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Juned Hussain

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Hello all,

I require some help. I have never had a PC but have now decided that it’s the time to get one. I’ve built one here with the help of a friend, so I’d like some more insight.

I will be using the PC to play Warzone and general browsing only. My budget is as shows, around the £1000 mark but nothing beyond £1100

Specs:


Case
CIT PYRO RGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
500GB Samsung 870 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W CV SERIES™ CV-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 120 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler (AMD)
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Logo Branding
PCSpecialist Logo
Price: £0.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/aGmAKWUbU!/
 
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You're effectively building an old machine, but can see why with the given budget and current prices. There might be a few tweeks to help but need to know a little more. Have you also looked at the prebuilt market, you might have better luck with specs on off the shelf systems, its at least work checking out with prices like they are.
Be aware, it would likely end up as a throwaway build, rather than a proper custom build with an upgrade path to it.

What monitor(s) have you got/getting? resolution and refresh rate is important
 
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Juned Hussain

Active member
sibun1 said:
You're effectively building an old machine, but can see why with the given budget and current prices. There might be a few tweeks to help but need to know a little more. Have you also looked at the prebuilt market, you might have better luck with specs on off the shelf systems, its at least work checking out with prices like they are.
Be aware, it would likely end up as a throwaway build, rather than a proper custom build with an upgrade path to it.

What monitor(s) have you got/getting? resolution and refresh rate is important
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With prebuilts I have found it hard to find the specs that are exactly needed for what I’m actually using the PC for. I currently have the Samsung C27RG5 Monitor, it has 240Hz refresh rate and is 1920x1080.
 
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Steveyg

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This is about as close as I can get to something I would recommend, this has room for upgrades too later down the line with a newer gen motherboard, RAM to match the Ryzen, better Case and a better PSU to power the lot with room left over for future upgrades

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Surge Protection
6 Socket 2m Surge Protector
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,140.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Fbj8UF670C/
 
sck451

sck451

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You won't hit the framerates that monitors is capable of for that kind of budget on Warzone. I think you'd need something like a 3080 to hit 240Hz. The 1660 Super is probably about as good as you can afford, and online benchmarks suggest it will hit ~100FPS.

@Steveyg's build looks great, though I'd consider dropping down to the 3600 (non-X) to save a little more with no significant loss of performance. I'd also personally want the Tuf motherboard for a bit more future upgradability, but it's not crucial for this price point.
 
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Juned Hussain

Active member
sck451 said:
You won't hit the framerates that monitors is capable of for that kind of budget on Warzone. I think you'd need something like a 3080 to hit 240Hz. The 1660 Super is probably about as good as you can afford, and online benchmarks suggest it will hit ~100FPS.

@Steveyg's build looks great, though I'd consider dropping down to the 3600 (non-X) to save a little more with no significant loss of performance. I'd also personally want the Tuf motherboard for a bit more future upgradability, but it's not crucial for this price point.
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Would @Steveyg’s build be able to hit the framerates the monitor is capable of?
 
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Juned Hussain

Active member
Steveyg said:
This is about as close as I can get to something I would recommend, this has room for upgrades too later down the line with a newer gen motherboard, RAM to match the Ryzen, better Case and a better PSU to power the lot with room left over for future upgrades

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Surge Protection
6 Socket 2m Surge Protector
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,140.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Fbj8UF670C/
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Build looks good by the sounds of things for the budget I’m using, will definitely consider it. Thank you.
 
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If i were to really hack back a spec, yet try to keep as many options open as possible so you do have the ability to get years out of it, /I would do this:
Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,093.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/DKQMmWFX2Z/
 
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Juned Hussain

Active member
Steveyg said:
No nothing at that price range would, you'd need to up your budget significantly to get to 240Hz at 1080p, you'd get around 80-100FPS comfortably though
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I’m okay with that, as stated this is my first PC. I’d like to start somewhere which could be upgraded in the future.
 
