Recoil IV or Vyper III 15.6" laptops, best overall

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Delanno

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Hey everyone,
I'm also a Vyper III (the 15.6") owner for a few days now. But I have to say that I few a bit disappointed in some points here.
I do like the fact that the laptop is thin and light. But O think that in terms of design, keyboard and thermals it can be a bit disappointing.
I was wondering if I should return it and get a Recoil IV (15.6") instead.
So the question is, Does the Recoil IV offers more of a better finishing and primary, how much better are the Thermals on the Recoil IV?
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
 
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Bilal89

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Delanno said:
Hey everyone,
I'm also a Vyper III (the 15.6") owner for a few days now. But I have to say that I few a bit disappointed in some points here.
I do like the fact that the laptop is thin and light. But O think that in terms of design, keyboard and thermals it can be a bit disappointing.
I was wondering if I should return it and get a Recoil IV (15.6") instead.
So the question is, Does the Recoil IV offers more of a better finishing and primary, how much better are the Thermals on the Recoil IV?
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
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I also face the same issues very loud and hot plus my tracking pad is horrible not sure what to do regretting my vyper III purchase at the moment
 
SpyderTracks

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Bilal89 said:
I also face the same issues very loud and hot plus my tracking pad is horrible not sure what to do regretting my vyper III purchase at the moment
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To be fair, you posted you were having issues and then didn’t respond to requests for further information so not sure how we can help.
 
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Bilal89

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SpyderTracks said:
To be fair, you posted you were having issues and then didn’t respond to requests for further information so not sure how we can help.
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I think its better if I just return or try to return it atleast I doubt it can be fixed on forums its possibly the manufacture of the laptop itself its important people are made aware of the issues surrounding this vyper III laptop. I will try to do a review soon.
 
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Delanno

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O haven't done long hours of heavy games on it, but, with medium demanding games it already gets quite hot after 30 minutes or so.
I would like to know if the Recoil IV os any better, as the previous Recoil seemed to have a big iddue with heating as well.
Any thoughts about it? Would the Recoil IV 15.6 be a better buy?
When I was first looking at the two models one ot the Pcspecialist staff said that the Vyper would feel more premium as it has a magnesium alloy chassis. But I have to be honest, I am coming from a Lenovo of 7 years old, and my old laptop feels and looks so much better. It could be just me being annoying...
Any opinions welcome.
 
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Lemon_Haze

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guys but what did you expect buying thin & light lappy with i10? it is obvious it will run hot and throttle in heavier games, i would choose recoil iv anytime because of thickness, it will be cooler than 20mm chassis, thats for sure.
 
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Lemon_Haze said:
guys but what did you expect buying thin & light lappy with i10? it is obvious it will run hot and throttle in heavier games, i would choose recoil iv anytime because of thickness, it will be cooler than 20mm chassis, thats for sure.
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just to say, no one has reported throttling on this chassis yet, so that’s not accurate. If you are seeing throttling it’s because the cooling hasn’t been optimised, it shouldn’t be like that and there’s an issue that needs addressing.
 
Charlas

Charlas

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SpyderTracks said:
just to say, no one has reported throttling on this chassis yet, so that’s not accurate. If you are seeing throttling it’s because the cooling hasn’t been optimised, it shouldn’t be like that and there’s an issue that needs addressing.
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Kinda agree, we all know that no laptop on the market (or desktop pc for the most part) can run cpu/gpu full ball forever without throttling, however they shouldn't throttle instantly with just gaming loads that are usually pretty good at separating loads between gpu and cpu.

Also remember the Intel cpu's will only run at their high clocks for between 28 and 56 seconds anyhow, before throttling down and that the expected behavior from Intel (that's the TAU), so don't expect it to sit at 5.1ghz for long as that's it's TVB speed, and even that is only on the Turbo Boost 3 defined cores (max 2 if memory serves)

But no matter what chassis you use they will throttle, its just part of life with high perf laptops, high perf parts get hot, omen, alienware and everyone else has the same issues.

