Video Editing Laptop

[Scott]

I wouldn't get too caught up in the 3070 vs 3080 when it comes to video editing. They are both insanely powerful chips for that usage and, as described above, they only really come into play for effects. The actual rendering is done by the CPU, which is where the AMD will shine.

 

[sck451]

I wouldn't get too caught up in the 3070 vs 3080 when it comes to video editing. They are both insanely powerful chips for that usage and, as described above, they only really come into play for effects. The actual rendering is done by the CPU, which is where the AMD will shine.

That's actually not so true any more: since last year, Premiere Pro now heavily uses the GPU (both CUDA and NVENC) in video rendering, even without the GPU effects. That said, the 3070, even the mobile one, will be great for this purpose; there are diminishing returns at the top end.

Here's an interesting article from Puget about these changes and how they affect video editing PCs.

 

[Scott]

That's actually not so true any more: since last year, Premiere Pro now heavily uses the GPU (both CUDA and NVENC) in video rendering, even without the GPU effects. That said, the 3070, even the mobile one, will be great for this purpose; there are diminishing returns at the top end.

Here's an interesting article from Puget about these changes and how they affect video editing PCs.

Ooooo that's really interesting then. I'm off for a read.

The last time I had a discussion about this sort of thing it was from a user that tried, I believe, the 5950X vs the 3090 for rendering and the 5950X made the 3090 look like it was standing still

 

[sck451]

Ooooo that's really interesting then. I'm off for a read.

The last time I had a discussion about this sort of thing it was from a user that tried, I believe, the 5950X vs the 3090 for rendering and the 5950X made the 3090 look like it was standing still

Oh, you still want All The Cores (it's GPU accelerated encoding, rather than GPU encoding per se), but the GPU is much more of a consideration than before. Sadly the article pre-dates the 3000-series GPUs and the 5000 CPUs.

 

[Scott]

Edit: Having a look at it, the massive jump from the 2070 to the 2080Ti only really showed significant improvement on the Effects (as expected). With that in mind I still wouldn't recommend the price of the 3080 mobile chip over the 3070 mobile chip. The difference isn't going to be all that much and the price difference is significant. Couple into that the fact that with the 3080 comes the Intel..... IMO it's going to have a bigger impact to go with the AMD & the 3070.

 

[sck451]

Edit: Having a look at it, the massive jump from the 2070 to the 2080Ti only really showed significant improvement on the Effects (as expected). With that in mind I still wouldn't recommend the price of the 3080 mobile chip over the 3070 mobile chip. The difference isn't going to be all that much and the price difference is significant. Couple into that the fact that with the 3080 comes the Intel..... IMO it's going to have a bigger impact to go with the AMD & the 3070.

Oh, 100% agreed.

 

[Scott]

Oh, 100% agreed.

It's great that the software makes more use of the hardware now though. In the past I've been loathe to recommend the higher end cards for video editing due to the limitations but this will make a difference for the larger budgets for sure.

 

[SpyderTracks]

So in an ideal world, you would perhaps suggest the 5900HX paired with the RTX3080? It's a shame that PCS aren't offering that as an option at the moment.. Based on what you're saying, I'm now leaning towards the 5900HX combined with the 3070. The only concern that I have is that with each iteration of Premiere Pro, it seems that the GPU is usually the first component to become outdated. (I currently can't run the latest version of Premiere on my machine due to the old GPU, meaning I've actually had to lose out on jobs from potential clients). I'm obviously wanting it to have as long a life as possible before needing to upgrade again. In your estimation, what would you say the difference was between the 3070 and 3080 in extending the lifespan of the machine?

Also, am I correct in my understanding that the USB-C port can be used as a Thunderbolt port in an Intel machine, but not an AMD machine?

Cheers for the help!

The GPU will be the first unsupported component in any build pretty much. Graphical technology moves like lightening. This is why laptops are generally a bad idea as a production machine as they can’t be upgraded and have poor cooling and power limitations affecting performance compared to a desktop. They’re also far more expensive than a desktop equivalent.

But either the 3070 or 3080 are the same generation so both would become unsupported at the same time as they’re the same architectures, so it doesn’t make a difference in that respect.

And yes, only the Intel variant has thunderbolt support.

 

[AJM]

Final question, hopefully!

Out of the following four chassis, which would be your preference for the spec discussed above. They all come to roughly the same price.

15.6" Recoil
15.6" Ionico
17.3" Valeon
17.3" Ionico

Cheers!

 

[SpyderTracks]

Final question, hopefully!

Out of the following four chassis, which would be your preference for the spec discussed above. They all come to roughly the same price.

15.6" Recoil
15.6" Ionico
17.3" Valeon
17.3" Ionico

Cheers!

The Valeon or Ionico with AMD processors

 

[AJM]

The Valeon or Ionico with AMD processors

Thanks! I assume you're meaning the 17.3"? Is the reason the thermals?