I had the 9900K prior to switching to AMD. That was also a hot potato. Granted I pushed it a little with overclocks, but it took everything I had available from the H115i when I was running intensive processes.
They've always been hot. The 6700K I have in my laptop sounds like a jet engine when its working hard. I had the mobile version in a laptop that I sent back as well, and it sounded like it was going to take off too.
AMD were very clever in the design of their chips and what they felt was important. Sure in the beginning people would always compare flat out performance across the board, and Intel would edge AMD out, but when it came to power usage and temps..... AMD were always ahead. They were also more temperature sensitive though, so performance would drop at lower temps than Intel..... my guess is this was by very deliberate design though as we are finding Intel don't really consider the down sides of pushing to the limits.
As time has gone on (pretty much since ZEN3) AMD has taken the crown. Minimal difference in performance, excelling in gaming and temps/performance drops not being a consideration anymore. It's stayed that way since, AMD stretched with the AM4 and the AM5 is hopefully going to put the current Intel design completely to rest (although they seem to be doing it on their own).
I don't like any manufacturer having dominance, I want to see Intel back at the races..... but I want them to do it right, with their actual customers at the forefront of their priorities. Intel are very, very, fortunate to have their reputation. If AMD were going through this right now they would probably be finished (but they would handle it differently regardless). People are still blissfully unaware of the poor products that Intel have been shovelling out for years now because they have built a reputation where the assumption is they are the best. That crown was lost a long time ago and only people greasing their palms from Intel have said otherwise on public platforms.
Assumption and nostalgia are keeping Intel from absolutely imploding right now. Unfortunately that's only with regular consumers. When the big fish start to topple, like a large Unreal farm company have announced, it's going to hurt their shares & profits big time.
They've always been hot. The 6700K I have in my laptop sounds like a jet engine when its working hard. I had the mobile version in a laptop that I sent back as well, and it sounded like it was going to take off too.
AMD were very clever in the design of their chips and what they felt was important. Sure in the beginning people would always compare flat out performance across the board, and Intel would edge AMD out, but when it came to power usage and temps..... AMD were always ahead. They were also more temperature sensitive though, so performance would drop at lower temps than Intel..... my guess is this was by very deliberate design though as we are finding Intel don't really consider the down sides of pushing to the limits.
As time has gone on (pretty much since ZEN3) AMD has taken the crown. Minimal difference in performance, excelling in gaming and temps/performance drops not being a consideration anymore. It's stayed that way since, AMD stretched with the AM4 and the AM5 is hopefully going to put the current Intel design completely to rest (although they seem to be doing it on their own).
I don't like any manufacturer having dominance, I want to see Intel back at the races..... but I want them to do it right, with their actual customers at the forefront of their priorities. Intel are very, very, fortunate to have their reputation. If AMD were going through this right now they would probably be finished (but they would handle it differently regardless). People are still blissfully unaware of the poor products that Intel have been shovelling out for years now because they have built a reputation where the assumption is they are the best. That crown was lost a long time ago and only people greasing their palms from Intel have said otherwise on public platforms.
Assumption and nostalgia are keeping Intel from absolutely imploding right now. Unfortunately that's only with regular consumers. When the big fish start to topple, like a large Unreal farm company have announced, it's going to hurt their shares & profits big time.
