Is this build a good alternative to a console?

[fredwerk]

Case
FRACTAL TERRA Mini ITX Case (GRAPHITE)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core CPU (Up to 5.2GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE B650I AORUS ULTRA (Mini-ITX, AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 32GB) KIT
Graphics Card
12GB ZOTAC GEFORCE RTX 4070 SUPER Twin Edge - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR SF850L 850W 80 PLUS® Gold Certified High Performance SFX-L PSU
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 55 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Operating System
Windows 11 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence

I want to use a PC build on my Sony Bravia 4K 55 inch (I don’t remember model but worked well with all latest consoles), instead of a console, mainly due to lower costs in games and being open to a greater and diverse marketplace.

I’m looking for a PC build, small and “quiet” within a budget of £3000, which will stand beside TV, hence why a small case.

Primary use is 100% gaming and consuming movies.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Please read the newcomers section which you agreed to before you posted.

 

[Tron1982]

Hello,
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[fredwerk]

Hello,
We need the full spec and your future use case ^^
So, please read this before we can help you

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Did I not post the full specs? I want a PC which is as powerfull if not more than XBSX or PS5 Pro in a compact case.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Did I not post the full specs? I want a PC which is as powerfull if not more than XBSX or PS5 Pro in a compact case.

Yes, so if you want to go through that it takes you through what you need to post

 

[Ekans2011]

I want a PC which is as powerfull if not more than XBSX or PS5 Pro in a compact case.

I honestly don't believe you can get a decent mini-itx for the same price as the consoles you stated.
Plus, mini-itx are always subject to significant tradeoffs in terms of components, airflow, and future platform upgrades. Personally, if given the choice between a mini-itx and a PS5, I'd go with the latter, 100%.

 

[fredwerk]

I honestly don't believe you can get a decent mini-itx for the same price as the consoles you stated.
Plus, mini-itx are always subject to significant tradeoffs in terms of components, airflow, and future platform upgrades. Personally, if given the choice between a mini-itx and a PS5, I'd go with the latter, 100%.

Thanks. Costs are not so much of a problem. What about the power/performance of this build? Can it rival a latest gen console?

 

[Ekans2011]

Thanks. Costs are not so much of a problem. What about the power/performance of this build? Can it rival a latest gen console?

The options for this type of build are quite limited; you're usually stuck with previous generation motherboards, very limited GPU capacity (max 4070 SUPER), old ATX 2.4 PSUs (no room for future upgrades), and three times the price of an Xbox/PS5. Has this made sense? Personally, I'd say no. If you want advice, please read the thread and add all the required information. Thanks.

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[FigmentOfYourImagination]

Consoles and PCs are 2 very different beasts. Whilst a console may have lesser specs on paper to an equivalent PC, it doesn't mean it performs less because every component in a console has been designed to work seamlessly together..unlike a PC they aren't pieces of hardware that are brought together later.

But, as mentioned above, a mini build is going to massively reduce the options available to you. Does it absolutely, by necessity need to be an ITX build? Some of the full tower cases aren't very big

To give a clear and concise opinion, the following is needed (as outlined in the resources linked):

- Budget: "costs are not so much of a problem" doesn't really help. We need a hard ceiling otherwise you might as well just put the most expensive choice on every option and hope it performs well. Everyone has a maximum they are willing to spend.
- Use case: A system for 100% only gaming is different to a system that is mostly gaming with some editing or streaming etc thrown in.
- Monitor: For a gaming system, this is important because you match the graphics card to the monitor to avoid wasting money...you could throw in a near £2k 4090 for a 1080p144Hz monitor and it wouldn't perform much better than a £400 4060Ti as the limitation is the monitor.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Thanks. Costs are not so much of a problem. What about the power/performance of this build? Can it rival a latest gen console?

Until you answer all of the question raised and post as requested, there's nothing we can do except say that build makes zero sense.

You're not helping us yet expecting us to somehow magically be able to help you. Think about it. We've asked kindly several times now, it's down to you in how you want to proceed.

 

[fredwerk]

Until you answer all of the question raised and post as requested, there's nothing we can do except say that build makes zero sense.

You're not helping us yet expecting us to somehow magically be able to help you. Think about it. We've asked kindly several times now, it's down to you in how you want to proceed.

