Nova with 1440p 144hz refresh rate

[EduOli]

Hello All,

I'm thinking about to buy a Nova for myself mostly for gaming, in this case mostly Destiny 2.
I'm looking for Ryzen 9 and RTX2070.
I was wondering if with this configuration would be possible to run demanding games like Destiny 2 at 1440p with144hz refresh rate.
Or should I go look for Vyper III for 2070 Super, maybe 2080?
And yes, I'm looking to buy a 27" monitor with 144hz-165hz.
Thanks

 

[steaky360]

@EduOli I think you forgot to add your spec - there's more to a spec than just the CPU and GPU

If you could tell us your budget as well as providing the configurable link with the spec that would be really helpful

 

[EduOli]

@EduOli I think you forgot to add your spec - there's more to a spec than just the CPU and GPU

If you could tell us your budget as well as providing the configurable link with the spec that would be really helpful

Hi!

Sorry! My budged is around £1800 - £2100

Here is the spec for Nova:

Chassis & Display
Nova Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900 12 Core CPU (3.1GHz-4.3GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Nova Series Detachable 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.2 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
15" NOVA SERIES UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Home Installation
NONE
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo NH55AFW (8GB RTX-2070, 144Hz N7, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £1,742.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/nova-15/ktkmJ2TK97/

 

[Scott]

When you say "mostly gaming", how much non-gaming is there?

The reason I ask is you have gone WAY overboard with the RAM. With it being a laptop which tend to be upgraded less often I think 32GB would be fine as the budget allows. Normally we would recommend 16GB so 32 is a bit outwith the norm. 64GB is very extreme and would be way past any sort of gaming use.

With the CPU I would tend to look towards the 3700X (or 3800 if it's available) as the 3900 is a low-fat version of the X series. It offers more processing power overall but will have far less gaming potential (single threaded performance).

Everything else looks great and should be ideally suited to a 1440p 144hz monitor.

 

[EduOli]

When you say "mostly gaming", how much non-gaming is there?

The reason I ask is you have gone WAY overboard with the RAM. With it being a laptop which tend to be upgraded less often I think 32GB would be fine as the budget allows. Normally we would recommend 16GB so 32 is a bit outwith the norm. 64GB is very extreme and would be way past any sort of gaming use.

With the CPU I would tend to look towards the 3700X (or 3800 if it's available) as the 3900 is a low-fat version of the X series. It offers more processing power overall but will have far less gaming potential (single threaded performance).

Everything else looks great and should be ideally suited to a 1440p 144hz monitor.

Hi!
Thanks for your reply!
Something around 3h-4h/day playing and when needed I use my own machine to do some data processing.

 

[EduOli]

Should this be a better option? Just because Recoil has better video card options than Nova.
Another question... Nova does not support RTX 2070 Super?

Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 240Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 SUPER - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 3 in 1 Card Reader (Full Size SD / SDHC / SDXC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Recoil Series Integrated 94WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + THX Spatial Audio
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT + 3 x USB 3.1 PORTS
Keyboard Language
PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT USA MECHANICAL KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Home Installation
NONE
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM5MPHW (8GB RTX-2070 SUPER, i7-10875H, 240Hz)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £1,871.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/recoil-IV-15/DcuwsEy8DK/

 

[briggm]

Should this be a better option? Just because Recoil has better video card options than Nova.
Another question... Nova does not support RTX 2070 Super?

Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 240Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 SUPER - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 3 in 1 Card Reader (Full Size SD / SDHC / SDXC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Recoil Series Integrated 94WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + THX Spatial Audio
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT + 3 x USB 3.1 PORTS
Keyboard Language
PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT USA MECHANICAL KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Home Installation
NONE
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM5MPHW (8GB RTX-2070 SUPER, i7-10875H, 240Hz)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Price: £1,871.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/recoil-IV-15/DcuwsEy8DK/

If it's mostly for gaming, I would say yes. It's also more portable and should have better battery life.

Only thing I'd change is dropping the BullGuard Security, which isn't very good and has been known to cause problems.

 

[Scott]

I don't think they are comparing apples with apples. From what I understand the Nova has the DTR 2070 while the Recoil has the Laptop 2070 Super. There won't be a lot in it for GPU power so I think you can completely forget the "Super" aspect of it. I think the DTR 2070 will actually be more powerful, paired with the 3700X it'll certainly be a more powerful overall system. That all being said, the Recoil is going to be more portable and more "laptop" like. The Nova is a DTR chassis so this has to be taken into consideration.

Ditto on Bullguard.

