Recoil VII 17" 2023 In-Depth Review

John DM

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Recoil Series: 17" Matte QHD 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1600)
Intel® Core™ i9 24 Core Processor 13900HX (5.4GHz Turbo)
64GB Corsair 4800MHz SODIMM DDR5 (2 x 32GB)
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4090 - 16.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
Liquid Series® Laptop Cooling
PCS Liquid Series® Laptop Cooler
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Windows 11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
FAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH

Hi PCS Community

I just wanted to share my thoughts & experience with my purchase. I am a professional 3D artist, I work a lot in Blender & other 3D software so this machine will be my primary work horse replacing an older Dell G5 5500 series. I originally wrote a much longer review, but it went beyond the character limit allowed, I will be as brief but precise as I can. I have been using this machine & the Liquid Cooler Box (at the time of writing) for about 6 days. I realize there is not much detailed information available on this machine & peripheral so I have done my best to fill this void.

I write this review with the idea of the laptop & cooler box as one complete unit (its proprietary so logic is there)

Chassis: TongFang GM7PX9N - Sturdy aluminum frame with a thin matte rubber coating, not too much of a fingerprint sponge. Solid construction, lid has a sturdy, wide center hinge (very little screen flex, tight awn for most of the travel way). Good access to ports (apart from the USB-C at the back by the cooling port, i think odd choice?), wide rubber feet, has good surface traction.

Screen: WQXGA panel, bit dim for daytime work at times (someone posted on this forum that its 350nits, I cannot verify but my 2020 MacBook Air is 400nits and it definitely not as bright) - but screen & color quality are very similar. Would've liked to have known the DPI. Still not bad, but for chassis starting alone at 1570, could've been a better panel (but 240hz refresh is monster good, trade off). There are Color Enhancements in the Control Center app, but this is for personal aesthetic only (movies, games etc), if doing design work it screws with the colour space's pallet. For design work default colour calibration is fine.

Keyboard: Echo similar sentiments as others, not the best - but it's not bad either. Nice travel on the keys, reduced number pad, keys bit too mushy but still good for regular every-day typing. Rubber matte coating doesn't feel durable (very gentle scratch test with nail on letter cutout) not sure how well it'll hold in the long run. Backlit 4 zone RGB is nice, colours dont punch through the lettering like in some of TongFang's visual marketing material for this chassis, but nice around the cap edges. No LED indicators on cap/num, on-screen prompts instead - acceptable compromise.

TongFang also offer a mechanical keyboard with this chassis I believe, would've been nice to have had the same choice, hopefully maybe an upgrade in the future for some. I'm not much of a gamer, but many who will buy this laptop might be, so it's good to bare in mind for the vendor.

Trackpad: Lovely, wide & has a good tactile press - think I read somewhere it has a glass panel on it (like MacBook) - if it does, its thin but its nice feeling. Two touch sensor switches on the top corners - no documentation saying what it does but its easy - right disables right half of the trackpad (make only half space), left turns trackpad off (also option in Control Center app though).

Thermals: Definitely gets hot inside from feeling the air out the side vents (when CPU/GPU has been near 100% in use), but I cannot speak for it without the Liquid Cooler Box & the use of a laptop cooler. Both has helped keep this machine at optimal temperatures, keyboard has gotten comfortably warm but never hot (Dell G5 keyboard got extremely warm, very uncomfortable, miserable experience using it). Without the external cooling solutions I am using, this probably does get quite hot and maybe even uncomfortable to use/type when it's on a full work load.

Sound: Basic, but the Nahimic audio drivers definitely help deliver clearer sound, can notice the quality difference through my bluetooth speaker (I highly doubt the 2x2W tweeters inside are any different from a hardware stand point than the 2x2W tweeters in the Dell). It's probably those drivers.

Battery Life: To be expected with a machine of this caliber. Won't go very far for very long without needing a wall socket. Wish Control Center app had better battery customizations - has only 3 modes, High Capacity, Stationary & Balanced. Little description, Stationary supposedly best for long term DC use... but even at 100% battery stay on charge. Deeper customizations (being able to set charge % & switch to DC use only) is sorely missed. Only thing I miss about the Dell.

Also noticed the chassis power LED only has white light for when on, and red light if needing to charge. Third light would be nice to let you know when the cable is disconnected/not plugged in. Might just be mine, but the kettle cable for the transformer is wobbly, looks like pins might be in but they might not be, no snug fit, just bit loose. Only noticed when got a battery warning on desktop that cells were very low. Only way to tell if laptop power connected/disconnected is through the taskbar icon (whether charging symbol there or not).

Please better solutions & better battery customizations as maybe future Control Center update.

