New Video Editing Build

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Starkie

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Hi Guys,

Looking for a real workhorse for video editing and motion graphics work as my main work machine. Premiere and After Effects mainly. Can anyone see anything foolish in the below build. I am unsure if more ram is better, or faster ram.

Thanks in advance

Case
ASUS ProArt PA602 E-ATX CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 24-Core Processor i9-14900KS (Up to 6.2 GHz) 36MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG MAXIMUS Z790 DARK HERO (LGA1700, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
Memory (RAM)
192GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 5200MHz (4 x 48GB)
Graphics Card
24GB ASUS TUF GEFORCE RTX 4090 OC EDITION OG - 2x HDMI, 3x DP
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 990 EVO M.2, PCIe 4.0 & 5.0 NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4200MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 360 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Monitor
ASUS ProArt Display PA329CRV 31.5" - 3840 x 2160, IPS, 100% sRGB
Monitor
ASUS ProArt Display PA329CRV 31.5" - 3840 x 2160, IPS, 100% sRGB
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
48 HOUR INSURED PALLET DELIVERY TO UK (MON-FRI, INC. HIGHLANDS & ISLANDS)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
 
sck451

sck451

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Yes, plenty wrong with that build. In particular, the CPU, GPU and cooling. I'd go for something very different.

What's the budget?
 
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Starkie

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sck451 said:
Yes, plenty wrong with that build. In particular, the CPU, GPU and cooling. I'd go for something very different.

What's the budget?
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Hi @sck451 - Thankyou for the reply, budget is around the 5k mark. Is there anything you recommend I look at in particular?
 
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sck451

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From looking at that build, I presume the £5k is before VAT?

I would definitely go with AMD rather than Intel. Look at some news of Intel recently: their top-end CPUs are failing at a dramatic rate, and have enormous thermal problems associated with them. (The two things may well be connected.) An AMD build might look like this (but read below for further thoughts!)

Case
ASUS ProArt PA602 E-ATX CASE This case is crazy - absolutely huge - is it definitely what you want? A more reasonable one would be smaller, just as good, and far cheaper
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16 Core CPU (4.5GHz-5.7GHz/80MB CACHE/AM5) Stronger, more efficient and much more reliable CPU. But, the 9950X is coming out in three weeks...
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E) Overkill, but very strong
Memory (RAM)
192GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz (4 x 48GB) If you're sure you need it!
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4090 - HDMI, DP No benefit to getting the OC version
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W) A third SSD to act as a scratch disk may be worth it?
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET Overkill with a PSU is a good plan on a system like this - even the 1500W
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler Strong cooling for the 7950X
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Monitor
ASUS ProArt Display PA329CRV 31.5" - 3840 x 2160, IPS, 100% sRGB
Monitor
ASUS ProArt Display PA329CRV 31.5" - 3840 x 2160, IPS, 100% sRGB
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
48 HOUR INSURED PALLET DELIVERY TO UK (MON-FRI, INC. HIGHLANDS & ISLANDS)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
Price: £5,486.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/bQz4YuqDET/

With that said, I probably wouldn't buy this. I would look at either of two alternatives instead.
  1. Wait three weeks and get the 9950X instead. It'll probably be about the same price and maybe 15% faster.
  2. Go with Threadripper. Realistically that adds £650ish to your budget, but you do get the platform benefits of Threadripper, as well as the extra eight CPU cores.
 
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Starkie

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@sck451 - that is awesome - really grateful for your advice! When you say Threadripper is that - that an AMD option? I'll take a look at that. I hadn't realised intel had so many issues. But I recall my older PC that I specced on here and that was the same case. That was 4 years ago!
 
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TonyCarter

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Starkie said:
@sck451 - that is awesome - really grateful for your advice! When you say Threadripper is that - that an AMD option? I'll take a look at that. I hadn't realised intel had so many issues. But I recall my older PC that I specced on here and that was the same case. That was 4 years ago!
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  • Ryzen are AMD's desktop CPUs
  • Threadripper/Threadripper Pro are AMD's workstation CPUs
  • EPYC are AMD's server CPUs
 
sck451

sck451

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Starkie said:
@sck451 - that is awesome - really grateful for your advice! When you say Threadripper is that - that an AMD option? I'll take a look at that. I hadn't realised intel had so many issues. But I recall my older PC that I specced on here and that was the same case. That was 4 years ago!
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The case is good, but unnecessarily massive for a regular desktop option. The benefits of a larger case are (a) providing for a larger motherboard, as is necessary for Threadripper, (b) providing for more hard drives, which you're not using, (c) providing for a complex cooling solution, which you're not doing.

