Hello everyone,
The time has come; it sounds like a Midnight Oil's song
A brief history of my computer's life:
My laptop, the one I'm typing on now and that needs to be replaced, is an ASUS N76VZ (i7 3610QM, 8GB DD3 SODIMM, NVIDIA GT 650M, 17" 60Hz 1080p) bought in september 2013
7 years ago, it was a top level laptop
but, it only had 8GB DDR3 SODIMM, I replaced them with 16GB HyperX,
twice 1TB 5400rpm SATA HDD replaced by a SAMSUNG 840 PRO 512GB and a CRUCIAL M500 960GB,
I also bought a second AC adapter and I've done it well because one of them died 3 years ago
with all these changes, it costed to me about 1900€
The preceding laptop was an ACER Aspire, it lasted 4 years with no change (about 1350€)
Before these, I made powerful desktop configs myself, till I remember since 1989 (up to 3000€/PC, keyboards, mice and monitors not included),
and even before I owned a Sinclair QL with a 640KB Trump Card, Cumana 3"1/2 double disks drive, QL monitor and QL printer (I loved to program in assembler on this computer).
I'm on electronic networks (fidonet,...) since 1992 and internet since 1995, an ibm.net trial was included in the OS/2 Warp 3 box (access thru a 0800 number), I was animator and moderator of various groups on these electronic networks.
English is not my mother tongue as lot of people on this global PCS forum because local PCS forums are (almost) empty.
I also own a MacBook Pro 15" Retina to be changed when macOS will not support it anymore.
Why am I replacing my laptop?
The keyboard is dying, DFGHJKL keys sometimes/often do not respond (the keyboard and maps have been cleaned), Wi-Fi keeps disconnecting/connecting, it is not running anymore at full power despite full cleaning and repasting, some parts of W10 don't work anymore such has the store and all apps based on it, some apps such as NVIDIA Parameters are accessible when they like,... so it is the end for this laptop. Problems are getting worse every week.
Here are the configs I'm interested in, three 17,3" and one 15,6"
I've already compared ASUS, Acer laptops and disqualified them (no RTX, strange keyboard colours on WASD keys, previous gen processors,...)
I have chosen configs based on a MSI so I can compare apples with apples
I'm buying a laptop because if I buy a desktop, I'm dead, my wife will kill me
MSI GS75 Stealth 10SE-091XX ... found at 1990€
17,3" DEFIANCE VII (CLEVO PC70DD2) ... less than 1925€ (also exists in 15,6", CLEVO PC50DD2 ... for 90€ less)
17,3" OPTIMUS PRO XI (TONGFANG GK7MRFR, ref from PCS sister site: fortunetechnology.com) ... less than 1725€ (the 15,6" version has an incomplete keyboard)
15,6" OPTIMUS XI (CLEVO NH55DCQ) ... less than 1575€
17,3" VYPER (TONGFANG GM7MP0P, ref from PCS sister site: fortunetechnology.com) ... same price range as Defiance
Disqualified: incomplete keyboard (why? there is plenty of room to have a full one), misplaced cam an mics
The time has come; it sounds like a Midnight Oil's song
A brief history of my computer's life:
My laptop, the one I'm typing on now and that needs to be replaced, is an ASUS N76VZ (i7 3610QM, 8GB DD3 SODIMM, NVIDIA GT 650M, 17" 60Hz 1080p) bought in september 2013
7 years ago, it was a top level laptop
but, it only had 8GB DDR3 SODIMM, I replaced them with 16GB HyperX,
twice 1TB 5400rpm SATA HDD replaced by a SAMSUNG 840 PRO 512GB and a CRUCIAL M500 960GB,
I also bought a second AC adapter and I've done it well because one of them died 3 years ago
with all these changes, it costed to me about 1900€
The preceding laptop was an ACER Aspire, it lasted 4 years with no change (about 1350€)
Before these, I made powerful desktop configs myself, till I remember since 1989 (up to 3000€/PC, keyboards, mice and monitors not included),
and even before I owned a Sinclair QL
with a 640KB Trump Card, Cumana 3"1/2 double disks drive, QL monitor and QL printer (I loved to program in assembler on this computer).I'm on electronic networks (fidonet,...) since 1992 and internet since 1995, an ibm.net trial was included in the OS/2 Warp 3 box (access thru a 0800 number), I was animator and moderator of various groups on these electronic networks.
English is not my mother tongue as lot of people on this global PCS forum because local PCS forums are (almost) empty.
I also own a MacBook Pro 15" Retina to be changed when macOS will not support it anymore.
Why am I replacing my laptop?