Software Installation: Had problems with Windows at first - like others - Microsoft Store wasn't working properly. Trickle downloads which froze, couldn't update any apps. Got blue screens when I tried to update some drivers through PC Soft Driver Updater (PCS recommendation) (free version update one at a time then restart, eventually restarted to blue screens and wouldn't load Windows at all), went through BitLocker few times (Fix Errors & System Checkpoints bugged out on me also). Just reset Windows in the end, kept personal files and refreshed the install.

All problems solved. Microsoft Store works. Checked drivers, all fine, just kept the ones Window's decided to use instead of fiddling. No problems since. Will just do manual updates through Device Manager if needed - normally Window's Updates should do it just fine anyway.

I still had ace up sleeve because paid for backup USB recovery, and if all else failed I knew PCS support would help me. I was sure this was a software issue, I have faith in PCS technicians so really didn't suspect it to be hardware.

Control Center App: Bit sparse, not great customizations. Very basic, most things on there can do in Windows, just there mostly to provide control for the Liquid Cooler Box & the laptops LED (4 zone keyboard & strip at the back) not very impressive functionality. Can set the keyboard to Music though so lights up like audio synthesizer, 10 minutes of silly fun. Missing some of the more premium software features available on other gaming laptops. Thankfully this could just be updated in future to better versions with more capability.

Liquid Cooler Box: Loud - very loud - & fan inside sounds cheap - but it works great, it cools the laptop down very well (CPU/GPU stayed around 70c at bursts of 100% usage (with third party cooling stand also). As mentioned, keyboard stays comfortable. Makes the laptop run quieter, but tranquility lost by the buzz of the Cooler Box fan! Nice cold air blasts from large grills either side (hopefully easy to clean out dust with sprayduster), can hear the water going through the pipes also (like those tabletop water fountains). Model that comes with it a upgraded model than the one in the instructions sent via email from PCS, this one upgraded version with magnetic connectors. Was bit unsure at first, contacted PCS, spoke to tech support who assured me its use & how to drain out water from the laptop afterward (to me written instructions were still a bit unclear).

So far so good. Would recommend owning (and buying a laptop cooler also as an additional level of support) - also, PCS sent free bottle of distilled water, was very happy didn't have to go out suddenly and buy it (did not know it needed distilled water until emailed instructions). Would be nice to have this information when ordering perhaps (needs distilled water + PCS send you some).

Filled it to full last Thursday (15/06) and at time of writing, still have half tank. Will change water soon, but lasts much longer than thought.

Build Time & Delivery: Flawless. Assembled & tested within two days, arrived before 9am on day three. Well packaged, not over-bloated and loved inclusion of physical PCS handbook. Speed of service was amazing.

Conclusion: At this price point, nothing else on the market can touch the performance capability. Lacking some software & physical bells & whistles more associated with laptops at this value, but its a extremely powerful machine where it counts. I do bare in mind the cost is also bore in the expert labor & craftmanship delivered by PCS engineers. I Would seriously recommend external cooling solutions with it (hopefully a v3 of the cooler box in future that's much quieter). I've comfortably been working on this machine for nigh on past week, and writing this review on it has been enjoyable. Would only recommend this machine to people in similar professions as myself or for professional gamers. Over-all very happy with my purchase - and knowing I have 2 years of Gold warranty & full 1 year dead pixel guarantee also incase of any mishaps is some good peace of mind as this machine will be put through its paces in the years to come.

Overall Score: 8.5/10 (Laptop, Cooler Box & Service aggregated)
 

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SpyderTracks

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Really thorough critique, very well put, thanks so much for taking the time, there hasn't been so much specific feedback on this model especially with the watercooler unit, so this is invaluable for people interested.
 

John DM

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Review Update:

Control Center App - At work today I discovered the performance settings properly, blimey! Over clocking, boosting, oh my! Thermals are even lower, fan inside is going like crazy (from boost), rendering in Blender at the moment and it's devouring it (also managed to hoover up all 16GB of VRAM). Definitely more bite inside this app than originally thought, maybe not as sparse as stated. Was like finding the ''little red button'' in Men In Black 😁
 

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How would you say it is without the cooler? Right now i can get a competitor i7 with a 4080 and faster memory than the recoil (5600mhz) and 3 year upgraded support for under £2600. The actual laptop is under £2400

I'd also want to be using this laptop on a plane for long distance so no extra cooler performance is something I would be very interested in. As the other excels there too
 
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SpyderTracks

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How would you say it is without the cooler? Right now i can get a competitor i7 with a 4080 and faster memory than the recoil (5600mhz) and 3 year upgraded support for under £2600. The actual laptop is under £2400

I'd also want to be using this laptop on a plane for long distance so no extra cooler performance is something I would be very interested in. As the other excels there too
The recoil isn't a laptop, it's a desktop replacement, if you're intending using it on the go, it's likely not the right laptop.
 

