is this over the top for a casual gamer?

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large7500

Member
Hi all, looking for some feedback on the below build idea. I play online in the evenings, mostly Apex, Enlisted, that sort of thing. I want to put my existing graphics card in to save some money but would love some expert advice as to if I'm wasting money on unnecessary parts?

Thanks for any advice!

Graphics card (My existing card)​

Palit NE51060015J9-1060D NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card​


Case
THERMALTAKE V200 2.0 TEMPERED GLASS RGB EDITION GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.6GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (4 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
4TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W CV SERIES™ CV-650 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
Asus Xonar AE 7.1-Channel Gaming Audio Card
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
FAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Price: £1,870.00 including VAT and Delivery
 
sck451

sck451

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There's a whole bunch that could be changed, mostly making it cheaper! Will you be doing anything other than gaming?

Could you post the configurator link to make it easier to change?
 
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Steveyg

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This is about as high end as it gets at the minute for gaming, It also has enough room and power to let you add any GPU you want in the future

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,474.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Dm7Vp0Z4Xq/
 
sck451

sck451

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Yeah, as @Steveyg says, you can spend much less and get a system that will actually be better in games. If you have an old graphics card already, I presume you have a computer that you're retiring. If so, you could transfer Windows off it and save £105.

I actually think even @Steveyg's build is quite a luxury one: I'd personally think you would be OK with a 5600X CPU and B550 motherboard, a lesser cooler and perhaps a cheaper case. If you do already have a copy of Windows, this could bring the cost down to £1050ish. I know you have the budget, but there's nothing to be gained by spending for no performance benefit!
 
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Steveyg

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sck451 said:
Yeah, as @Steveyg says, you can spend much less and get a system that will actually be better in games. If you have an old graphics card already, I presume you have a computer that you're retiring. If so, you could transfer Windows off it and save £105.

I actually think even @Steveyg's build is quite a luxury one: I'd personally think you would be OK with a 5600X CPU and B550 motherboard, a lesser cooler and perhaps a cheaper case. If you do already have a copy of Windows, this could bring the cost down to £1050ish. I know you have the budget, but there's nothing to be gained by spending for no performance benefit!
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Absolutely, I went with the idea that you didn't need a GPU right now and had a budget of around £1,800 and thought I could definitely build something fantastic and still make considerable savings

You could definitely build something around the £1000-£1200 mark that would also be super solid, I just swung for the fences
 
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large7500

Member
Steveyg said:
This is about as high end as it gets at the minute for gaming, It also has enough room and power to let you add any GPU you want in the future

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,474.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Dm7Vp0Z4Xq/
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Thank you so much! Saved me a fair few quid there :)
 
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ColEyt

Gold Level Poster
The below is with a graphics card, just a step up in generation

If you just want to use your own card then the below system would cost approx £1168 inc VAT.

Whilst I appreciate that your budget appears to be a lot higher, for someone who declares themselves as a casual gamer, I would think this would be more than good enough, with the occasional new graphics card purchase throughout the years

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,538.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/NXV3Hrrbnh/
 
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Steveyg

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
ColEyt said:
The below is with a graphics card, just a step up in generation

If you just want to use your own card then the below system would cost approx £1168 inc VAT.

Whilst I appreciate that your budget appears to be a lot higher, for someone who declares themselves as a casual gamer, I would think this would be more than good enough, with the occasional new graphics card purchase throughout the years

Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,538.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/NXV3Hrrbnh/
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Only things I would change is the motherboard and case, I would go for the TUF B550 with this board and I would go for the 4000D case
 
sck451

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I'm not personally convinced a 1060 to 2060 upgrade is a sensible one. It's not a huge upgrade: I'd stick with the 1060 until such time as I could do a bigger upgrade. (Indeed, @large7500, a budget of £2000 is about what you need to do a full upgrade to 1440p, including new monitor and graphics card...)
 
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ColEyt

Gold Level Poster
Steveyg said:
Only things I would change is the motherboard and case, I would go for the TUF B550 with this board and I would go for the 4000D case
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My mistake on the motherboard thought I had selected the TUF one. The case I just left as what you had put in the build, don't know enough about cases to reject/recommend one over the other ;)
 
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ColEyt

Gold Level Poster
sck451 said:
I'm not personally convinced a 1060 to 2060 upgrade is a sensible one. It's not a huge upgrade: I'd stick with the 1060 until such time as I could do a bigger upgrade. (Indeed, @large7500, a budget of £2000 is about what you need to do a full upgrade to 1440p, including new monitor and graphics card...)
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And I agree hence why I mentioned the price without the card as well. However not knowing how old the OP's card is, just thought it was worth giving the option, although I'd prefer to save the additional £400 and stick with the older card as you suggested.
 
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Steveyg

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ColEyt said:
My mistake on the motherboard thought I had selected the TUF one. The case I just left as what you had put in the build, don't know enough about cases to reject/recommend one over the other
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5000D is larger and has more room than the 4000D, it just lets you mount larger radiators. I usually select that case (5000D) with the 5800X because the 5800X runs so hot, the extra room and ability to go for the higher end coolers really helps

The 5600X doesn't run anywhere near as hot so you don't need the larger radiators or coolers. The smaller case just gives you more places you can put it
 
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Steveyg

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sck451 said:
I'm not personally convinced a 1060 to 2060 upgrade is a sensible one. It's not a huge upgrade: I'd stick with the 1060 until such time as I could do a bigger upgrade. (Indeed, @large7500, a budget of £2000 is about what you need to do a full upgrade to 1440p, including new monitor and graphics card...)
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I'd agree with this, I would be looking to upgrade to a 3070 or a 3060Ti in future. Or I'd wait until the next gen in Nvidia GPU's
 
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large7500

Member
Thanks guys, one last question please. I was under the impression its best to have a small SSD to install the OS on?
Does it make a massive difference having my games on an SSD instead of an HDD?
 
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Steveyg

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large7500 said:
Thanks guys, one last question please. I was under the impression its best to have a small SSD to install the OS on?
Does it make a massive difference having my games on an SSD instead of an HDD?
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There is a small 500GB Samsung 980 Pro that's lightening quick for your OS and maybe a few key programs

There is also a 1TB M2 SSD included for games that have long loading times or could benefit from fast write speed. Depending on the game an SSD can make a massive difference to performance

Then I included a 2TB HDD for general storage of files, videos, pictures or games where load times aren't a problem
 
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CMP01

Enthusiast
I'm going with the idea (as mentioned above) of a smaller but fast, say 250-500Gb, m.2 for the OS and apps and a bigger, maybe not as fast one for game installs (especially compared to HDD's aso as game loads these days are getting crazy long)
And then after that, yeah, SATA SSD/HDD etc for older/lesser games/data aso if needed.
It's what I did 5 years ago, works well, and am doing again.

Also, for gaming alone plus casual everyday uses, the 5600X has serious chops (but I don't know if it's comparably priced to the other CPU's mentioned) Obviously, if OP ever intends to do anything more serious and heavy than gaming, a 5800X etc might be better but at this point there's no great reason to go Intel tbh.

Other than that, 1060 to 2060 isn't the best upgrade given the performance of newer GPU's... or wouldn't be under normal circumstances, those new cards are hard to get and overpriced... so any upgrade, if close to MSRP might be good for now until that craziness gets better. The 4000D Airflow case is great for most uses tbh, with the 5000D only better for extreme, 7+ fan cooling and the bigger coolers/GPU's aso.
 
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