% of PC users do.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I think it depends on the skill of the user. Windows system engineer level (Spyder, Ubu...) don't need these tools but 90% of PC users do.

They don't though, they just need to learn to manage windows as any user does. With anything you learn.

I didn't work with computers for years after I started messing around with them, I got into computers as a profession because I enjoyed discovering and learning about them in my personal life. I knew how to configure windows and build PC's a good decade before I started working in IT.

 

[ubuysa]

I think it depends on the skill of the user. Windows system engineer level (Spyder, Ubu...) don't need these tools but 90% of PC users do.

No, they need to learn how to properly use the equipment that they have - especially if they have gone to the trouble and expense of specing up a custom build. They also need to follow a few simple rules...

1. If you don't know what you're doing then leave things alone. Windows works just fine out of the box.
2. Never blindly follow advice you might find on the Internet. Ever.
3. Ask questions. That how we all learned. Nobody minds silly questions, they are more easily handled than silly mistakes. @SpyderTracks, myself, and the other more knowledgeable people on here are still asking questions. Nobody knows everything.
4. You pack your own parachute. That means never do anything that you can't undo, and always leave yourself a way back to where you came from.
5. Backup. Backup. And backup again. You can never have too many backups.
6. Never use tune-up tools, management tools, security tools, registry cleaners, and the like unless you know exactly what they are doing, why they are doing it, and what difference you expect to see.
7. Ask questions. I said that already but it's probably the most important advice on here.

 

[Matxer]

They need to learn but they don't, 90% of us don't.

 

[SpyderTracks]

They need to learn but they don't, 90% of us don't.

Yeah, but that won't do it on a custom chassis, you can't get by and get the performance available on the system by not knowing this stuff.

You're going to struggle with any custom system unless you're willing to upskill, there's no point sugarcoating that. If you're unwilling to learn, then you're better off with a branded system because you'll never get the performance available if you're not willing to learn how to manage windows, that's just a fact.

People don't understand the difference between custom chassis and branded.

On a branded, like Dell, Asus, etc, they make the boards, they either make all the components like networking, bluetooth etc, or they specifically fit a particular 3rd party manufacturers component like Intel wifi or something. They'll specify the drives that are used, it's all manufactured to work with those components. Often these days, even the basic peripherals like wifi and even SSD's are soldered onto the board and not replaceable, they're not modular components anymore.

A custom chassis is not the same. A Custom chassis is simply the motherboard, keyboard, chassis and GPU, the rest can be fitted as you like from any manufacturer. In such, they have to work with a much more broad set of components and as such take more care and knowledge to keep working properly, and will likely be more affected by buggy updates than a branded system.

You really need to buy what you're suited to, it's just a simple fact that a custom chassis requires higher technical ability. People just see the price and get greedy, often they'll actually get less value as they're missing out on a substantial amount of performance they've paid for through negligent treatment of the system.

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