Daniel.winyard

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Planning to use it for both. Guess it's not for me then
I use my 16inch recoil on the go a bit, still works well for me. But I have to drain the water from the pipes in the laptop every time I move it to go to work. The water cooler i still use at home. It also works well without out the water cooler as well. The water cooler greatly improves performance in gaming ranging from about 5% to 54% in the games I've tested in QHD. 15 % average in non dlls and 62% in dls
 

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So the cooling system fluid has to be fully drained every time you want to disconnect the cooling system to move the laptop? I was envisaging using the laptop hooked up to the cooling unit for gaming with a full docking set up on a desk in my bedroom, but being able to remove the laptop from the dock to use it for basic internet searching, word processing, sending emails etc in the living room/kitchen during the daytime. (i have carers during the day and sometimes need to be able to use my computer alongside them). Is this not going to be possible/realistically achievable with the cooling system? How much work is it to empty it out?
 

Bhuna50

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So the cooling system fluid has to be fully drained every time you want to disconnect the cooling system to move the laptop? I was envisaging using the laptop hooked up to the cooling unit for gaming with a full docking set up on a desk in my bedroom, but being able to remove the laptop from the dock to use it for basic internet searching, word processing, sending emails etc in the living room/kitchen during the daytime. (i have carers during the day and sometimes need to be able to use my computer alongside them). Is this not going to be possible/realistically achievable with the cooling system? How much work is it to empty it out?
Unfortunately the person who wrote the original review hasn’t logged into the forum since June. You might be better off phoning PCS or asking on the online chat to get some more details on how this is done if you need a quick answer.
 

SpyderTracks

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o the cooling system fluid has to be fully drained every time you want to disconnect the cooling system to move the laptop?
I'm not sure that's what they're implying, I think they mean it needs to be drained if you're travelling outside of the home so as not to spill during transport. In and around the house, you can just disconnect the water cooler loop and carry on as normal.
 

Daniel.winyard

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It works fine around the house but I drain it before i take it to the office which is a bout a 45 minute drive away. I wouldn't game with out draining it if i am not using the water cooling system i am sure heating trapped water in a cooling tube is not good for the processor. I didn't buy the cooler for three to four months so I know it games well without it. I am in my living room now and haven't drained it yet. have done some invoicing using excel today without it being docked as it were. low impact seems to be fine with the fans.
So the cooling system fluid has to be fully drained every time you want to disconnect the cooling system to move the laptop? I was envisaging using the laptop hooked up to the cooling unit for gaming with a full docking set up on a desk in my bedroom, but being able to remove the laptop from the dock to use it for basic internet searching, word processing, sending emails etc in the living room/kitchen during the daytime. (i have carers during the day and sometimes need to be able to use my computer alongside them). Is this not going to be possible/realistically achievable with the cooling system? How much work is it to empty it out?
 
It works fine around the house but I drain it before i take it to the office which is a bout a 45 minute drive away. I wouldn't game with out draining it if i am not using the water cooling system i am sure heating trapped water in a cooling tube is not good for the processor. I didn't buy the cooler for three to four months so I know it games well without it. I am in my living room now and haven't drained it yet. have done some invoicing using excel today without it being docked as it were. low impact seems to be fine with the fans.

thanks so much for this, it helps to have this kind of information from yourself and Spydertracks too- i also found a youtube video review of a similar if not identical laptop cooling unit which showed how it is hooked up and how you empty it for transport and i had come to a similar conclusion that it would probably be ok to transport around the home carefully without clearing the fluid, if i were just using it for basic word processing, dealing with emails and care package admin work.

It is also really reassuring to hear that your set up is happy enough gaming without the cooling system attached, as i had read reviews elsewhere saying basically the cooling system should come as standard, not as an optional extra and the laptop shouldn't be used without it, which concerned me a little.

Sorry for all the noob questions- this is my first ever custom built device and i haven't purchased a new computer since 2012 (for complicated reasons) so i am trying to learn as much as i can and do as much research as possible before i make that final decision that i can't go back on! I'm trying to design a system that is going to give me as much longevity and flexability with my disabilities as possible and i think that a docked laptop with cooling system is definitely looking to be the way forwards.

Im off to post my specs now for you all to inspect and give me your thoughts please!
 

Dany1429

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Review Update:

Control Center App - At work today I discovered the performance settings properly, blimey! Over clocking, boosting, oh my! Thermals are even lower, fan inside is going like crazy (from boost), rendering in Blender at the moment and it's devouring it (also managed to hoover up all 16GB of VRAM). Definitely more bite inside this app than originally thought, maybe not as sparse as stated. Was like finding the ''little red button'' in Men In Black 😁
Can you help me with some settings at control center? I have the same model,can you write me on watsapp? Thanks.
 

TonyCarter

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Can you help me with some settings at control center? I have the same model,can you write me on watsapp? Thanks.
If you get the account/warranty transferred, you can log into that account and then download the software yourself.

But this forum can’t help as we do not have access to your account or the software.
 

Martinr36

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or your friend can phone PCS, prove its his account then get everything transferred, including access to all the drivers you require
 

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