Something missed in this build?

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TobSko

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Well this is my first post on the forum and i know some about building a PC but i would still call it being on a novice level on it so i would really appreciate if somebody who knows how a PC should be configured could give me input on if this rig looks OK.
OBS! I will edit this comment if things change, my mind change about the configuration and the price movement of the hardware, if any. Just to reflect the current situation. I hope it´s not confusing and it seems to be the best.
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH RGB GAMING CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8 Core (3.6GHz @ up to 4.3GHz)
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 GAMING X: ATX (USB 3.2 Gen 1, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
Asus Xonar SE 5.1-Channel Gaming Audio Card
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
Sweden/Sverige - Swedish Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
4 - 5 DAY DELIVERY TO SWEDEN
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

20.943.00 :- Swedish crowns (including shipment and VAT). Approximately 2.535 euros then, at this point but i must wait to place this order. I expect to do it in 10 days since i´m waiting on a refund for another PC i was dumb enough to buy "as is" from Inet and that was the last time i was cheap on expensive stuff.

Edit and a P.S
What i haven´t said already is that i have looked into each hardwares benefits and drawbacks when it comes to the CPU, graphic card and RAM memory. Those parts are expensive and over the top for just ANY game there is today, you will get high, high high FPS in any game. What i mostly ask for is the configuration otherwise in total. Power supply sufficient and such, motherboard and all other parts of this build is appreciated and will be read by me.

Thank you
 
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TobSko

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Yeah i went through that procedure but somewhere it resets and is not saved anywhere in my profile and it timeouts and gets lost so i went through the PC configure several times, becomes a different build each and every time as well hehe. Undecided on it of course. But these builders, PC Specialist, seems more serious about doing it than the average supermarket builds. I´m about to cancel on one expensive deal since they at first acted like rookies and some Walmart noobs.
Edit: Meaning; So i´m about to put down my trust into PC Specialists for my deal on a super rig, well almost. Second to the best build. you´ll see, eventually. :)

Good day!
 
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TobSko

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Now i know. You have to be logged in to make the PC configuration valid and not lost? That´s it? Is it?
Yaaaaaaay! Stupid me i figured it out, i usually do, eventually. I´ll be back.
 
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TobSko

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Still haven´t figured out how to put in the quote here but i have the number though: 1867361

And along with that order which i hope to place soon i have just a few questions, probably not before 5 days but anyway. And it´s about the partitions that will be created on it and the extra SSD unit, i was in the chat with the support and she suggested to me to get one external Samsung SSD unit but upon making the partitions the OS will end up on the internal disks partition 1 and why i should get that external one i forgot, good to have though. Also i split the disk in half there when making the quote, half\half sized partitions, good that or not?

And the Swedish version of PC Specialist takes me automatically to the UK forum since that´s both websites combined only forum?
 
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TobSko

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Can´t find my quote on account page nor the profile page, still i got an update about it in my e-mail, two, about it being done and updated.
Opens in new page though: https://www.pcspecialist.se/sparade-inställningar/amd-am4-overclocked/sZZYutuDXv/

Yes, and it´s that initial question again when PC configuring if i want the OS installed on the Samsung external disk or not, i click for the external one, but upon going through the partition page of the internal disk where it asks about their both sizes it indicates that the OS will end up on partition 1 that automatically will become the first disk which is the internal hard drive? Well the question here then is that it´s a conflict in the logic of it, not that partition one is automatically on the first internal disk. Well am i making it clear or i´m confusing it here? Sorry

Edit: And that procedure to get the quote up on the forum is HOPELESS, just takes me to PCS homepage, first page. Do you actually have to place the order then?
I´m not daft, this is just over the top of what´s logical.
Edit again, a copy paste of that pages text:
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH RGB GAMING CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8 Core (3.6GHz @ up to 4.3GHz)
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 GAMING X: ATX (USB 3.2 Gen 1, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
Asus Xonar SE 5.1-Channel Gaming Audio Card
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
Sweden/Sverige - Swedish Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
4 - 5 DAY DELIVERY TO SWEDEN
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Promotional Item
Get eFootball PES 2021 Season Update for PC with select SAMSUNG SSDs!
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - Sweden


I did a copy paste of it
 
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TobSko

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But is it a conflict then with when i ( or rather PC Specialist) partition the internal hard drive so it then instead will put the OS on that one? It says it will put it on partition 1 on the webbpage and then points to that that one is on the internal hard drive, a conflict there with what is what you can decide to put it in the previous screen and asks about where to put the OS as well.
I want it the best way of course.

I will use the PC for moderately gaming, none to a lot, depends on the rotten games they usually produce these days, really. I think there could be more and better ones. But otherwise for surfing and the ordinary stuff. And my monitor is: AOC 24G2W1G4
Page to where it shows a bit more what it is, it´s a 23.8 inch screen i think or 24 then as the product name indicates:
us.aoc.com

24G2 | AOC Monitors

24G2
us.aoc.com us.aoc.com
That page may not be just tech stuff now so here:
  • Resolution1920x1080
  • Refresh rate144Hz
  • Response Time (MPRT)1 ms
  • Panel Type IPS
 
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TobSko

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Update on the issue:
No, i went through the same procedure again just to check what i might have missed and the webbpage DO ask me "Are you sure you wish to cancel the hard drive/SSD partitions?" upon clicking on the "set partitions" button in the configuration, but it means i can´t partition the mechanical drive as it´s called there then?

