New PC Spec to handle high res video editing

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oobujoobu

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SpyderTracks said:
That won't work I'm afraid, you can't pair the 3900x with a b450 board, it would just burn out.
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Ah, OK, thanks, I was hoping that was OK based on your first suggestion yesterday. I'll have a look in the morning, I'm starting to get well over budget now, I might need to back off on the 3900x!
 
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oobujoobu said:
Ah, OK, thanks, I was hoping that was OK based on your first suggestion yesterday. I'll have a look in the morning, I'm starting to get well over budget now, I might need to back off on the 3900x!
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You won't be able to do the 3900x within budget at all, to factor in that chip, you'd need to up the board to an X570, plus the cooler to the H100i, it's roughly another £170
 
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oobujoobu

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OK thanks I'm back to this as my latest quote. It does give me the following message but based on what you said earlier tonight sounds like I should stick with the PSU I've selected rather than downgrading to their suggestion.

"You have selected a 550W power supply, but based on our calculations you actually only need a 450W power supply. We have calculated your specification to require around of 373W power including a 20% allowance. Although it is not a mandatory requirement to select a lower wattage power supply, doing so will save you money and the last thing we'd like to do is over charge you!"

So given that my aim is to have a machine that won't have me tearing my hair out when hi res video editing (preferably allowing for 4K but at the moment it's mainly 2.7K that I do on my several year old off the shelf budget laptop that cost about £500, very frustratingly but it gets there in the end!)

Latest saved quote:
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CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
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AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
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ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
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32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 16GB)
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6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
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CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
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Scott

Scott

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I would throw this idea in the ring too. Now, I completely understand this has taken you considerably over budget, but it's with good reason. You may find in the relatively near future that you wish to up the processing oomph of your system. In order to do that with any real merit, you're going to want a 3900X or above CPU. In order to support that you're going to want the X570 motherboard in place. This doesn't offer any performance improvement right now, but what it does do is allow you to drop in a much more powerful CPU down the line with very minimal fuss (Possibly the CPU cooler). Swapping out the CPU and the CPU cooler is a LOT easier than swapping out an entire motherboard, not to mention very costly.

IMO this would be a good investment right now for the future. It allows for a 2nd M2 drive as well so I swapped out the SSD with the much faster M2 scratch drive.

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (1900 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
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CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
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1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
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STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
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STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
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WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
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Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/wUy0WkpmyB/
 
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oobujoobu

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Scott said:
I would throw this idea in the ring too. Now, I completely understand this has taken you considerably over budget, but it's with good reason. You may find in the relatively near future that you wish to up the processing oomph of your system. In order to do that with any real merit, you're going to want a 3900X or above CPU. In order to support that you're going to want the X570 motherboard in place. This doesn't offer any performance improvement right now, but what it does do is allow you to drop in a much more powerful CPU down the line with very minimal fuss (Possibly the CPU cooler). Swapping out the CPU and the CPU cooler is a LOT easier than swapping out an entire motherboard, not to mention very costly.

IMO this would be a good investment right now for the future. It allows for a 2nd M2 drive as well so I swapped out the SSD with the much faster M2 scratch drive.

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (1900 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,447.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/wUy0WkpmyB/
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Thanks Scott, more food for thought there! I suppose you're saying a building equivalent of "if you build better foundations now, you've more chance of having an extension built on top in future". I understand. I'll give that budget some thought today, I may need to just delay my screen update to 32 inches a little to accommodate this.
 
Scott

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oobujoobu said:
Thanks Scott, more food for thought there! I suppose you're saying a building equivalent of "if you build better foundations now, you've more chance of having an extension built on top in future". I understand. I'll give that budget some thought today, I may need to just delay my screen update to 32 inches a little to accommodate this.
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Exactly. When spending this sort of money it's always prudent to get the base spot on. The bits you can easily plug in and out are nowhere near as important as the defining items.

Other than the aforementioned upgrades, the only other items to consider are the case and the cooling. If you wanted to just go all out you would want the 570X Corsair case and the H115i Platinum RGB. That way..... no matter what you wanted to do in the future, you could by simply upgrading the GPU and the CPU. You could have any level of system completely catered for with this.

I completely understand that everything is budget related and I genuinely get the reservation.

If you look at my signature you will see some key components:

Case - This can take anything, absolutely any future changes to anything I could warrant. It'll take the biggest cooler, the biggest GPU and fit in as much storage as I can throw at it. This case is with me for a LONG time to come (10+ years)

PSU - 750w RM, the older sibling of the RMx. This PSU is way over-specced for my needs but I can plug in any standard of GPU, or any other hardware, without concern. It was expensive, but runs almost completely silent and is fully modular. Also came with a 10yr guarantee.... not that I will ever need it as it's proper high end.

