Is This PC good for very light gaming

[Gamer_]

Hi, I am building my first PC with a £400 budget. I will be using this for Minecraft, Rocket league and rogue company mainly. I'm looking for decent graphics and 30+ FPS. If this isn't good, can you recommend a better build?

Case
PCS 3601 CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Athlon 3000G Dual Core CPU (3.5GHz) & Radeon™ VEGA 3 Graphics
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME A320M-K: Micro-ATX, AM4, USB 3.0, 6GB/s
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st Storage Drive
256GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (500MB/R, 400MB/W)
Power Supply
PCS 250W 80+ BRONZE POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £358.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[Martinr36]

I'll be blunt, you aren't going to get anything worth talking about gaming wise at that type of price, you realy need about 5 times that amount, so I'd save some more money

 

[xedative]

I'll be blunt, you aren't going to get anything worth talking about gaming wise at that type of price, you realy need about 5 times that amount, so I'd save some more money

Five times that amount? 2000 pounds for Minecraft and Rocket League?

 

[Martinr36]

you might get away with about £1500 - £1600, prices are sky high at the minute due to low stock & high demand

 

[Citrus_9]

This is the absolute minimum for minor simple older games and mainly office work without a path for upgrades. Basically, an emergency PC for 1-2 years at max until more money saved for a proper gaming PC.

Case
THERMALTAKE V200 2.0 TEMPERED GLASS RGB EDITION GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
512GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,083.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/kq4D2DFmNK/

 

[Citrus_9]

This is a proper gaming PC for 1080p monitor with a possibility to upgrade in future.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX MB530P ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,410.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/4Fr!8cNA7G/

 

[xedative]

If you or anyone you know can create a Windows installation copy on a CD (if your build has an optical drive) or on a USB stick, you'll be able to save around ~£100 by not including an operating system.

This Microsoft link explains how to create and use installation media you've created.

Download Windows 10

 

[Citrus_9]

If you or anyone you know can create a Windows installation copy on a CD (if your build has an optical drive) or on a USB stick, you'll be able to save around ~£100 by not including an operating system.

This link explains how to create and use installation media you've created.

Download Windows 10

Yep! You're talking about Windows 10 licence transfer from old machine to new machine I've dropped a link below explaining it. But OP said it's the first PC, so we can assume OP doesn't have a Win10 licence, that's why I have included Win in the specs.

Transferring digital windows 10 license to new machine

Hi all Quite a few people already have a windows 10 License which they want to transfer over to the new PC. Windows 10 now makes this easy, even if you have an OEM license, you can legitimately turn it into a "digital license" by tying it to your microsoft account, and then transfer it legally...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

 

[JUNI0R]

Hi, I am building my first PC with a £400 budget. I will be using this for Minecraft, Rocket league and rogue company mainly. I'm looking for decent graphics and 30+ FPS. If this isn't good, can you recommend a better build?

Case
PCS 3601 CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Athlon 3000G Dual Core CPU (3.5GHz) & Radeon™ VEGA 3 Graphics
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME A320M-K: Micro-ATX, AM4, USB 3.0, 6GB/s
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st Storage Drive
256GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (500MB/R, 400MB/W)
Power Supply
PCS 250W 80+ BRONZE POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £358.00 including VAT and Delivery

At this price point, I'd look at getting a Console, they'll be much better suited to your budget and give you better performance. If you're coming from a console I'd continue to save until about £1200 (in todays market) and you'll be able to get a proper PC that's worth the money. As much as this build might be able to run games if you were to put something like a 1030 in it, it won't be an enjoyable experience and has no future upgradability what so ever.

The PC market is really up the shoot right now, what used to be a good entry level graphics card now costs double if you're able get your hands on one for retail. Hopefully in the time it takes you to save things will hopefully normalise and we'll be able to get you a nice rig for a better price. I know it sucks to hear this but keep in there and the wait will be worth while.

 

[xedative]

This is the absolute minimum for minor simple older games and mainly office work without a path for upgrades. Basically, an emergency PC for 1-2 years at max until more money saved for a proper gaming PC.

