Looking at a better 4k gaming PC

robin h 25

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As much as it's OCD if you have too much extraction you will have a negative pressure case which will draw in LOADS of dust. be interesting to see your OCD at play there haha.
True,

I seen couple of video of Youtube of other people's builds, with the same case and the added extra LL120 fans and how they have there's set up,

The 3 front fans as intake,
The 2 CPU rad fans as exhaust up top,
The 1 rear fan as exhaust, - standard plain fan, replaced with an LL120
The 2 bottom fans as intake,

5 fans intake and 3 exhaust, if this has better airflow with the air pressure's?

This is kind of what i would be hoping for if i order the 3 extra fans, if not maybe it's best to drop the 3 extra fans and just buy 1 LL120 / LL140 fan to replace the rear exhaust fans and try fit it myself and hope i don't mess it up.
 

robin h 25

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No matter what happens as of the fans, I do want to replace the standard plain rear fan with a LL120 or LL140 to match the front 3 LL120's, with the case being windowed ( it just looks better with the iCUE lighting software with all the RGB light affects sync'ed ),

I find it weird that case's that are windowed and offer RGB fans to not include a RGB fan at the rear, Having seen and read that most people who do buy windowed RGB fan case's, end up spending a little more and replacing the plain rear fan for an RGB one,

If Corsair had included a LL120 / 140 as a rear exhaust fan, along with the front 3 LL120's of the 680x case, i wouldn't need to think of getting / replacing the plain fan, As i'm not really too bothered about having an extra 2 fans at the bottom of the case, I just want to replace the plain rear fan ( for looks, as it does look better in my opinion ).

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Just noticed the AMD 3700x has it's choice of game offers come back, so seeing that there not that much of a difference between 3700x and 3800x, i'm going back with the 3700x for the Outer Worlds game,
 
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robin h 25

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I've decided to order my build today, I can't wait any longer already having the 2080 ti waiting, And with the 3700x game offer being back and 3 month PC Xbox game pass included,

This is how the final build looks as i ordered it...
Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 680X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

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Get 3 Months of XBOX Game Pass for PC w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs

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The Outer Worlds -OR- Borderlands 3 w/ select AMD Ryzen CPUs
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB CORSAIR MP600 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 4950MB/R, 4250MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Price: £1,352.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/ZFF!fCDZK9/

Just go with your build, see what happens :)

I've dropped the 3 extra fans, but i have bought elsewhere, one LL140 fan to replace the stock plain rear fan and will give it ago at fitting it myself, after watching a number of Youtube on how to fit them, kind of looks simple but still scary at the same time having no real clue / know how to PC building,

As of right now, i'm thinking of the fans, it's going to be either 3 fans intake ( front ) and 3 exhaust ( roof and rear ) or 5 intake ( front and roof ) and 1 exhaust ( rear ). i have no idea what would be the better option unless both are fine like this?.
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
Consider the cpu cooler as 1 fan for your calculations.
You want it pulling cold air into the case.
Have the intake system 1 fan higher than the out.

If you can, replace 2 of the front fans with the AIO cooler on intake. Have 2 exhausts on the top and 1 intake on the back. That will be optimum as the hot air from the gpu will be pulled right out the roof.
 

robin h 25

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Just been looking it up, and the AIO cooler/ radiator of the H100i wont fit in the front at 240mm, the front can only fit 280mm or 360mm radiator's, but to keep the look of having the 3 LL120 fan's on the front panel, it would have to be a 360mm rad, As a 280mm would only be able to have 2 LL140 fans on the front panel, which is not the look i want,
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This is the look am going for, as to why i bought 1 extra LL140 fan to replace the stock non RGB rear fan as in this picture, but to flip the rear fan around to make it an intake, i lose the look of the dual light loop on the fan as it would be facing into the back of the case, ( i know there will still be RGB light bleed from the fans but it wont look as good as what i'd want, as in this picture )
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I do know one thing, I'm not having my GPU set up like this, in this picture o_O:eek:.
 