If its throttling instantly though, then something is wrong, and might be worth speaking to PCS to see if there's something not working as it should be.
 
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lewisclark607

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Paddy Baxter said:
Just been silently observing these discussions so far but I've just ordered the Recoil IV 15.6 because of the 240hz refresh and the overall look of the machine. Coming with a 2070 Super jammed inside :) I'll be putting it through some tests once it arrives
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Had my recoil for a few weeks now - I couldn’t be happier. It’s my first gaming laptop and replaced an eight year old Lenovo, so maybe my expectations were low, but the build quality is fantastic and the support I’ve received with setting it up second to none. I’m not a big gamer, the Witcher 3 and Bannerlord are probably the most gpu hungry games I own, but I had a big budget and do use my laptop for performing multiple tasks simultaneously so wanted a jet engine in a golf type of laptop! Having done my research, I realised that building my own rig with PCS would give the most bang for buck. I think some people are unaware with gaming laptops that you have to play about a bit to maximise performance and one size will not fit all with your games library - a bit of research and fiddling with fan curves etc will leave you with a great gaming experience. My temps are actually much better than I thought, 35 - 40 across the board when working. 60 - 75ish when gaming in full specs for most of my games. I find that for every hour of gaming if I use the boost button for five minutes I can keep temps around 68 degrees - which is frankly amazing. My wife says she doesn’t mind the five minutes of jet engine noise because it’s much quieter than the Lenovo. One more pro - I’ve never had a mechanical keyboard before, I do loads of typing in my job and can’t believe I’ve never used one it’s a dream. Oh and I always work with the coolmaster on, it’s absolutely worth twenty quid extra.

A wee side note - in the first week I had a few times where my gpu got to 95 degrees - I discovered it was the epic games store that was causing it, now I open it to launch and then close it again and haven’t seen a repeat since.
 
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Paddy Baxter

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lewisclark607 said:
Had my recoil for a few weeks now - I couldn’t be happier. It’s my first gaming laptop and replaced an eight year old Lenovo, so maybe my expectations were low, but the build quality is fantastic and the support I’ve received with setting it up second to none. I’m not a big gamer, the Witcher 3 and Bannerlord are probably the most gpu hungry games I own, but I had a big budget and do use my laptop for performing multiple tasks simultaneously so wanted a jet engine in a golf type of laptop! Having done my research, I realised that building my own rig with PCS would give the most bang for buck. I think some people are unaware with gaming laptops that you have to play about a bit to maximise performance and one size will not fit all with your games library - a bit of research and fiddling with fan curves etc will leave you with a great gaming experience. My temps are actually much better than I thought, 35 - 40 across the board when working. 60 - 75ish when gaming in full specs for most of my games. I find that for every hour of gaming if I use the boost button for five minutes I can keep temps around 68 degrees - which is frankly amazing. My wife says she doesn’t mind the five minutes of jet engine noise because it’s much quieter than the Lenovo. One more pro - I’ve never had a mechanical keyboard before, I do loads of typing in my job and can’t believe I’ve never used one it’s a dream. Oh and I always work with the coolmaster on, it’s absolutely worth twenty quid extra.

A wee side note - in the first week I had a few times where my gpu got to 95 degrees - I discovered it was the epic games store that was causing it, now I open it to launch and then close it again and haven’t seen a repeat since.
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Epic Store causing your GPU to overheat? That’s friggin bizarre. Anyway thanks for this reply, has me pumped for my laptop, which has just been dispatched by PCS.
 
