need advice first time build

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User9786

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have a pre built pc around 4 and a half years old looking to upgrade
Case
PCS PRISM TG WHITE ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 4800MHz (2 x 16GB) KIT
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7800 XT GAMING - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE LCD XT RGB CPU Cooler

x2 Samsung Odyssey G5 Gaming Monitor - 144Hz, 1ms, 1440p QHD
Will be used for games and max budget would be around £2000
 
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FigmentOfYourImagination

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Case
CORSAIR iCUE 4000X RGB TEMPERED GLASS MID-TOWER ATX CASE - WHITE - Most important part of a build, you don't want to skimp here. Put in a white case given you originally selected white
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB) - 6000 is the optimal speed for AM5 Ryzens
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 GRE - HDMI, DP - DX® 12 - Is faster than the 7800XT but I don't know enough to whether it's £70 worth of faster
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW) - Primary Windows drive
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW) - Secondary games drive. If Windows ever needs reinstalling, you won't need to then re-download your games
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET - Overkill for this build but the Shift series are more efficient than their predecessors (would prefer the 1000w but PCS don't stock it). Speccing the PSU at minimum as you did is ensuring you won't be able to upgrade to a better GPU in future. Better to over-spec now than replace the PSU down the line
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler - Just realised you went for the LCD cooler so you can swap it back. Interestingly, the H150i variant is £8 cheaper
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) - Silver is £5 for an extra 11 courier costs if the PC needs to be returned (failures, if they are going to occur, generally happen within the first 6-12 months)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £2,047.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/rwhcdNeqDb/
 
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The 7900GRE is about 20fps increase over the 7800XT at 1440p, more in line with the 4070TI Super than the 4070 Super that the 7800XT competes with

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should i stay with this motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
or change to this one
ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
been trying to do some research but still not to sure if it is worth it
 
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User9786 said:
should i stay with this motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
or change to this one
ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
been trying to do some research but still not to sure if it is worth it
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It would take you over budget which is why it's not been suggested.

If your budget has changed, let us know the new one and we can redesign the system. The system needs to balance at the budget
 
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took some advice
change the cool as didn't really wont a liquid cooler as i didn't notice that was what i picked
Case
CORSAIR iCUE 4000X RGB TEMPERED GLASS MID-TOWER ATX CASE - WHITE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 GRE - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 200 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £2,032.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/JH5KBCejEe/
 
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FigmentOfYourImagination

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You really want a liquid cooler to use that CPU at it's best (or an air cooler way better than what PCS offer)...and I certainly wouldn't want to swap from a well-known brand to a generic brand (they are PCS branded but no clue who actually makes them). Bear in mind that the liquid AIO coolers require zero maintenace beyond de-dusting the fans (no different to de-dusting other fans) and they are reliable (I had a liquid cooler in my old system for 7 years running 16 hours a day without a single issue and they are even more reliable now)

Extra fans: They are not necessary as the case already comes with 4 fans (2 front, 1 rear)..adding more fans doesn't always mean better airflow. They will also add noise to the system as they don't run as quiet as the Corsair fans

Anti-Virus: You don't want Norton...it is a resource hog and is no better than the free Defender built into Windows

Warranty: Up to you but £5 for an extra 11 months is a bargain,
 
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Scoped Badger said:
Baffling how people ask for advice and then do what they want anyway.
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guess you did check properly i have take the advice and have done more research
some of the thing i was advised to do have been done but still making sure i get the best for my money
thanks for your irrelevant reply
 
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User9786 said:
guess you did check properly i have take the advice and have done more research
some of the thing i was advised to do have been done but still making sure i get the best for my money
thanks for your irrelevant reply
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No one on here will spec a system that doesn't give you the best bang for your buck, fit a naff cooler and it won't cool properly and therefore thermal throttle so you wont get the best performance
 
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User9786 said:
guess you did check properly i have take the advice and have done more research
some of the thing i was advised to do have been done but still making sure i get the best for my money
thanks for your irrelevant reply
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You've made the build that FigmentOfYourImagination made worse by saving money on a cooler to upgrade your motherboard, then tried to lessen the effect of said change by adding extra case fans. If you're going to use the extra USB ports the motherboard offers then great, get that one, but not at the cost of going from a quality, recognised cooler to a, quite frankly, sub-standard one for this type of build. You've got the best CPU on the market at the moment, you want to get the best out of it. Cutting costs on a cooler is not the way to do it, in my opinion.
 
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This is what people don't understand about system designing.

A System is only as good as it's weakest component, it's all about balance throughout the system to maintain optimal performance.

This is the same in nature, technology, you name it, any system has the same limitations, create a bottleneck and the output quality suffers.

The amendments you've made have created a bottleneck on the CPU, while upping the motherboard. The motherboard upgrade is irrelevant to system performance either way, but the cooler choice has now limited your CPU performance and you'll lose out on the available boost clocks as a result, so you've worsened the system, not improved it.

This is why we always as for a max budget at the outset is so that we can balance it to that price, and avoid all this what about if I change this and that, how do I reduce the money? If your budget changes, you need to say so, if you've given a budget but are looking to reduce costs, then obviously that's not your actual budget and you need to step away and think about your actual needs and come back later to start again.
 
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