New PC Build - Any Painless Way To Make This Build A Bit Cheaper, Or Any Balancing? Thanks, Much Appreciated!!

[Scott]

I would drop the arctic paste. The Corsair stuff is excellent and pre-applied, thus negating the possibility of a poor paste job. Never recommended with the Corsair units.

Any reason for the STRIX? It's not required for your build and you won't get any benefit from it unless you have a particular need of something from that model?

 

[tiemannandco]

I would drop the arctic paste. The Corsair stuff is excellent and pre-applied, thus negating the possibility of a poor paste job. Never recommended with the Corsair units.

Any reason for the STRIX? It's not required for your build and you won't get any benefit from it unless you have a particular need of something from that model?

Yes no probs, I will drop the paste.
STRIX, the price difference was fairly small, reviewed better I believe for things like sound and given that I am not going for a separate sound card I thought it would be a fair simple gain (unless is worth adding a separate sound card?), plus it does look nicer than the TUF don't you think?

Storage wise, still undecided, as 8TB feels rather massive and the 3TB is attractive for the speeds but I will fill one up instantly? What is generally recommended? Small plus large 3TB/8TB or say more even 6TB/6TB, or it doesn't really matter? Agree now for dropping the Ironwolf drives as these are more for a NAS unit.

 

[Scott]

Fair enough with the Strix, if it's what you want for the bells and whistles then it's a decent buy. It's a great motherboard.

Storage is very personal. You need to have a look at what you want to store on the drives. and how much space you think that will take. Just keep in mind that you can very easily add storage at any time in the future.

Having 2TB of firecuda should go a long way for your projects, pictures and any other fast access that you need. The 3TB is handy for reasonable speeds for files that you use a little more often or want a little quicker access too... such as finished projects I imagine. The 8TB would just be everything that you don't need quick access too. Good examples of this are music and 1:1 video where you are just looking to view. It makes no odds to what sort of speed you have there.

 

[tiemannandco]

Fair enough with the Strix, if it's what you want for the bells and whistles then it's a decent buy. It's a great motherboard.

Storage is very personal. You need to have a look at what you want to store on the drives. and how much space you think that will take. Just keep in mind that you can very easily add storage at any time in the future.

Having 2TB of firecuda should go a long way for your projects, pictures and any other fast access that you need. The 3TB is handy for reasonable speeds for files that you use a little more often or want a little quicker access too... such as finished projects I imagine. The 8TB would just be everything that you don't need quick access too. Good examples of this are music and 1:1 video where you are just looking to view. It makes no odds to what sort of speed you have there.

Thanks Scott!!

 

[tiemannandco]

Briefly looking at monitors, some are amd synced, but if I go Nvidia then I cannot make use of the amd sync, right?

 

[tiemannandco]

Fair enough with the Strix, if it's what you want for the bells and whistles then it's a decent buy. It's a great motherboard.

Storage is very personal. You need to have a look at what you want to store on the drives. and how much space you think that will take. Just keep in mind that you can very easily add storage at any time in the future.

Having 2TB of firecuda should go a long way for your projects, pictures and any other fast access that you need. The 3TB is handy for reasonable speeds for files that you use a little more often or want a little quicker access too... such as finished projects I imagine. The 8TB would just be everything that you don't need quick access too. Good examples of this are music and 1:1 video where you are just looking to view. It makes no odds to what sort of speed you have there.

I quite like that config, and they add to 13 which is also kool.
And like you said before, more can be added later.

 

[Scott]

Briefly looking at monitors, some are amd synced, but if I go Nvidia then I cannot make use of the amd sync, right?

AMD Freesync is compatible Nvidia. GSync is the only tech that's exclusive to Nvidia only. Any Adaptive Sync monitor will be compatible with Nvidia & AMD cards.

 

[tiemannandco]

AMD Freesync is compatible Nvidia. GSync is the only tech that's exclusive to Nvidia only. Any Adaptive Sync monitor will be compatible with Nvidia & AMD cards.

Can one get a 4k BenQ like monitor, good for both cad work and with higher refresh rates / lower response times to do some basic gaming on it by any chance?

 

[tiemannandco]

AMD Freesync is compatible Nvidia. GSync is the only tech that's exclusive to Nvidia only. Any Adaptive Sync monitor will be compatible with Nvidia & AMD cards.

Thanks Scott!!