 

[Grumpywurzel]

The Nova is an awesome looking machine and has plenty of grunt, however book in for a visit to the chiropractor if you intend to move it around. I have the Intel-esk alternative and i weighs a tonne! However I knew this when buying and it doesn't move from where i plonked it months ago.

 

[EduOli]

I don't think they are comparing apples with apples. From what I understand the Nova has the DTR 2070 while the Recoil has the Laptop 2070 Super. There won't be a lot in it for GPU power so I think you can completely forget the "Super" aspect of it. I think the DTR 2070 will actually be more powerful, paired with the 3700X it'll certainly be a more powerful overall system. That all being said, the Recoil is going to be more portable and more "laptop" like. The Nova is a DTR chassis so this has to be taken into consideration.

Ditto on Bullguard.

Thanks for all replies guys!
Really helpful!
I changed the specs to reduce what was an overkill like the 64gb RAM haha! I knew was overkill... but big numbers are soooo nice!
About the video card, I was kind worried the RTX 2070 from Nova being worse than Super one and not delivering enough power to run nice in a 1440p monitor. I don't care about running in Ultra quality, High is enough for me. As mentioned, Nova is a totally different type of laptop with hardware a bit more powerful than a regular laptop.

Anyway, if your like and are looking for a new monitor, I just got one from Dell:

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Good reviews and they have a almost £100 discount.

Cheers

 

[lauwai]

Thanks for all replies guys!
Really helpful!
I changed the specs to reduce what was an overkill like the 64gb RAM haha! I knew was overkill... but big numbers are soooo nice!
About the video card, I was kind worried the RTX 2070 from Nova being worse than Super one and not delivering enough power to run nice in a 1440p monitor. I don't care about running in Ultra quality, High is enough for me. As mentioned, Nova is a totally different type of laptop with hardware a bit more powerful than a regular laptop.

Anyway, if your like and are looking for a new monitor, I just got one from Dell:

PC Accessories and Peripherals

Wide selection of high-quality PC accessories: Keyboards, mice, headsets, webcams, dockstations, batteries & more. Save Now: Black Friday Deals! Free Shipping! 2X Dell Rewards!

www.dell.com

Good reviews and they have a almost £100 discount.

Cheers

I've got the 2070 in my Nova and it's running a 32in 1440p 165hz monitor fine, especially if you're not planning on any ultra settings. I've had Shadow of the Tomb Raider banchmarks on 1440p ultra settings and full RTX/DLSS maxed out. I get avg FPS around 48-52 which seems to be around the ballpark for a 2070.

Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Review

Benchmarks: Shadow of the TR, Strange Brigade, Monster Hunter: World. Today we have our day-one GeForce RTX 2070 review for you and I suspect like most other publications, we were seriously under the pump for this one....

www.techspot.com

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Shadow of the Tomb Raider – RTX and DLSS benchmarked! - KitGuru

When Nvidia first demonstrated the real-time ray tracing capabilities of its RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti gr

www.kitguru.net

 

[FerrariVie]

I don't think they are comparing apples with apples. From what I understand the Nova has the DTR 2070 while the Recoil has the Laptop 2070 Super. There won't be a lot in it for GPU power so I think you can completely forget the "Super" aspect of it. I think the DTR 2070 will actually be more powerful, paired with the 3700X it'll certainly be a more powerful overall system. That all being said, the Recoil is going to be more portable and more "laptop" like. The Nova is a DTR chassis so this has to be taken into consideration.

Ditto on Bullguard.

That's actually not true for the GPU. While the nova has a desktop CPU, the GPU is still laptop - 115W limited. However, your comments make total sense on the CPU side of things, as a desktop 3700x is far better than a laptop 10875H on multi-core performance and similar on single-core

The Nova is an awesome looking machine and has plenty of grunt, however book in for a visit to the chiropractor if you intend to move it around. I have the Intel-esk alternative and i weighs a tonne! However I knew this when buying and it doesn't move from where i plonked it months ago.

I also don't agree with that, but it all depends on the point of view. The nova weights around the same as my 4-year-old Dell Gaming 7559, both being 15.6". So, since the Nova is smaller on most dimensions (it's just thicker), it actually makes it more portable than a lot of older gaming laptops . You cannot compare the Nova with the newer thin and light laptops, as the latter are in a whole different dimension, price-wise (more expensive) and performance-wise (slower)

 

[Scott]

That's actually not true for the GPU. While the nova has a desktop CPU, the GPU is still laptop - 115W limited. However, your comments make total sense on the CPU side of things, as a desktop 3700x is far better than a laptop 10875H on multi-core performance and similar on single-core

Do you have any references for this?