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sibun1 said:
If i were to really hack back a spec, yet try to keep as many options open as possible so you do have the ability to get years out of it, /I would do this:
Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,093.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/DKQMmWFX2Z/
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From Here, you can then add over time,
Separate out the drives so you have a fast OS drive and use the 1TB for games only by adding something like a 500GB Samsung 980 Pro
Buy some decent fans to fill the cooling out for the case (only comes with one front one rear)
When you switch to 1440p buy a new GPU (the 240Hz 1080p monitor has a shelf life)
Might add a slight better air cooling choice (noctua maybe) but unless upgrading cpu liquid AIO would be overkill.

The 850RM means youll have no issues with power if you go for a top tier GPU/1440p monitor, not as good as the RMx but not bad and still fully modular.Same price as the 750W RMx which would realistically mean a 3070 as a ceiling and less future beathing room.

If you cut back further on parts you start risking a throwaway machine really, its close to the line.
 
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Juned Hussain

Active member
sibun1 said:
From Here, you can then add over time,
Separate out the drives so you have a fast OS drive and use the 1TB for games only by adding something like a 500GB Samsung 980 Pro
Buy some decent fans to fill the cooling out for the case (only comes with one front one rear)
When you switch to 1440p buy a new GPU (the 240Hz 1080p monitor has a shelf life)
Might add a slight better air cooling choice (noctua maybe) but unless upgrading cpu liquid AIO would be overkill.

The 850RM means youll have no issues with power if you go for a top tier GPU/1440p monitor, not as good as the RMx but not bad and still fully modular.Same price as the 750W RMx which would realistically mean a 3070 as a ceiling and less future beathing room.

If you cut back further on parts you start risking a throwaway machine really, its close to
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sibun1 said:
From Here, you can then add over time,
Separate out the drives so you have a fast OS drive and use the 1TB for games only by adding something like a 500GB Samsung 980 Pro
Buy some decent fans to fill the cooling out for the case (only comes with one front one rear)
When you switch to 1440p buy a new GPU (the 240Hz 1080p monitor has a shelf life)
Might add a slight better air cooling choice (noctua maybe) but unless upgrading cpu liquid AIO would be overkill.

The 850RM means youll have no issues with power if you go for a top tier GPU/1440p monitor, not as good as the RMx but not bad and still fully modular.Same price as the 750W RMx which would realistically mean a 3070 as a ceiling and less future beathing room.

If you cut back further on parts you start risking a throwaway machine really, its close to the line.
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Essentially, this will help me off the go and allows me to upgrade in the future when needs be?
 
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Steveyg

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Juned Hussain said:
Essentially, this will help me off the go and allows me to upgrade in the future when needs be?
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It will yes I think @sibun1 did a better job at building a budget build than I did. He went for a better motherboard and more room on the PSU at the cost of storage space. Which is a brilliant trade off as storage can be easily added later
 
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Juned Hussain said:
Essentially, this will help me off the go and allows me to upgrade in the future when needs be?
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Yes. Call it a skeleton, and you can then flesh it out with parts.
If you could squeeze a little extra, change the cpu to a 5600X, you'll end up with a much better overall platform at the end (and to start)

It'll add £90 to the cost upfront though.
 
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Juned Hussain

Active member
sibun1 said:
Yes. Call it a skeleton, and you can then flesh it out with parts.
If you could squeeze a little extra, change the cpu to a 5600X, you'll end up with a much better overall platform at the end (and to start)

It'll add £90 to the cost upfront though.
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How hard would it be to change a CPU? I wouldn’t mind purchasing it at a later date and fitting it in if possible. Also is it a drastic change if I use the one you recommended initially.
 
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Steveyg

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Juned Hussain said:
How hard would it be to change a CPU? I wouldn’t mind purchasing it at a later date and fitting it in if possible. Also is it a drastic change if I use the one you recommended initially.
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You can watch a couple of Youtube videos on how to do it, it's simple enough but requires a lot of patience and attention to detail. Removing the thermal paste from the CPU cooler will be the most annoying part and then reapplying it with the new cooler.

But then again if you change the CPU you could also go for an better CPU cooler like a Corsair unit that comes with paste pre-applied
 
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It would put you straight onto a modern platform, rather than one from last year (or earlier).
Im told, its easy to change CPU's, i've never done it myself (I was asking similar questions myself about swapping to a 5800X)
It was recommend to me to watch a load of youtube videos showing it step by step.
 
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