Opinions on this Gaming Laptop Spec

[Belgrave20]

Hi All,

Hoping to get some help with a laptop spec (unsuitable space for desktop & portability would be useful), will be used predominantly for gaming but multiple apps running simultaneously generally, although more on the management/sim side/strategy/CRPG's rather than FPS's (EFT/Valorant, maybe at a push) presently, but with the option to play whatever in the future.

Budget is pretty flexible, £1500-2000+.

I have the below spec currently -

Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 240Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 SUPER - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 3 in 1 Card Reader (Full Size SD / SDHC / SDXC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Recoil Series 94WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + THX Spatial Audio
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT + 3 x USB 3.1 PORTS
Keyboard Language
PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT UK MECHANICAL KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Chassis
TongFang GM5MPHW (8GB RTX-2070 SUPER, i7-10875H, 240Hz)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £1,974.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/recoil-IV-15/YMaZJ4sx46/

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[Scott]

Yeah, that's first class. Not much to improve on that chassis.

You could have a look at the Nova systems, which offer desktop hardware in a laptop chassis. You're not going to do too much better though

 

[Belgrave20]

Yeah, that's first class. Not much to improve on that chassis.

You could have a look at the Nova systems, which offer desktop hardware in a laptop chassis. You're not going to do too much better though

Thanks, so looking at the Nova system would something like this be the most direct comparison?

Chassis & Display
Nova Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900 12 Core CPU (3.1GHz-4.3GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Nova Series 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.2 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
15" NOVA SERIES UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo NH55AFW (8GB RTX-2070, 144Hz N7, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £1,696.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/nova-15/G7YdKNTkKR/

Cheers

 

[Scott]

Very similar... yes. You can see the value in the Nova systems though, especially with the 3900 desktop chip.

The main difference is the horsepower of the CPU in the Nova. It's going to be VERY powerful. That being said, it's more aimed at productivity than gaming.

You can't beat your original selection for gaming. The Nova would just add an option, and another dimension for productivity outside gaming.

 

[Belgrave20]

Very similar... yes. You can see the value in the Nova systems though, especially with the 3900 desktop chip.

The main difference is the horsepower of the CPU in the Nova. It's going to be VERY powerful. That being said, it's more aimed at productivity than gaming.

You can't beat your original selection for gaming. The Nova would just add an option, and another dimension for productivity outside gaming.

Thank you very much, can definitely see the value difference and the £300 could be used on a new monitor/mouse at a later stage, however I don't presently see the need for productivity outside of gaming, so I guess the first one would best suit my present needs, unless the £300 is only offering negligible improvement (I'm not 100% sure on the difference each would offer in terms of gaming)?

Cheers

 

[Scott]

They are both 1080p screens. The main difference of your first selection is the high refresh panel. It will make reasonable use of the 2070 Super overall.

I cannot be sure on the difference between the cards in the chassis. The Nova has desktop hardware in laptop versions, so the 2070 in it may actually be more powerful than the one in the other system but I wouldn't know without testing so maybe a good idea to call up and ask regarding that.

When you are purchasing a monitor, I would definitely aim for 1440p over 1080p, either system has you more than covered.

Do I think there is £300 between the laptops? Unlikely. If you're primarily laptop gaming and looking for very high refresh, the £300 may be worthwhile. Honestly it's a toss up. You'll be absolutely delighted either way.

Oh... something just popped into my head. The Nova system would only need the 3700X to be comparable... so that would save you money again. The 3900 is purely for processing grunt... which you don't need. The 3700X vs the Intel chip will see a reduction in around 5% FPS. The irony is that the 2070 will be a 200FPS card so you don't really need to consider that on these panels. When it comes to the 1440p, it's even LESS of a difference as you will be GPU bound rather than CPU bound.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Just to add, the other benefit of the Recoil is that it has Thunderbolt that carries DP, which is well worth it for a gaming laptop.

Reason being is you can add a thunderbolt eGPU such as this:

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It's just a caddy that has it's own power supply and you can add any desktop GPU you like, then attach it via thunderbolt to the laptop and blamo, you've got roughtly 75% of the power of that desktop card routing to the laptop, so when the 2070 becomes too weak (which would take a LONG time), then you don't have to throw the laptop out, just resort to the eGPU and a fairly low end GPU and you're still maxxing out the screen in AAA titles.

That feature alone makes Intel laptops quite appealing.

Thunderbolt is an Intel IP, but as I understand it, it's being merged fully and included in USB 4, so in the relatively short term future, we'll see it included in AMD laptops also, but not the current gen.

 

[Belgrave20]

Thank you both for your assistance, final question (I think) can I ask is there any benefit to waiting for the new Ryzen 4000 series to become available in laptop, I'll be honest and say I'm unsure as to how long the wait would be but if the addition is worthwhile given my investment then maybe that's an option.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Thank you both for your assistance, final question (I think) can I ask is there any benefit to waiting for the new Ryzen 4000 series to become available in laptop, I'll be honest and say I'm unsure as to how long the wait would be but if the addition is worthwhile given my investment then maybe that's an option.

No one knows how long it will be due to the ongoing issues, but benchmarks are out for the top 4000 CPU's and they're much more powerful than intel whilst using substantially less power, so yes, it would be worth waiting.

 

[Belgrave20]

No one knows how long it will be due to the ongoing issues, but benchmarks are out for the top 4000 CPU's and they're much more powerful than intel whilst using substantially less power, so yes, it would be worth waiting.

Thank you again, might put it on hold for a short while and see where I stand in the coming weeks, don't want to regret it at the end of all this.

 

[sodhi95]

@Belgrave20 Did you end up ordering your recoil (/or nova) ?

 

[Belgrave20]

@Belgrave20 Did you end up ordering your recoil (/or nova) ?

No, In the end I decided to hold off for the Ryzen 4 processors and will be taking a look then.