Case
THERMALTAKE V200 2.0 TEMPERED GLASS RGB EDITION GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
512GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,083.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/kq4D2DFmNK/

I think this is a bit of an overestimation of how demanding the games in the OP (and older games in general) are. I've squeezed out 50 FPS in Hell Let Loose and 80+ in Killing Floor 2 on a GTX 680 rig with 4GB of DDR3 RAM and an Intel i5 3550 quad-core. That same setup played Minecraft at 200+ FPS—I'm quite sure it could have easily run Rocket League and Rogue Company as well.

I'd say if you're recommending a setup with no path for upgrades anyways, drop the SSD to a 256GB. That in itself is more than enough to fit in an entire operating system and all the mentioned games (I used to run an SSD of that size with the OS and World of Warcraft on it). Maybe drop the RAM down to 8GB as well, as that's one of the parts that can be upgraded here. I think I'd even go as far as to suggest switching the GPU to a 1050 Ti to save money on what's essentially a bare minimum build.

 

[Citrus_9]

I think this is a bit of an overestimation of how demanding the games in the OP (and older games in general) are. I've squeezed out 50 FPS in Hell Let Loose and 80+ in Killing Floor 2 on a GTX 680 rig with 4GB of DDR3 RAM and an Intel i5 3550 quad-core. That same setup played Minecraft at 200+ FPS—I'm quite sure it could have easily run Rocket League and Rogue Company as well.

I'd say if you're recommending a setup with no path for upgrades anyways, drop the SSD to a 256GB. That in itself is more than enough to fit in an entire operating system and all the mentioned games (I used to run an SSD of that size with the OS and World of Warcraft on it). Maybe drop the RAM down to 8GB as well, as that's one of the parts that can be upgraded here. I think I'd even go as far as to suggest switching the GPU to a 1050 Ti to save money on what's essentially a bare minimum build.

We don't do that here. We only recommend PC for future, not for past. If PC use cases are limited, best is to buy a prebuilt or used PC, or a console.

New custom PC is for existing and upcoming games and software, keeping in mind they're more CPU or GPU demanding. Many of us recommend only what we think is worth to pay the money for and we would feel comfortable buying for ourselves.

If OP wants to buy a throw away PC, it's their choice, their money. If you want to recommend the OP to get the cheapest components at minimum, it's up to you. But make sure to describe what you're recommending so OP wouldn't have too high expectations thinking these specs could do much, while actually it would be closer to an office PC from the past 5 years ago.

256gb is only 180gb as you can't use more than 70% without a speed drop. Win10 is around 20gb plus each bigger update is around 6-7gb. Just a few programmes, some files, few games and a storage gets full which slows down the whole system. HDD is very slow and in new builds normally used just for files' archive, not software or games.

Edit: fair point, RAM could be dropped to 8GB 3000MHz. Not sure if worth, though, as that would save only around 60 pounds.

 

[xedative]

We don't do that here. We only recommend PC for future, not for past. If PC use cases are limited, best is to buy a prebuilt or used PC, or a console.

New custom PC is for existing and upcoming games and software, keeping in mind they're more CPU or GPU demanding. Many of us recommend only what we think is worth to pay the money for and we would feel comfortable buying for ourselves.

It didn't occur to me to look at it that way—my apologies.

 

[Citrus_9]

It didn't occur to me to look at it that way—my apologies.

No worries, we're all learning from each other here and there's no right or wrong, just better or worse.

I've amended my above thoughts and added regarding your suggested RAM change. I think it's a valid point for an entry system, where need to be budget conscious. Dropping RAM to 8GB (I'm not a fan of it as I think nowadays machines should have 16GB) would reduce the total price of the whole system.

 

[NoddyPirate]

No worries, we're all learning from each other here and there's no right or wrong, just better or worse.