 

[Scott]

I'm really not the guy to talk about monitors to be honest. My experience with them is very limited.

What I WILL say is that the 2070 is not suited to 4k for gaming. It'll handle 4k desktop use in its sleep, including any applications you want to run, but gaming is another kettle of fish. Down-scaling to 1440p or 1080p looks awful on a 4k screen IMO (real world usage by myself), even just on the desktop. The 2070 is aimed at high end 1440p so I would stick with that.

For meaningful 4k you're looking at a 2080Ti GPU, the 2080 Super will get you in the door but it's not a single card solution right now (again, IMO).

 

[tiemannandco]

I'm really not the guy to talk about monitors to be honest. My experience with them is very limited.

What I WILL say is that the 2070 is not suited to 4k for gaming. It'll handle 4k desktop use in its sleep, including any applications you want to run, but gaming is another kettle of fish. Down-scaling to 1440p or 1080p looks awful on a 4k screen IMO (real world usage by myself), even just on the desktop. The 2070 is aimed at high end 1440p so I would stick with that.

For meaningful 4k you're looking at a 2080Ti GPU, the 2080 Super will get you in the door but it's not a single card solution right now (again, IMO).

Okay, 1440 gaming is going to be more than fine with me, thanks; just worried that I heard in reviews that a 4ms 60hz refresh, which is the Ben q designer monitor can be laggy

 

[Scott]

I would be amazed if that was anything other than a measurement taken using software, rather than the eye. Even if it was, to a professional, I would be amazed if it was noticed by anyone other than a gaming pro who is looking to play incredibly high fps shooters at the highest end.

It's a little like saying a 660p is a slow HDD IMO.

Get the monitor you want from a reputable source with a good returns policy. If you are not satisfied and 100% happy, return it and opt for another

4ms response...
1000ms in a second
4ms response = 250 responses per second.
You would, effectively, need to be over 244fps to notice it.

 

[tiemannandco]

I would be amazed if that was anything other than a measurement taken using software, rather than the eye. Even if it was, to a professional, I would be amazed if it was noticed by anyone other than a gaming pro who is looking to play incredibly high fps shooters at the highest end.

It's a little like saying a 660p is a slow HDD IMO.

Get the monitor you want from a reputable source with a good returns policy. If you are not satisfied and 100% happy, return it and opt for another

A BIG THANKS AND A BIG THUMNS UP!!

 

[tiemannandco]

Order placed, now is only a matter of waiting.. Nail Biting Wait..
Also spoke to BenQ and yes, the 4K PD monitors appear to be the best way forward..
I should really post the whole set up when done as it has been a community - supported set-up really..
Thanks So Much To EVERYONE!!

 

[Scott]

Like I said, a 4k monitor running at 1440p will look pretty poor. Not sure if you have misinterpreted what I wrote or not but for 1440p you want a 1440p screen NOT a 4k one.

 

[tiemannandco]

Like I said, a 4k monitor running at 1440p will look pretty poor. Not sure if you have misinterpreted what I wrote or not but for 1440p you want a 1440p screen NOT a 4k one.

Sorry, I think I did misinterprete..
I thought the PC would be OK to display 4K content, say whilst running AutoCAD, or play a movie, but not run 4K whilst gaming..

 

[Scott]

Yes, it will.... it'll do absolutely fine with 4k for those uses. While gaming it won't look right if it's scaled back though. If the productivity and general desktop use come first then the 4k screen will be fine. I'm just warning that it may not look quite so crisp when gaming.

 

[tiemannandco]

Yes, it will.... it'll do absolutely fine with 4k for those uses. While gaming it won't look right if it's scaled back though. If the productivity and general desktop use come first then the 4k screen will be fine. I'm just warning that it may not look quite so crisp when gaming.

Ahhhhhh..
Would it be worth upgrading to RTX 2080 Super? Or same thing..

 

[tiemannandco]

Yes, it will.... it'll do absolutely fine with 4k for those uses. While gaming it won't look right if it's scaled back though. If the productivity and general desktop use come first then the 4k screen will be fine. I'm just warning that it may not look quite so crisp when gaming.

The 2080 Super Ti is just too way up there in never-happening-land tbh..

 

[Scott]

The 2080 Super would get you in the door of 4k gaming. It won't be maxing out everything at 60+ FPS but it'll fare well enough with Adaptive Sync in play IMO.

Completely up to you if you want to spend the extra cash but everything else supports it.