I updated my post, I hope this helps.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I updated my post, I hope this helps.

I give up, all the best, if you're having this much trouble using a forum, then I don't think you're ready for a custom PC, you're going to really struggle managing windows.

 

[fredwerk]

I give up, all the best, if you're having this much trouble using a forum, then I don't think you're ready for a custom PC, you're going to really struggle managing windows.

I added more info regarding monitor, usage and budget. What’s missing? Seriously, I used many forums before, I used windows since 3.1, etc you don’t have to be insulting.

And I have read the link you sent me, several times.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I added more info regarding monitor, usage and budget. What’s missing? Seriously, I used many forums before, I used windows since 3.1, etc you don’t have to be insulting.

And I have read the link you sent me, several times.

Why on earth are you reading all this as me being rude? Seriously? We've asked 6 times for the same info, and you've still not provided what's been asked for.

Perhaps some self evaluation is required?

 

[fredwerk]

Why on earth are you reading all this as me being rude? Seriously? We've asked 6 times for the same info, and you've still not provided what's been asked for.

Perhaps some self evaluation is required?

Looking back to the other posts, I believe I have answered the questions in my original and edited post. If not, can you tell me exactly which questions I didn’t answer?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Looking back to the other posts, I believe I have answered the questions in my original and edited post. If not, can you tell me exactly which questions I didn’t answer?

The links are still there, they haven't changed, I'd suggest actually taking your time to digest what's in it.

 

[Ekans2011]

I want to use a PC build on my Sony Bravia 4K 55 inch (I don’t remember model but worked well with all latest consoles), instead of a console, mainly due to lower costs in games and being open to a greater and diverse marketplace.

I’m looking for a PC build, small and “quiet” within a budget of £3000, which will stand beside TV, hence why a small case.

Primary use is 100% gaming and consuming movies

Aside from the cost, which is not an issue given the stated budget, there are still issues with the physical impossibility of adding 4K resolution components (GPUs) in mini-itx cases, as well as the inability to upgrade the build itself (PSUs).

What are the maximum allowable dimensions for the case?

 

[fredwerk]

Aside from the cost, which is not an issue given the stated budget, there are still issues with the physical impossibility of adding 4K resolution components (GPUs) in mini-itx cases, as well as the inability to upgrade the build itself (PSUs).

What are the maximum allowable dimensions for the case?

Would the RTX 4070 Super not allow to play games in 4K? I currently use an Alienware R11 with a 2080 Ti connected to my TV and I can play games in 4K.

As such, I could have a full blown size of a case beside the TV but wouldnt be discreet. This is why I choose a smaller case, in line or as close a possible to console size. Future upgrades is not a concern as long current prposed above build is as powerfull or more to current gen console.

 

[Ekans2011]

Would the RTX 4070 Super not allow to play games in 4K?

No, it is not. The 4070 SUPER is NVIDIA's entry-level GPU for 1440p.

I currently use an Alienware R11 with a 2080 Ti connected to my TV and I can play games in 4K.

This is hard to believe: the 2080ti's relative performance is comparable to the 4060ti, a 1080p GPU.

Future upgrades is not a concern as long current prposed above build is as powerfull or more to current gen console.

I'm afraid this isn't how Custom PCs work: you should create a system that's good now and could be good for the rest of its life.
Limiting this capability voluntarily is not the most forward-thinking decision.

You are saying you do not wish to upgrade? The GPU will bottleneck sooner or later; at that point, you must have a platform capable of handling the next generations.

As such, I could have a full blown size of a case beside the TV but wouldnt be discreet. This is why I choose a smaller case, in line or as close a possible to console size.

Consoles and PCs cannot be compared because they are two fully different systems.
Frame rates on consoles are determined by developers and must adhere to a specific standard hardware configuration (closed system).
The PC is an open system that allows the user to customize their experience based on a custom setup.

 

[fredwerk]

Thanks for your help.

“Performance Expectations: - The RTX 2080 Ti is one of the more powerful GPUs from its generation and can handle 4K gaming reasonably well” while I agree it’s not the best GPU to play at 4K, it does work well.

What if I want a custom build PC that is as good if not better than a console, and last as long as a console? Hence why upgrades wouldn’t be so important to me.