I've amended my above thoughts and added regarding your suggested RAM change. I think it's a valid point for an entry system, where need to be budget conscious. Dropping RAM to 8GB (I'm not a fan of it as I think nowadays machines should have 16GB) would reduce the total price of the whole system.

I would also worry that Windows sitting idle will use most of an 8GB RAM install. 🤔

 

[DarTon]

I'm probably speaking out of place here as a newbie. I just don' think customs builds are useful sub-£1000. You are paying for flexibility/upgrade potential and you haven't got the budget to do that. You need to monetize the discount from standard configs.

So raise the budget to £800-1000 and some PCS gaming PCs at Currys become available.

If the budget is £400 or so then I think the best you can do is go for a factory second from a well known manufacturer/legitimate reseller. It might have a scratch on the case but as long as the internals are fine. So something like an i5-10400, 16gb 2666Mhz Ram, 256gb NVMe SDD, Win10 installed, Mini tower and 1y RTB warranty is £420 from a legitimate reseller. Fit a new 1TB HDD and that's £460. Problem is no GPU. Now one of my children plays Minecraft ok on an 8GB i7-6700 with no external GPU, and the i5-10400 has far better single and multi-core performance. I can't speak for Rocket league and Rogue Company.

Surely though the right solution here is just a console? Buy a second hand or refurb Xbox for <£200 and use the balance to help save up for a PC in 2022+?

 

[Citrus_9]

I'm probably speaking out of place here as a newbie. I just don' think customs builds are useful sub-£1000. You are paying for flexibility/upgrade potential and you haven't got the budget to do that. You need to monetize the discount from standard configs.

So raise the budget to £800-1000 and some PCS gaming PCs at Currys become available.

If the budget is £400 or so then I think the best you can do is go for a factory second from a well known manufacturer/legitimate reseller. It might have a scratch on the case but as long as the internals are fine. So something like an i5-10400, 16gb 2666Mhz Ram, 256gb NVMe SDD, Win10 installed, Mini tower and 1y RTB warranty is £420 from a legitimate reseller. Fit a new 1TB HDD and that's £460. Problem is no GPU. Now one of my children plays Minecraft ok on an 8GB i7-6700 with no external GPU, and the i5-10400 has far better single and multi-core performance. I can't speak for Rocket league and Rogue Company.

Surely though the right solution here is just a console? Buy a second hand or refurb Xbox for <£200 and use the balance to help save up for a PC in 2022+?

As a newbie (🤣) you have some valid point along with great ideas! 😉

 

[MrWilson]

I am also of the opinion that going for a console is the way to go here if you're only looking for gaming performance. A new Xbox Series S will be cheaper than the system you've specced above and will outperform it substantially. It also has keyboard and mouse support if that was something that you were interested in.

With PC component prices at a high, I would highly recommend going down the console route for anyone with under £1000 budget.

 

[Mashup47]

I agree with the buying of a console if you have less then £1000 for a gaming pc but I would go for the XBox X rather then the s as the X series dose 12 teraflops, has blue ray drive (so you can buy up those old xbox games and play them up scaled), a 1 tb harddrive and dose 4k gaming all for an extra £80-£100. Were as the S series dose 4 teraflops, No blue ray drive, but has 500gb harddrive, and dose 1440p gaming

 

[MrWilson]

I agree with the buying of a console if you have less then £1000 for a gaming pc but I would go for the XBox X rather then the s as the X series dose 12 teraflops, has blue ray drive (so you can buy up those old xbox games and play them up scaled), a 1 tb harddrive and dose 4k gaming all for an extra £80-£100. Were as the S series dose 4 teraflops, No blue ray drive, but has 500gb harddrive, and dose 1440p gaming

On a slightly larger budget I would agree with looking at the X, it is an all round better product. I went with the S in this instance as OP mentioned a £400 budget. If choosing to go down the console route I would recommend spending a little extra and going for the X over the S.

 

[Gamer_]

Hi, im trying to get a pc for gaming. I want to play Games like minecraft, rockrt league and maybe even Warzone. I have a budget of £750 or around $1000. Can anyone recommend a build for something like this?