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I think you might be getting your CPU's and your GPU's muddled up.
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No I am not.
I have watched test benchmark data where the user had all the same components apart from CPU and the 7800x3d got much higher frame rates than 7600x.
TonyCarter
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Usually to get CPU gaming benchmarks they use an RTX4090 so that the GPU is not the bottleneck.
Depending on the game, settings & resolution, the CPU or the GPU can be the bottleneck. At 1080P low it will be the CPU (and a beefier GPU won’t offer more FPS)…at 4K ultra it tends to be the GPU (so a lower end CPU doesn’t impact the FPS as much).
But real world usage & performance is much more nuanced than that.
If the CPU means a 33% drop in performance then that's a huge bottleneck on the system. If you are happy with the 130FPS average then save money on the GPU over the CPU. The situation you are describing makes absolutely no sense as the last thing you want to be is CPU limited, it just shows a massive overspend on the GPU.
When speccing a system it's typically accepted that the GPU will be out of date long before the CPU will. The GPU you don't overspend on, you go for exactly what you want and need right now. Any excess cash remaining by saving on the GPU gets put towards the next GPU or propping up the rest of the system. WIth the CPU, you don't want to be changing these outside of generation leaps. If you can't afford the 7800X3D then the 7700 would be the next level down. I don't think anyone would recommend the 7600 as it's only a 6 core chip and games nowadays are making great use of 8 cores.
At the end of the day, you can talk yourself into whatever you want and justify it however you wish. I would debate to the ends of the earth with anyone that said the 7600 was a more sensible choice than the 7800X3D for gaming. There isn't a single scenario that makes sense outside of affordability. If it can't be afforded, the compromise is the GPU first and the CPU last.
When speccing a system it's typically accepted that the GPU will be out of date long before the CPU will. The GPU you don't overspend on, you go for exactly what you want and need right now. Any excess cash remaining by saving on the GPU gets put towards the next GPU or propping up the rest of the system. WIth the CPU, you don't want to be changing these outside of generation leaps. If you can't afford the 7800X3D then the 7700 would be the next level down. I don't think anyone would recommend the 7600 as it's only a 6 core chip and games nowadays are making great use of 8 cores.
At the end of the day, you can talk yourself into whatever you want and justify it however you wish. I would debate to the ends of the earth with anyone that said the 7600 was a more sensible choice than the 7800X3D for gaming. There isn't a single scenario that makes sense outside of affordability. If it can't be afforded, the compromise is the GPU first and the CPU last.
steventurnerpro
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Just to let you all know, PC specialist have confirmed that they are expecting a new batch of PSU's roughly mid October.
They will be Corsair RMX - ATX 3.1 in both 1000w and 850w.
I know there was a lot of posts suggesting a 1200w based purely on the fact it was ATX 3.1 and there wasn't a middle ground option, so this information might be useful for some.
They will be Corsair RMX - ATX 3.1 in both 1000w and 850w.
I know there was a lot of posts suggesting a 1200w based purely on the fact it was ATX 3.1 and there wasn't a middle ground option, so this information might be useful for some.
SpyderTracks
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Excellent news, thanks for posting it!
In case anyone reads this and not sure of the significance:
Modern GPU's (really since we moved to Ray Tracing capable versions with hardware cores) suffer from what's called Transient Spikes and can actually reach double their TDP in micro spikes (1200W for a 4090)
The older ATX2 PSUs max rating was just that, that was the maximum wattage the PSU could handle before it cut out
ATX3 actually factors in Transient Spikes, and apparently allows for +50% of it's rating, so if you have a 750W PSU, it can cope with transient spikes up to 1125W (I previously mistakenly thought this was double).
Intel ATX 3.0 - A MAJOR Misconception! - Hardware Busters
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Ekans2011
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Great; it would be perfect if PCS began highlighting ATX versions on the configurator.
SpyderTracks
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100%Great; it would be perfect if PCS began highlighting ATX versions on the configurator.