Edit: To amplify the issue the setup page instructions says:
1.If you are ordering an operating system from us, this will be installed on to the 1st partition you specify for your first hard drive/SSD.

So it seems it will go back on the first choice to put in on any other disk if partitioning the primary disk as well.
 
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TobSko

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Nursemorph said:
Update: Now I understand...I see where the Partition option is...never even paid any attention to it before as I don't see the point in partitioning personally.

If you choose partitioning, then it will partition whatever drive you put Windows on so that Windows has it's own partition on said drive. It sounds like you are trying to partition the storage drive which they won't do if Windows isn't being put on it
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I hear you there on your input\feedback on this overkill power PC. But really, i can afford it and i just bought this monitor and i am in a way getting ahead of what i used to have on all of it. Just recently i had one 15 inch fatty monitor, and though i just bought this monitor i for sure will have great FPS rate in game. And in games like PUBG if you know about it and i actually get that or the equivalent of that one, it will make a difference. It´s just not those 1440p there and though i appreciate the input, one 2070s it will be. I love what i see it can do compared to all cards, almost as good as one RTX3080 some testers say, just a lot cheaper.

But are you sure that the primary disk, though the OS isn´t on it but rather on the M.2 external one then, won´t benefit from getting partitioned as huge as it is? Two terrabytes of space and all. I will now do a search on the webb about it as well as i recollect that i saw it could have it´s benefits splitting such a huge disk at least in half. Just to make sure, i do hear what you say and it´s not like i don´t take it in and listen, thank you for your input and all it´s appreciated.

20.535.00 Swedish crowns in total for this PC (including shipment and VAT), but i have 2 quotes saved. Better remove one of them.
Two quotes is saved when not logged in, one quote there showing if logged in. Would be good if upon the first page of the quote there was a delete button for it, just for convenience.

P.S
And is it me, or is the price changing for a configuration for no apparent reason? Something is there and adjusts the price though i have NOT adjusted anything in the hardware setup at all. I put this in as a footnote as i´m not always too sure of myself. I do tend to make sure what´s what in the end though. To avoid any mistakes.

And FOOTNOTE: If the keyboard would not be included with all builds but be optional that would at least please me since i will have 3 keyboards then including this one. One of the best Corsair Gaming K68 RGB MX Red keyboards, it gets high scores from most, my old unlit Lenovo standard one and what kind of keyboard that ships with this one eventually. I would rather pass on it to cut the cost of this monster PC´s total cost ;)
 
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TobSko

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No it´s right, the price change by the hour and not so little as well. Like 300 crowns in just a couple of hours and what´s up with that?
I as well "screwed" around with the power supply i want. I plan to perhaps upgrade the PC and a 650W one instead.
Total of: 20 943,00 kr
Without the power supply change it went up to 20 821,00 kr inc. VAT, last post edited 36 minutes ago. Now that seems like the price follow some stock Nasdaq price setting live or something? Just asking.
And NO! The Windows OS language defaults to English speaking language every time a change is applied to the quote but i´m not anything but a Swede, not good that.
 
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If you want the non windows drive partitioned and PCS wont do it, you can always do it yourself in disk management once you have the PC
 
SpyderTracks

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Really, you shouldn’t be partitioning drives these days, and certainly not SSD’s. If you’re looking to partition it suggests your drive setup isn’t suitable.
 
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TobSko said:
No it´s right, the price change by the hour and not so little as well. Like 300 crowns in just a couple of hours and what´s up with that?
I as well "screwed" around with the power supply i want. I plan to perhaps upgrade the PC and a 650W one instead.
Total of: 20 943,00 kr
Without the power supply change it went up to 20 821,00 kr inc. VAT, last post edited 36 minutes ago. Now that seems like the price follow some stock Nasdaq price setting live or something? Just asking.
And NO! The Windows OS language defaults to English speaking language every time a change is applied to the quote but i´m not anything but a Swede, not good that.
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Are you on the Swedish part of the website when you are configuration the specification? It normally defaults to the language site or the language shown in the top navigation bar. Alternatively if you are clicking on any of the links on the forum then they will be set up for UK not Swedish so that could be a cause.

If you are on the Swedish site and the language at the top is set to Swedish then let me know and I will raise it with the site team.
 
ubuysa

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SpyderTracks said:
Really, you shouldn’t be partitioning drives these days, and certainly not SSD’s. If you’re looking to partition it suggests your drive setup isn’t suitable.
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I'm not in complete agreement with this. Partitioning is a useful data organisational tool, even on an SSD, and as long as you're aware of the performance disadvantages of partitioning (mostly increased I/O queuing) it's still a valid tool. I would most certainly agree that when speccing up a new PC it's much wiser to specify multiple drives rather than partition.
 
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