I know that it's a "laptop" card, and there will be limitations, but I was under the impression that the Nova version was the 2070 Full Fat laptop edition, similar to the GTX1080 in my Octane III. The RTX2070 Super in the Recoil, I believe, is the RTX2070m..... Super.... with the "m" now being dropped with all mobile cards.

 

[FerrariVie]

Do you have any references for this?

I know that it's a "laptop" card, and there will be limitations, but I was under the impression that the Nova version was the 2070 Full Fat laptop edition, similar to the GTX1080 in my Octane III. The RTX2070 Super in the Recoil, I believe, is the RTX2070m..... Super.... with the "m" now being dropped with all mobile cards.

I might have misread your post, but if you are talking about desktop 2070, that is not the case here. The nova indeed has the full-fat 2070, but for laptops (topping at 115W). It's still a bit far from the desktop 2070 and more on par with the 2060 desktop.

This is the Nova's 2070 GPU:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile Refresh Specs

NVIDIA TU106B, 1455 MHz, 2304 Cores, 144 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1375 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Print of my own GPU-Z:

 

[Scott]

I might have misread your post, but if you are talking about desktop 2070, that is not the case here. The nova indeed has the full-fat 2070, but for laptops (topping at 115W). It's still a bit far from the desktop 2070 and more on par with the 2060 desktop.

This is the Nova's 2070 GPU:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile Refresh Specs

NVIDIA TU106B, 1455 MHz, 2304 Cores, 144 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1375 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Print of my own GPU-Z:
View attachment 18730

Think you've misunderstood what I meant. There are no full fat desktop cards in laptops, I don't think there ever have been that I can think of. They are always cut down versions in the DTR class. They are generally called "notebook" models. The DTR cards, however, tend to be more powerful than the standard offerings.

What I was saying is that the Nova spec 2070 is likely to have more performance than the Recoil 2070 Super as it's unlikely to be at the same level of GPU, even though the naming suggests it would be. It's more than likely the true laptop model which would previously have been an "m" class card. GTX980m for example.

 

[FerrariVie]

Think you've misunderstood what I meant. There are no full fat desktop cards in laptops, I don't think there ever have been that I can think of. They are always cut down versions in the DTR class. They are generally called "notebook" models. The DTR cards, however, tend to be more powerful than the standard offerings.

What I was saying is that the Nova spec 2070 is likely to have more performance than the Recoil 2070 Super as it's unlikely to be at the same level of GPU, even though the naming suggests it would be. It's more than likely the true laptop model which would previously have been an "m" class card. GTX980m for example.

The way that I differentiate the mobile GPUs nowadays is by the max wattage that they can be provided, as the chips and memory are usually the same across all GPUs from the same model. For example, you can find laptops with the RTX 2060 that could vary from 80 to 115W (not even mentioning max-q, which will go even lower), with the nova having the 115W top of the class version. If that's what you're saying, you're right. But I don't think the same behaviour happens with the 2070, as all the models I've seen have 115W (apart from max-q that could have 80 or 90W)

 

[Scott]

I could be wrong but I think 1455mhz is faster than the 2070 "mobile". I find it really difficult to discern between them all now, the line is far too grey IMO. Having to benchmark your system to get a score to figure out the power of your GPU isn't tennis IMO.

 

[FerrariVie]

I could be wrong but I think 1455mhz is faster than the 2070 "mobile". I find it really difficult to discern between them all now, the line is far too grey IMO. Having to benchmark your system to get a score to figure out the power of your GPU isn't tennis IMO.

The 1455 boost clock is because the Nova is using the 2020 refreshed version of the 2070 mobile, which makes things even more confusing

The "normal"/old 2070 mobile does indeed have a slower boost clock (1440) and base clock, but the memory is quite a bit faster. In the end, the refreshed version is around 1% faster and a bit cooler than the "normal" 2070 mobile.

But I completely agree, it is very confusing and hard to identify exactly what gpu model each laptop model has. It requires a lot of digging into techy reviews and forums, which is far from ideal and, if not done properly, could make people buy a different chip than what they were expecting.

 

[lauwai]

As far as I know, the only laptop that uses both full fat desktop spec CPU and GPU is the Alienware M51.

 

[FerrariVie]

As far as I know, the only laptop that uses both full fat desktop spec CPU and GPU is the Alienware M51.

Not really. Even though the GPU is "replaceable", it is still a laptop version. If you check Jarrod's Tech review video and look at the chips variant code, you'll see that we're talking about a mobile GPU:

N18E-G3-A1 with 150W TDP, versus 215W for the desktop version.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile Specs

NVIDIA TU104, 1590 MHz, 2944 Cores, 184 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Specs

NVIDIA TU104, 1710 MHz, 2944 Cores, 184 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com