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Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
With a 280 rad you can still have another fan above it. It just wouldn't be attached to the rad.
 

robin h 25

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I've looked into the fans and rad abit more and found and website that state's, that a 240mm rad can fit on to the front panel, but Corsair's website state's / show's the front can only hold 280mm / 360mm rad's, which is where i pulled the pictures from,

With a 280mm rad that has 140mm fans, the front panel can only hold 2 140mm fans, as there's not enough space for another, 3rd 140mm fan, not even a 120mm fan,

However, seeing as the front panel can hold 3 120mm fans, i don't see how it can't not hold a 240mm rad, but why its not shown on Corsair website, yet some site state that it can, i don't know?,
with that in mind, the rad would take up place behind the bottom and middle front fans? or behind the top and middle front fans?.
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
I've looked into the fans and rad abit more and found and website that state's, that a 240mm rad can fit on to the front panel, but Corsair's website state's / show's the front can only hold 280mm / 360mm rad's, which is where i pulled the pictures from,

With a 280mm rad that has 140mm fans, the front panel can only hold 2 140mm fans, as there's not enough space for another, 3rd 140mm fan, not even a 120mm fan,

However, seeing as the front panel can hold 3 120mm fans, i don't see how it can't not hold a 240mm rad, but why its not shown on Corsair website, yet some site state that it can, i don't know?,
with that in mind, the rad would take up place behind the bottom and middle front fans? or behind the top and middle front fans?.

Ahh, I'm with you now. Given how fans attach with the rad etc I can't think of any reason 2 120mm fans would fit without a rad. Makes sense that they would. My guess is it's probably the recommendation to fill the space.
 

robin h 25

Well-known member
Thank you for all the help and advice with my build(y),

I Got my new PC today and very happy with it so far,

I Benchmarked Forza Horizon 4 again at 4K with maxed out setting, from my previous Example i did, Just to see how much of a bottleneck i was getting with the 2080 ti, testing it, in my old system,
Example of just one game:
Forza Horizon 4, played / tested / benchmarked at 4K, maxed out every in game setting on both 980 ti and 2080 ti for a comparison,
980 ti - min FPS: 31, avg FPS: 34, max FPS:38,
2080 ti - min FPS: 69, avg FPS: 75, max FPS: 79,

Temperature on both cards are about the same, no higher than 70-71c,
Now I'm seeing..
New build with 2080 ti, min FPS: 74, avg FPS: 89, max FPS: 107,

As for the radiator placement, it's in the roof of the case, exhausting, which give's the case 3 front intakes, rear is exhaust and roof is exhaust
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Seeing how close the the front top intake fan is to the rad/rad fans, the top front fan will be feeding cool air straight to the rad fans,
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With 3 intakes and 3 exhausts, will the air pressure be balanced, is in, will it be ok? not to much negative or positive pressure?
Because i'm thinking of leaving it how it is for the time being, and seeing how the temp's will be after some time and heavy gaming,

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As someone, who has no knowledge or know how on PC building, it was scary as hell to replace that stock rear non RGB fan, for a LL140 RGB fan and swapping over the 1TB HDD from my old PC 🥵😅🥳.
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
You're likely to have positive pressure most of the time so that will work out just fine. When the CPU fans aren't at full choke (which is hopefully most of the time) the front fans will out-flow them creating a slightly positive pressure.

You're unlikely to see much heat soak with that much airflow going over everything, but yeah... suck it n see :D

That looks rather pretty. Have you gone for some custom colours yet?
 

robin h 25

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That looks rather pretty. Have you gone for some custom colours yet?
I can't yet find a custom colour setup to go with, as there's so many combo options to go through🌈, it's still on spiral rainbow, which i'm liking so far, also i'm liking the rain ( rainbow ) effect too,

Having had my PC for a week now, and had the chance to do abit of heavy gaming, on games such as Forza Horizon 4, The Outer Worlds, Space Hulk Deathwing, CoD Modern Warfare, Metro Exodus and recently bought Star Citizen,

The temp's seem to be doing fine, While gaming, I've yet to see the CPU hit 34c and GPU is around 68-74c, While idling, surfing the internet, watching Youtube video's, Twitch/Mixer stream's, both CPU and GPU temp's are in the mid 20's.

I did come across an issue while playing CoD Modern Warfare, as it was the only game i had, that has ray tracing, so i though i'd try ray tracing out, it was going ok until a new level loaded up and most of the textures ended up looking like an shiny oil slick rainbow effect, at that point, i'm thinking i might have an issue with my GPU, but with it being the only ray traced game i had ( no issues with ray tracing turned off ), i decided to use my 3 month Xbox PC Gamepass and get Metro Exodus to try out ray tracing on, to make sure it not my GPU that the issue, i'm seeing no issues at all playing Metro with ray tracing on, My guess is that its the Call of Duty game that has some issue with ray tracing, not that I've seen any difference with ray tracing on or off, unlike Metro, which i can tell the difference when ray tracing is on.
 
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