Was looking to spec up a couple of work laptops; need fast disk, good amount of memory, good processor and a 17" screen. The one thing I don't need is a games spec graphic card, but all current 17" either have an underpowered battery saving Intel U type CPU, or an RTX graphics card. Unfortunately of course RTX cards are hard to get at the moment, so I am kind of stuffed. Would it be possible to come up with a reasonably high powered, possibly Ryzen, 17" laptop with standard graphics?
Non-RTX graphics based 17" laptop please
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SpyderTracks
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PCS don’t monitor these forums and none of us work for them.
Business laptops don't really come in 17", that's really a gaming spec. I'm not sure any seller does a 17" business configuration. Outside of rendering workstations which obviously have high end GPU's in them.
I'm not sure what you're wanting exists.
The nearest options would be the Fusion Studio 15 which has XE graphics: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/fusion-studio-15/
Or the old Fusion Pro IV 15 which is an older model with GT graphics (which are still gaming cards): https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/FusionIV-pro-15/
Yes, of course - thanks! I'm surprised nobody is doing these at the moment - if it wasn't for the shortage, an RTX 3060 graphics card in the laptop would be fine, if a little overkill. But it seems the entire laptop production line is stopped because of the lack of availability of this cards, which is a shame because in my case, the internal intel graphics on the CPU would be fine.
SpyderTracks
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There's no shortage of laptop GPU's, you may be getting confused with desktop GPU's, entirely different thing.
Laptops are in good stocks. Some are brand new and shipments haven't arrived yet, hence on pre order, but other than that stocks are fine.
SpyderTracks
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The whole point of a business laptop is you have the screen as small as possible to aid with portability, then when you're at a desk you'd plug into an external monitor anyway so the screen size is irrelevant.
RobertoDub
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I agree to some extent. As a typical employee, you often need to bring your laptop to meeting rooms, where you don't have the ability to plug into an external screen.
Also, some Countries have laws that do not allow companies to provide screens smaller than 15" to people who are required to work from home.
I'd say most companies purchase 14" and 15" business laptops, nowadays, but 16" Macbook Pros are also quite popular.
SpyderTracks
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MacBook Pro’s aren’t aimed at business use, they’re for creatives, so for rendering and photography. They have workstation professional GPUs in them.
There’s loads of 15” business laptops, just none over that, doesn’t exist in the marketplace for the reasons stated above.
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RobertoDub
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Many executives nowadays use Macbooks, also you have software developers who ask for Macbooks to cope well with their workflows.
I agree when it comes to Windows laptops they don't usually go over 15" for business, but 16" Macbooks are becoming popular in large multinational companies and the current 13" alternative doesn't quite cut it for many managers/executives.
SpyderTracks
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Yes, MacBooks certainly but they wouldn’t ask for a 16” MacBook Pro, nor would work pay for one unless it was for a designer / games designer / video editor. The workstation graphics on their own are around £700 on top of the cost of a normal GPU. No business would authorise that for someone who didn’t need professional graphics power.
Normal business users would get the 15” or 13” with a standard integrated graphics.
There are some non-gaming 17" laptops (including Intel-only options), XPSs and LG Grams for example.
But yes they'd be less common, and that includes 16" Apple Macs too - for years there's the argument that Macs are coming more popular with consumers, businesses, geeks, newbies, artists, software developers, but the overall market remains much the same. At work for software development we use Windows, which works fine with our workflows. Not that it really changes the point, if the 16" ones have dedicated GPUs in them anyway.
It might be that large screen non-gaming laptops in general are becoming more common, that's likely now that it's possible to make laptops lighter, and that's true for other OEMs too.
The OP will only get advice from us here on the PCS ones though. Any reason not to, if laptop GPUs aren't in shortage? The days of gaming laptops being big and heavy is a thing of the past - although battery life is still limited.
But yes they'd be less common, and that includes 16" Apple Macs too - for years there's the argument that Macs are coming more popular with consumers, businesses, geeks, newbies, artists, software developers, but the overall market remains much the same. At work for software development we use Windows, which works fine with our workflows. Not that it really changes the point, if the 16" ones have dedicated GPUs in them anyway.
It might be that large screen non-gaming laptops in general are becoming more common, that's likely now that it's possible to make laptops lighter, and that's true for other OEMs too.
The OP will only get advice from us here on the PCS ones though. Any reason not to, if laptop GPUs aren't in shortage? The days of gaming laptops being big and heavy is a thing of the past - although battery life is still limited.
FerrariVie
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Most social media companies and also some startups are giving MacBook Pros to their employees, even if they don't do any kind of creative work. I think this is a total waste of money, but they're doing it for the status and to lure people into accepting a job in their company (I've seen some advertise "Macbook Pro and IPhone provided" on the job spec
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Most social media companies and also some startups are giving MacBook Pros to their employees, even if they don't do any kind of creative work. I think this is a total waste of money, but they're doing it for the status and to lure people into accepting a job in their company (I've seen some advertise "Macbook Pro and IPhone provided" on the job spec
pay and conditions are rubbish, 80 hr weeks and no social life........ buuuut, you get a free macbook, SOLD!!
FerrariVie
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and don't forget the cantine with free food and gym in the building. Now I'm sold! 😝
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