Pre-Production turns 50 today! Any tweaks to my build?

[rouchie]

Hmmm... I don't see how the RGB RAM could flag up as an issue re that 'Checking your specification...' window.

I mean, it wouldn't affect the GPU nor the cooler mentioned in the same paragraph as to affect the GPU the cooler would need to be installed behind the front case fans and so away from the RAM...
It wouldn't affect the next two points either (re case fans)

In fact the only issue I can imagine re RGB (or other taller/heatsink'd RAM kits) would get flagged is if the cooler is roof mounted, which would be away from the GPU (so no issue there)
But a 240mm cooler (as that one is) not only has room in that case above mobo and RAM but can also be offset towards the open side for that reason... to avoid impinging on RAM... in fact, it was one of the design specifics of the 4000/5000 series cases, as this had been an issue previously (as was so in my Corsair 460X case from 5 years ago)
In fact it was researching that which led me to choose the 4000D case for myself, it's right there on their site and in review vids.

Sigh... I dunno what to say or think at this stage tbh. It's as bewilderingly fishy as a south coast derby being played during a tsunami.

My cooler will be roof mounted as i have the 3 rgb fans at the fron now and one at the rear

 

[CMP01]

My cooler will be roof mounted as i have the 3 rgb fans at the fron now and one at the rear

I have to ask... has that config been confirmed by PCS or are/would you do that when it arrives?

It's just that given my experience of communications with PCS as well as my flagged 'checking your specifications' messages (and yours too) I just don't know what's what re my order and it's layout (nm that the issue re build time now might be any of two or three other parts being short)

I was already prepped and ok to work out the fan placement (it's a couple of hours work made easier by the fact that the RGB/power controller should already be in the case for the AiO it comes with) but now possibly to remove, clean contact plate and CPU, apply TP and reinstall the cooler too... it's slowly edging out the reasons why I decided on a prebuilt in the first place tbh. Not sure what to do... should I amend my order to fix the other parts I suspect are limited or out of supply? (case and PSU at least) Would that knock me down the queue... or as pondered, do they put parts aside for x build before building or when the day comes do they gather the parts only to find something unexpected or unplanned for is missing and so it gets set back (again)

As for those suspect parts... I could downgrade the PSU, from 1000W to 850W, and still have some overhead at max draw. I could upgrade the case from 4000D (now absent from the configurator) to the 5000D but then given it's extra fan slot and cooler spacing would need to add even more fans and almost certainly upgrade/move the cooler at the time to take advantage of what that case has over it's little brother. It's going to be getting more expensive in terms of money, time/effort to make good once arrived and stress from having to then troubleshoot and solve any further issues after those are done.

More clear info would be very reassuring either way.

 

[jamiephillips909]

Rgb ram is taller and dosent have enough room with a roof mounted aio in certain cases im not completely sure but have read it somewhere and just springs to mind

 

[Steveyg]

Rgb ram is taller and dosent have enough room with a roof mounted aio im not completely sure but have read it somewhere and just springs to mind

Depends on the case mate but yes there are some cases where you can't mount the rad on the roof due the height of RGB RAM being a few millimetres taller than regular RAM

 

[JUNI0R]

I believe the 4000+5000 series are cases that allow for RGB RAM and top mounted AIO. I’m sure there are others but to be safe I’d stick to one of those two

 

[CMP01]

For the 4000D/5000D cases, Corsair Vengeance RGB RAM and any Corsair H100 cooler with fans at least there are no probs. Plenty pics of builds on pcpartpicker with all three doing fine. It's a close fit, sure, but still an easy fit (and not forced)
If it was a H115 cooler then maybe I'd question it, 280mm vs 240mm so wider even compared to a 360mm cooler.

That's why I'm bamboozled at these flags.

 

[Steveyg]

For the 4000D/5000D cases, Corsair Vengeance RGB RAM and any Corsair H100 cooler with fans at least there are no probs. Plenty pics of builds on pcpartpicker with all three doing fine. It's a close fit, sure, but still an easy fit (and not forced)
If it was a H115 cooler then maybe I'd question it, 280mm vs 240mm so wider even compared to a 360mm cooler.

That's why I'm bamboozled at these flags.