Cooler - H115i RGB platinum. Pretty much as soon as this came out I swapped out my H115i PRO for it. This is the top shelf cooler for any enthusiast level of system. It'll take a CPU such as the 9900k overclocked (which I have) and it will take the highest end AMD Zen chip (3950X) with nothing that competes with it at this level (you're into 360mm AIO coolers before they can take the crown).

Motherboard - My motherboard selection was high end but not the highest. It's at the end of its life so has no future potential. The X570 most definitely does so it is VERY much worthwhile. The STRIX has some additional merits but it's a very expensive luxury. The standard ASUS X570 is a brilliant motherboard and would do well.

Everything else in my build is plug and play and everything else was based on budget. If I had the money I would have gone with the 2080Ti.... but I didn't, so it was the 2080. It was the sensible choice for me as my next purchase will be a GPU, leaving everything else exactly as it is. This system should be good for me for a minimum of 5 years with the exception of the GPU.
 
nathanjrb

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If it helps, my current rig, also in my signature, was purchased in 2012. I have edited 4k files on it (admittedly I had to proxy them), but it is still a very capable system. It is starting to show its age, the PSU has developed a horrendous coil whine and it can now only play modern intensive games on low quality - but it's served me well over the 8 years. Admittedly, two of those years, the machine was sat in a corner and only powered on once whilst I was on travels. But the point is - it still works well.

I'll be purchasing a new PSU this week, to swap out the old one. I'll be going for the 850 and fully modular (I really wish I had done that last time although semi-modular is still better than not at all) and I'll transfer it to my new rig once purchased. There isn't really anything else I can upgrade as the CPU is now the bottleneck and can't be upgraded. For editing, the CPU is by far the most important component (at least for now).

The way I see it, you have two options:
- Spend big now and make the rig last a long time (that's pretty much what I did), with only a GPU upgrade later on.
- Spend low, but with whatever components you need to leave yourself a nice upgrade path in the future. If that means you go slightly over your budget, then it's probably worth it in the long run.

What I would try and avoid is shoehorning yourself into a corner and minimising the upgrade paths - otherwise you'll just find yourself shelling out pennies again in a few years time.
 
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oobujoobu

Active member
Scott said:
Exactly. When spending this sort of money it's always prudent to get the base spot on. The bits you can easily plug in and out are nowhere near as important as the defining items.

Other than the aforementioned upgrades, the only other items to consider are the case and the cooling. If you wanted to just go all out you would want the 570X Corsair case and the H115i Platinum RGB. That way..... no matter what you wanted to do in the future, you could by simply upgrading the GPU and the CPU. You could have any level of system completely catered for with this.

I completely understand that everything is budget related and I genuinely get the reservation.

If you look at my signature you will see some key components:

Case - This can take anything, absolutely any future changes to anything I could warrant. It'll take the biggest cooler, the biggest GPU and fit in as much storage as I can throw at it. This case is with me for a LONG time to come (10+ years)

PSU - 750w RM, the older sibling of the RMx. This PSU is way over-specced for my needs but I can plug in any standard of GPU, or any other hardware, without concern. It was expensive, but runs almost completely silent and is fully modular. Also came with a 10yr guarantee.... not that I will ever need it as it's proper high end.

Cooler - H115i RGB platinum. Pretty much as soon as this came out I swapped out my H115i PRO for it. This is the top shelf cooler for any enthusiast level of system. It'll take a CPU such as the 9900k overclocked (which I have) and it will take the highest end AMD Zen chip (3950X) with nothing that competes with it at this level (you're into 360mm AIO coolers before they can take the crown).

Motherboard - My motherboard selection was high end but not the highest. It's at the end of its life so has no future potential. The X570 most definitely does so it is VERY much worthwhile. The STRIX has some additional merits but it's a very expensive luxury. The standard ASUS X570 is a brilliant motherboard and would do well.

Everything else in my build is plug and play and everything else was based on budget. If I had the money I would have gone with the 2080Ti.... but I didn't, so it was the 2080. It was the sensible choice for me as my next purchase will be a GPU, leaving everything else exactly as it is. This system should be good for me for a minimum of 5 years with the exception of the GPU.
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Thanks, well I think we're nearly there!

Can I just confirm which of the 2 M.2 drives I should have the OS installed in to please?

Also, are the standard thermal paste and processor cooling options selected sufficient for this system?

Thanks again 🙂
 
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