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lewisclark607

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Paddy Baxter said:
Epic Store causing your GPU to overheat? That’s friggin bizarre. Anyway thanks for this reply, has me pumped for my laptop, which has just been dispatched by PCS.
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I know! But thermals has been so good - I was completely confused when twice it got so high with no games running, realised it was the only change I had made, since I switched it off and have only opened it to launch games since it hasn’t happened again... it could be coincidence, maybe I’ll fire it up later and see what happens :)
 
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Delanno

Active member
lewisclark607 said:
Had my recoil for a few weeks now - I couldn’t be happier. It’s my first gaming laptop and replaced an eight year old Lenovo, so maybe my expectations were low, but the build quality is fantastic and the support I’ve received with setting it up second to none. I’m not a big gamer, the Witcher 3 and Bannerlord are probably the most gpu hungry games I own, but I had a big budget and do use my laptop for performing multiple tasks simultaneously so wanted a jet engine in a golf type of laptop! Having done my research, I realised that building my own rig with PCS would give the most bang for buck. I think some people are unaware with gaming laptops that you have to play about a bit to maximise performance and one size will not fit all with your games library - a bit of research and fiddling with fan curves etc will leave you with a great gaming experience. My temps are actually much better than I thought, 35 - 40 across the board when working. 60 - 75ish when gaming in full specs for most of my games. I find that for every hour of gaming if I use the boost button for five minutes I can keep temps around 68 degrees - which is frankly amazing. My wife says she doesn’t mind the five minutes of jet engine noise because it’s much quieter than the Lenovo. One more pro - I’ve never had a mechanical keyboard before, I do loads of typing in my job and can’t believe I’ve never used one it’s a dream. Oh and I always work with the coolmaster on, it’s absolutely worth twenty quid extra.

A wee side note - in the first week I had a few times where my gpu got to 95 degrees - I discovered it was the epic games store that was causing it, now I open it to launch and then close it again and haven’t seen a repeat since.
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Hello,
I was observing and comparing my temperatures with yours and was wondering if is there anything wrong with my unit.
In office mode, without any heavy working load, just doing word text and a download on steam, my cpu temp. Gets 57°c and gpu temp. 48°c, is it the normal for the Vyper III 15.6" ?

Thanks for your attention!
 
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Charlas

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Steam downloads are pretty cpu heavy if you look, as it's doing decrypt and unpack as it streams data down, also remember if you even close to maxing out your network card that will eat cpu time too, as a lot of the network process is in software (via drivers) nowadays.

If you want to baseline a system, unhook network, and disable the wu services and any game launchers like steam/origin/epic see what it sits at, should give you an idea of low temps.
 
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Charlas said:
Steam downloads are pretty cpu heavy if you look, as it's doing decrypt and unpack as it streams data down, also remember if you even close to maxing out your network card that will eat cpu time too, as a lot of the network process is in software (via drivers) nowadays.

If you want to baseline a system, unhook network, and disable the wu services and any game launchers like steam/origin/epic see what it sits at, should give you an idea of low temps.
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Perfectly put, Steam downloads are compressed and encrypted, so when they arrive on the PC, they are unpacked and unencrypted on the fly, takes a lot of CPU power.
 
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lewisclark607

Member
Also - I think you are comparing apples and pears, mine is a recoil not a vyper, on a cooling stand in a cold room. I’m currently charging, so the speaker portion of my chassis is hot to touch, but my gpu is at 62, my cpu is at 32 and the ssd is at 40... if I turn on the fans then my gpu drops to 55 in about two minutes. I’m playing FM20 on full graphics in a match and browsing, everything else is closed (processor are 6%) apart from game centre.
 
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Paddy Baxter

Bronze Level Poster
lewisclark607 said:
Also - I think you are comparing apples and pears, mine is a recoil not a vyper, on a cooling stand in a cold room. I’m currently charging, so the speaker portion of my chassis is hot to touch, but my gpu is at 62, my cpu is at 32 and the ssd is at 40... if I turn on the fans then my gpu drops to 55 in about two minutes. I’m playing FM20 on full graphics in a match and browsing, everything else is closed (processor are 6%) apart from game centre.
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On a side note Lewis, how did you even get your GPU to 95 degrees? Mine maxes at 85 then down clocks itself until it hits 80, then repeats the process indefinitely
 
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