Laptop choice

[DavidVerdelhan986]

Hello,

Which is better, valeon (tongfang) or recoil (clevo)?

Thanks by advance

 

[Bhuna50]

Its not a question of what is better, valeon or recoil, but more a question of what is better for your needs and as such we would want to know what is your usage for, requirements, why a laptop etc, budget etc etc

Valeon at the moment offers only AMD Ryzen, and Recoil only offers Intel - so does the Intel v AMD arguments come in as well.

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There will likely be arguments for and against both

 

[DavidVerdelhan986]

Ok so ,

I have a budget about 2000-2500 euros
I want to use it for gaming and simulation of casting and forging.
My requirement is 32 gb of ram and 1 Tb of ssd minimum
I want a laptop because i have to move in different place.

 

[Bhuna50]

So is that ProCast and QForm you use ?

Are you in need of the decent RAM amounts for Qform extrusion / Ring rolling?

 

[DavidVerdelhan986]

I use forge NXT from transvalor and quickcast from ESI group
I need fast report of simulation and i want to do better mesh in different part of piece.
This is foundry (metal in a mold) and forging (metal hit by metal)

 

[DavidVerdelhan986]

This kind of software need a lot of ram and a good processor (and i am not good for the choice of a good processor)

 

[Bhuna50]

OK - cant seem to find much about those programs by way of minimum spec requirements, but you are talking about two different types of laptop. If it is really processing power you need then the Recoil is probably best as it is what is known as a Desktop replacement laptop - comes with a full power desktop processor - the downside is that its probably a bit bulky for portability terms and comes with 2 power units so more to carry around - if not plugged in then battery times probably very limited.

RAM can be up to 128 I believe in the recoil and Valeon is 64 max.

However budget would prevail anyway on these selections.

I assume you will also be looking at least having a 1TB hard drive in the machine too.

 

[DavidVerdelhan986]

That kind of spec ?

Spoiler: Valeon

Chassis & Display
Valeon Series: 17.3" Matte QHD 165Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1440)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen™ 9 Eight Core Processor 5900HX (3.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3080 - 16.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Valeon Series Integrated 62WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
VALEON 17 SERIES RGB BACKLIT FRENCH KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM7ZG8M (16GB RTX-3080, R9-5900HX, 165Hz QHD, Blank KB)
Delivery
2 DAY DELIVERY TO FRANCE
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 11 to 13 working days
Price: 2 241,67 € including VAT and Delivery

 

[DavidVerdelhan986]

For me the best problem for the recoil he up in price really fast and go easily about 2600-2900

 

[Bhuna50]

looks good - you may want to consider having your OS on a separate smaller M2 drive in case you ever need to reinstall windows then you dont lose your software / saved files.

Also, are you looking at this on the UK site to ship to France - you will be better off ordering on the French site as this then incorporates French VAT and actually includes the Gold warranty in as standard - which I would recommend Gold warranty for such an expensive laptop.

 

[DavidVerdelhan986]

I have make that for english spec.
In french i have in base gold warranty
Yeah this a good advice !