I'd go for something smaller, myself. My preferences would be:
  • Corsair 5000D Airflow
  • Corsair 5000X
  • Fractal Meshify 2 (you'd have to do "send in your own case" for this one, but it's my favourite)
 
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Starkie

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Thankyou everyone for the advice - Between working I've been having a google about and checking some bits out. Any thoughts on this motherboard which was recommended by a team I was working with - ASUS ProArt X670E_Creator WIFI (AM5, DDr5, PCIe 5.0, Wifi 6E, 1x0gbe
 
sck451

sck451

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Starkie said:
Thankyou everyone for the advice - Between working I've been having a google about and checking some bits out. Any thoughts on this motherboard which was recommended by a team I was working with - ASUS ProArt X670E_Creator WIFI (AM5, DDr5, PCIe 5.0, Wifi 6E, 1x0gbe
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It's a great motherboard but unless there are specific features you need I'd not spend an extra £180 on it. The feature you might need is 10Gb ethernet. If that's essential to you, the ProArt is great. If it's not, then the money wouldn't be well spent.

But in fact I'd wait a couple of weeks and see what the new X870E boards are and whether there's anything compelling there with the new CPUs. I can't imagine there will be, but you never know.
 
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TonyCarter

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It's a very good board, aimed at creators rather than gamers/enthusiasts, so if you'll make use of the extras it offers over a ROG Strix or then go for it.

This is what it looks to have over the ROG Strix X670E:
  • 10Gb ethernet (on top of 2.5Gb ethernet)
  • 1 more USB (20 vs 19)
  • 2 x USB 4
  • USB 3 charging
  • extra PCIe 5.0x16 slot
 
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TonyCarter

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sck451 said:
It's a great motherboard but unless there are specific features you need I'd not spend an extra £180 on it. The feature you might need is 10Gb ethernet. If that's essential to you, the ProArt is great. If it's not, then the money wouldn't be well spent.

But in fact I'd wait a couple of weeks and see what the new X870E boards are and whether there's anything compelling there with the new CPUs. I can't imagine there will be, but you never know.
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It's strange, but the tech reporters are saying the X870/X870E/B850 boards won't be out until a few months after the 9000 series CPUs, but they'll work happily on the X670/X670E/B650 motherboards.
 
SpyderTracks

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Yeah, the new boards aren't coming out for a little while after the new 9000 series have launched

The latest we're hearing is around mid-september for the 800 series boards, possibly to coincide with the 9000 X3D chips, although @Scott said he's heard the X3D parts may be released before then.


September is the normal release window for CPU's, I can't help feel that AMD wanted desperately to get out before Intel this generation and that's why this staggered release with CPU's coming before the boards.
 
sck451

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How curious: must have missed that one. AMD in a rush and beating their board partners to release day from the sound of it.

Re the actual advice, I'd stick with waiting for the 9950X on an X670E board, and it probably doesn't matter that much which one as long as it has the features needed.
 
Scott

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No boards on release is very strange to me. If I was starting from scratch I would want the 800 series tbh. The ProArt board is a great example of why, the only really good reason to go for it is USB4/TB3. The latest boards will already have that ability, and I would hope the lesser models will be cheaper than the ProArt.

It's quite clever as they may be slightly staggering their demand to keep up. Very curious though.

September was when I had read the X3Ds were coming out, but this may be put back again. If it at least tied in with the motherboards then I guess that would make some sense.
 
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Starkie

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Thankyou for the input all - I am confident in my choice now. Out of interest, it was the same about 4 years ago - how come AMD seems to win out over intel chips time and time again. It was mentioned the I9 are over heating - seems mad for such a high-ticket item
 
SpyderTracks

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Starkie said:
Thankyou for the input all - I am confident in my choice now. Out of interest, it was the same about 4 years ago - how come AMD seems to win out over intel chips time and time again. It was mentioned the I9 are over heating - seems mad for such a high-ticket item
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Intel have completely dropped the ball for years now, they put investors and exec pay above consumers and it’s biting them where it hurts at long last.
 
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TonyCarter

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I think the i9s have always been hot chips.

It was worse on the iMac (due to the limited space for cooling and added heat from the screen). I remember swapping out my top-of-the-range i9-10910 (an Apple-only, 125w version) iMac for an i7-10700k as the i9 had the iMacs fans on at 100% for most of the time I was using it. With the i7, it was silent until near the end of a multi-hour video processing session...despite having the exact same 125W TDP as the i9.

In single-core benchmarks, the i7 was c.3% faster than the i9, and in multi-core the i9 was c.2% faster...so not worth it for the heat/noise.

The benefit of course was that I could easily run both MacOS and Windows on a single machine for different clients (or VMWare). It's currently sat under my desk as my Windows-only backup machine (remember people, if your job depends on data & a computer, always have backups both).
 
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