Davidek846
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It's a massive cost for me, I'm looking for some re-assurance
Looking for a GOOD Music/Production PC
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You have it, it's good advice.
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Plus I've changed the spec a bit - It's in Building now
Might be helpful if you can explain why you've chosen to change the spec from what was previously advised, else you're asking folk to basically tell you the same stuff again
Something like what was done in Post #2 by @sck451 would go a long way to help.
For example: You don't need any special pastes as the thermal paste that comes with the AIO's is high enough quality. Not sure why you've selected it now.
Davidek846
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@steaky360 probably just being over zellous on that, My last PCS Laptop suffered from overheating quite a bit
What about the rest of the changes?... ie) You've gone back to AMD with seemingly no explanation given the previous advice was in favor of intel?
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From my research, The Ryzen 7 will be ample for my needs. I think its a matter of taste more than anything.
I also updated the Cooler to CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET and added the 3600mhz RAM
I also decided on these MSI 27" Optix G27C6 - 1920 x 1080, 1MS, 165Hz for my monitors after reading reviews
I also updated the Cooler to CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET and added the 3600mhz RAM
I also decided on these MSI 27" Optix G27C6 - 1920 x 1080, 1MS, 165Hz for my monitors after reading reviews
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I think all advice/questions will be immaterial now!
Your PC will be really good. Could you have had better for your money? Probably, but it will still be a really good PC.
(Though one piece of advice if you haven't ordered those monitors yet: I'd suggest changing them. 27" 1080p is not a good combination.)
Your PC will be really good. Could you have had better for your money? Probably, but it will still be a really good PC.
(Though one piece of advice if you haven't ordered those monitors yet: I'd suggest changing them. 27" 1080p is not a good combination.)
Davidek846
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Care to elaborate on that?
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In terms of the monitors?
1080p is a resolution. It means that there will be 1920 pixels width on the display and 1080 pixels height. On a 27" display, this means that there will be a pixel density of 81.6 pixels per inch (PPI). This is really quite low.
For 1080p displays, 24" is the top resolution where you get an acceptable pixel density: 92.8PPI. If you want a 27" display, I'd suggest going for 1440p. This means 2560x1440 pixels and gives you a density of 109PPI. This is a very significant increase in clarity: this is especially useful for text at fairly small sizes. For your use case, it will mean you can fit a lot more on your screen (tracks, etc.).
So I'd recommend you go for 27" 1440p displays. If you're not gaming, the 165Hz resolution is pointless, as is a very fast response time, so you can look at something in the 60-75Hz range to save money.
That would get you a far better experience than 27" 1080p gaming displays.
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Fair enough, I needed a big(ISH) screen - And can't justify the extra £75+ per monitor for a 1440 at the moment.
When I'm teaching I use one monitor for the student and one for me I'll have a play around with the settings and see what I can get it to perform like. If it's too bad I'll sell them on and replace in the future.
When I'm teaching I use one monitor for the student and one for me I'll have a play around with the settings and see what I can get it to perform like. If it's too bad I'll sell them on and replace in the future.
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PCS will sell you the IIYAMA ProLite B2791QSU-B1 for £215. I think that's £20 more than the ones you're buying? They'd be far better for you.
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Whats the difference between the one you have mentioned and this one
27" MSI OPTIX MAG272CQR
Davidek846
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especially with the 3050
The previous build advice still applies and would lead to a better system all around. Same with the advice on the monitors, 1440p is ideally what you would want for a reasonable desk space for your uses.
To ask for advice and get it, only to not follow it and then ask for verification of the non-taken advice seems very strange to me. Maybe taking a leaf out of the student book there though
Every area you have cut a corner on is a detriment of the build (PSU & cooling for the main, AMD & RAM being a performance degradation).
It won't be a bad system by any means, but it won't be as good as your budget suggested & allowed for.
To ask for advice and get it, only to not follow it and then ask for verification of the non-taken advice seems very strange to me. Maybe taking a leaf out of the student book there though
Every area you have cut a corner on is a detriment of the build (PSU & cooling for the main, AMD & RAM being a performance degradation).
It won't be a bad system by any means, but it won't be as good as your budget suggested & allowed for.
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The MSI is much better, but I doubt it would help you much for music work. For video production or gaming, absolutely.
The Iiyama is a budget monitor. It's a TN panel, which isn't great in terms of colour accuracy or viewing angles, but it doesn't seem likely you'll be making much use of those. It's 75Hz, which is plenty for you.
The MSI is also a budget monitor, but aimed more at gaming. It's a VA panel, which is sort of mid-range: good, but not outstanding for colour accuracy and viewing angles. It's curved, which I dislike for productivity work; it's aimed more at gaming. It's 165Hz, which is for gaming: you don't need more than 60Hz for music work.
I wouldn't normally recommend a TN panel for anything. I would much rather have the MSI (or actually I'd suggest the monitor I have myself, the AOC Q27G2U, as it's flat), but if it's the Iiyama or a 27" 1080p display, I'd go for the Iiyama.
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Thank you @sck451 I have gone with the MSI as I prefer curved and 165hz may benefit my Video Work for recording lessons etc - in answer to @Scott I have built this PC now and will take on board what has been said. The advice is very minimal changes needed. I have however removed the Thermal Paste and up'd the PSU
I am still standing by Ryzen though
I am still standing by Ryzen though
For the avoidance of doubt, the advice was: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/foru...-a-good-music-production-pc.87716/post-666408Thank you @sck451 I have gone with the MSI as I prefer curved and 165hz may benefit my Video Work for recording lessons etc - in answer to @Scott I have built this PC now and will take on board what has been said. The advice is very minimal changes needed. I have however removed the Thermal Paste and up'd the PSU
I am still standing by Ryzen though
Which you've not taken onboard ... which I'd suggest was @Scott's point
Davidek846
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@steaky360 Seems the argument about the Intel/Ryzen - Yes the quote was slightly cheaper on his build. I get it.
If someone ( a continuted customer) wants advice, they don't have to stick to it, alot of this is personal and maybe some what individual to the use cases.... I dont beleive I have cut corners on much that warrants this kind of negativity around my build
If someone ( a continuted customer) wants advice, they don't have to stick to it, alot of this is personal and maybe some what individual to the use cases.... I dont beleive I have cut corners on much that warrants this kind of negativity around my build