The keyboard is dying, DFGHJKL keys sometimes/often do not respond (the keyboard and maps have been cleaned), Wi-Fi keeps disconnecting/connecting, it is not running anymore at full power despite full cleaning and repasting, some parts of W10 don't work anymore such has the store and all apps based on it, some apps such as NVIDIA Parameters are accessible when they like,... so it is the end for this laptop. Problems are getting worse every week.
Here are the configs I'm interested in, three 17,3" and one 15,6"
I've already compared ASUS, Acer laptops and disqualified them (no RTX, strange keyboard colours on WASD keys, previous gen processors,...)
I have chosen configs based on a MSI so I can compare apples with apples
I'm buying a laptop because if I buy a desktop, I'm dead, my wife will kill me
MSI GS75 Stealth 10SE-091XX ... found at 1990€
| Chassis & Display | Stealth Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 240Hz LED Widescreen (1920x1080) |
| Processor (CPU) | Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 10750H (2.6GHz, 5.0GHz Turbo) |
| Memory (RAM) | 16GB 2933MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB) |
| Graphics Card | NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1 *** not sure if it is the REFRESH one |
| 1st M.2 SSD Drive | 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W) |
| Bluetooth & Wireless | GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0 |
| Operating System | Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence |
| Windows Recovery Media | Windows 10 Recovery partition |
17,3" DEFIANCE VII (CLEVO PC70DD2) ... less than 1925€ (also exists in 15,6", CLEVO PC50DD2 ... for 90€ less)
| Chassis & Display | Defiance Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080) |
| Processor (CPU) | Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo) |
| Memory (RAM) | 16GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB) |
| Graphics Card | NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1 *** it is the REFRESH one |
| 1st M.2 SSD Drive | 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W) |
| Memory Card Reader | Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader |
| AC Adaptor | 1 x 180W AC Adaptor |
| Battery | Defiance Series Integrated 3 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (73WH) |
| Thermal Paste | ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND |
| Sound Card | 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack |
| Bluetooth & Wireless | GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0 |
| USB/Thunderbolt Options | 1 x THUNDERBOLT 3 PORT + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS |
| Operating System | Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence |
| Windows Recovery Media | Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on DVD |
| Dead Pixel Guarantee | 1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs |
17,3" OPTIMUS PRO XI (TONGFANG GK7MRFR, ref from PCS sister site: fortunetechnology.com) ... less than 1725€ (the 15,6" version has an incomplete keyboard)
| Chassis & Display | Optimus Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080) |
| Processor (CPU) | Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 10750H (2.6GHz, 5GHz Turbo) |
| or | AMD Ryzen™ 7 Eight Core Processor 4800H (2.9GHz, 4.2GHz Turbo) |
| Memory (RAM) | 16GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB) |
| Graphics Card | NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1 *** not sure if it is the REFRESH one |
| 1st Storage Drive | NOT REQUIRED |
| 1st M.2 SSD Drive | 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W) |
| Memory Card Reader | Integrated 3 in 1 Card Reader (Full Size SD / SDHC / SDXC) |
| AC Adaptor | 1 x 180W AC Adaptor |
| Battery | Optimus Series Integrated 46WH Lithium Ion Battery |
| Thermal Paste | ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND |
| Sound Card | 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack |
| Bluetooth & Wireless | GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0 |
| USB/Thunderbolt Options | 1 x USB 3.1 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.1 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT |
| Operating System | Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence |
| Windows Recovery Media | Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on DVD |
| Dead Pixel Guarantee | 1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs |
15,6" OPTIMUS XI (CLEVO NH55DCQ) ... less than 1575€
| Chassis & Display | Optimus Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080) |
| Processor (CPU) | Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 10750H (2.6GHz, 5GHz Turbo) |
| Memory (RAM) | 16GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB) |
| Graphics Card | NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1 *** not sure if it is the REFRESH one |
| 1st Storage Drive | NOT REQUIRED |
| 1st M.2 SSD Drive | 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W) |
| Memory Card Reader | Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC) |
| AC Adaptor | 1 x 180W AC Adaptor |
| Power Cable | 1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf European Power Cable |
| Battery | Optimus Series Detachable 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery |
| Thermal Paste | ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND |
| Sound Card | 2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema |
| Bluetooth & Wireless | GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0 |
| USB/Thunderbolt Options | 1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.2 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT |
| Operating System | Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence |
| Windows Recovery Media | Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on DVD |
| Dead Pixel Guarantee | 1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs |
17,3" VYPER (TONGFANG GM7MP0P, ref from PCS sister site: fortunetechnology.com) ... same price range as Defiance
Disqualified: incomplete keyboard (why? there is plenty of room to have a full one), misplaced cam an mics
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