I think the H115i is fine but it gets a bit screwy when you go for the H150i. I'll be honest I haven't personally looked to see how they mount the H150i into the 4/5000D

The bigger Rads can be tough to make fit as well

 

[CMP01]

I think the H115i is fine but it gets a bit screwy when you go for the H150i. I'll be honest I haven't personally looked to see how they mount the H150i into the 4/5000D

The bigger Rads can be tough to make fit as well

H150 is as wide the H100 and all have same depth afaik (I will be checking that later) The H150 should fit the same spots as H100 only the length is different. Afaik that'll fit the top and front slots of either 4000D/5000D with possibly only minor fiddling around. Populating both top and front runs with 360mm coolers should be fine too (though how or why anybody would is another thing) and of course, the 5000D has that extra cabling side 3 fan/360mm intake/outlet that iirc is good for both fans and a cooler. The H115 is just 20mm wider than a H100, and 40mm longer. Should still be fine most places the H100 can fit, only in the front of those cases will limit it to 2 fans and up top may impinge on some taller RAM kits even though the top mounting holes on those cases are significantly offset from centre unlike some other cases. Again, it pays to research (though it is exhausting and can be contradictory) but these two cases were pretty much designed to mitigate the issues that earlier Corsair cases, like my old 460X RGB, still had with RAM/cooler clearance despite the 'RGB ready/gamer' brandings.

Still, doesn't help with the PCS configurator bug though. It's this that gives me pause tbh. Having to do the fans myself is short work.

Another thing I'm no wiser about is that both those case models (and this is not just the airflow versions but the others too) apparently have vertical GPU mount capability and a mount/bracket, albeit a basic 'rest' style one that sits on the PSU cover, comes with the case. I can't find any details more than product pics and a brief mention on the Corsair site.

 

[Steveyg]

H150 is as wide the H100 and all have same depth afaik (I will be checking that later) The H150 should fit the same spots as H100 only the length is different. Afaik that'll fit the top and front slots of either 4000D/5000D with possibly only minor fiddling around. Populating both top and front runs with 360mm coolers should be fine too (though how or why anybody would is another thing) and of course, the 5000D has that extra cabling side 3 fan/360mm intake/outlet that iirc is good for both fans and a cooler. The H115 is just 20mm wider but same length as H100. Should be fine anywhere the H100 can fit, only in the front of those cases will limit it to 2 fans and up top may impinge on some taller RAM kits even though the top mounting holes on those cases are significantly offset from centre unlike some other cases. Again, it pays to research (though it is exhausting and can be contradictory) but these two cases were pretty much designed to mitigate the issues that earlier Corsair cases, like my old 460X RGB, still had with RAM/cooler clearance despite the 'RGB ready/gamer' brandings.

Still, doesn't help with the PCS configurator bug though. It's this that gives me pause tbh. Having to do the fans myself is short work.

Another thing I'm no wiser about is that both those case models (and this is not just the airflow versions but the others too) apparently have vertical GPU mount capability and a mount/bracket, albeit a basic 'rest' style one that sits on the PSU cover, comes with the case. I can't find any details more than product pics and a brief mention on the Corsair site.

Good info mate cheers

I'd be interested in knowing more about vertical mounts as well must do a bit of reading. Namely to see if it's more effective or not, I do like how it looks but is it more effective is probably the better question.

It's crazy that so little has actually been changed with regards to the layout in standard set ups over the years.

 

[CMP01]

Good info mate cheers

I'd be interested in knowing more about vertical mounts as well must do a bit of reading. Namely to see if it's more effective or not, I do like how it looks but is it more effective is probably the better question.

It's crazy that so little has actually been changed with regards to the layout in standard set ups over the years.

Should just mention, slight typo in my last comment re the H115 being the same length as the H100... of course it's not, silly CMP01... I missed that in my editing, sorry... it's actually 280mm vs 240mm for the H100 and ilk. Not as hefty as a 360mm but still, a potential issue for more confined cases than, say, the 4000D and up.

Anyway, as for the vertical mounted GPU side... I'm not sure how much variance there is from case to case re distance between face of GPU and glass but it still wouldn't be a lot I imagine. Either way, vertical mounting looks cool but will run hotter and is a question of how well your case fans set up and airflow can wick that hotter spot away. I only ponder as mentioned above cos I'd probably at least try it in my case, even if I don't keep it so.

PS: just an edit to mention, further to the point re Corsair designing with RAM/cooler clearance in mind... I just discovered that they make a Vengeance RGB Pro SL RAM kit that's 11mm shorter for this very reason (similar price and same timings btw though only available afaik in two speeds) Ok, it's not in the configurator here but it is a thing.