is this a good gaming pc for the future

[nannymcp]

Case
PCS 3601 CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 - HDMI
1st Storage Drive
1TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3210MB/sR | 1315MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W CV SERIES™ CV-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
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Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
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United Kingdom - English Language
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[AgentCooper]

To be slightly blunt... no. The B450 motherboards are coming to the end of their lifespan, whereas the B550 will manage a chip change or two, the X570 even longer. The power supply is also at the lower end of the scale and will struggle to cope with newer GPUs as they’re released.

What’s the budget and what monitor will you be using? We might be able to come up something that’s built to accept future upgrades 👍

 

[TheDOG]

The real question is what are you planning on using it for? Gaming wise on modern titles with decent frame rate this will struggle now. Let alone in the future. If this is a pc intended for everyday use with maybe older game titles it will be *OK*, but this is more of a generic build for browsing and using the pc for work/light pleasure. That's my opinion on the build. BUT I Know NOTHING about AMD. I am only going on the info about the GPU and motherboard. I could be completely wrong so wait for some more replies 🙂

 

[AgentCooper]

The real question is what are you planning on using it for? Gaming wise on modern titles with decent frame rate this will struggle now. Let alone in the future. If this is a pc intended for everyday use with maybe older game titles it will be *OK*, but this is more of a generic build for browsing and using the pc for work/light pleasure. That's my opinion on the build. BUT I Know NOTHING about AMD. I am only going on the info about the GPU and motherboard. I could be completely wrong so wait for some more replies 🙂

The thread is titled ‘IS THIS A GOOD GAMING PC FOR THE FUTURE’, I think that kinda answers your post...

 

[Deleted member 17413]

Some poor choices for components and a dead end when it comes to upgrading too.
I wouldnt touch that motherboard, case or M.2 drive, and for the purposes you are aiming at (considering the title) you will be very disappointed.

 

[Gavras]

€900 what do you advise

Unless you have a burning need to buy one this month, save some more cash and get a better build that fits in more with the thread title.

 

[Deleted member 17413]

Wait a month or so, new AMD chips are due out, GPU's are in the process of releasing.
Two months time a lot of things will have dropped in price and you will be able to get a better spec for the same money.

The monitor is only a 1080p 75Hz anyway, so no point getting a high spec GPU, but £900 total still means cutting a lot of corners and you will end up with a dead end build still if you buy now.

In a few months, with the new AMD CPU series being released, the current ones will likely drop in price, possible you will see the same with the GPU's too once they release the 3060, I would expect the 1660 and 2060 to both drop in price too.

 

[Deleted member 17413]

If you really must buy now, then you would be looking at something like the build below, but the PSU and motherboard will both limit upgrade potential and you arent getting anything particularly great either.

Case
CORSAIR 275R AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 SUPER - HDMI
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
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STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
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Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
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[SpyderTracks]

You have received good advice above, tbh, I wouldn't buy a system at that budget, you won't be doing yourself any favours. A gaming PC at the very least meets the criteria that the platform is strong enough to handle any upgrade over 7 - 10 years lifespan, if it doesn't meet that, it's not considered worthwhile. The one you've posted is a throwaway pc, you'd have to ditch it after a year, possibly year and a half.

Save up a bit more, get a proper pc.

 

[SpyderTracks]

thank you for the good advice

Please post here, don’t post duplicates, the advice will remain the same. Any differing builds need to be posted here so people can see the progression.

 

[SpyderTracks]

sorry for the duplication. My problem is that I want to buy a gaming pc for my husband for christmas. My budget is limited. He is not a professional gamer he just likes strategy games. He uses Steam and Total War age of Empires and Man of War. He has an 1080 monitorI would like to buy a pc that will last me a few years. He also wants one with a dvd player. got this list yesterday and I would need more advice before I spend,

As above, advice is the same, save up a tiny bit more to make it a worthwhile build, you’ll need about 950euro for a basic pc build. You don’t need to save up much more but it will make all the difference.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Case PCS GENESIS G1B CASE + SD CARD READER
Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM) 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 SUPER - HDMI
1st Storage Drive 1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB
CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive 512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA
QUIET
Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz
PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT
PORTS
Operating System Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from
Online Account
Office Software FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty 3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3

Is this good enough lots of delays because of Covid need to order now

You would need a much better case, I wouldn’t go less than the Corsair listed above

 

[SpyderTracks]

You'll want a 650W TXm PSU, it's not about what the build needs now, it allows you to upgrade in the future when the GPU starts to struggle. The GPU will be the first bottleneck in any system.

I'd drop bullguard and the extra fan.

Other than that it's fine.

 

[Deleted member 17413]

You have received good advice above, tbh, I wouldn't buy a system at that budget, you won't be doing yourself any favours. A gaming PC at the very least meets the criteria that the platform is strong enough to handle any upgrade over 7 - 10 years lifespan, if it doesn't meet that, it's not considered worthwhile. The one you've posted is a throwaway pc, you'd have to ditch it after a year, possibly year and a half.

Save up a bit more, get a proper pc.

Im getting this framed and put on my wall...

 

[Deleted member 17413]

Pretty much, yes...you might get one upgrade on the GPU, but the PSU will limit further ones, motherboard same again in that it may take one CPU upgrade... you will get a couple of years out of it, but its not a system that will last you a decade/upgrade properly as you go.

Not without taking the core parts out and upgrading the entire build, which is the same as a new computer.

 

[nannymcp]

Pretty much, yes...you might get one upgrade on the GPU, but the PSU will limit further ones, motherboard same again in that it may take one CPU upgrade... you will get a couple of years out of it, but its not a system that will last you a decade/upgrade properly as you go.

Not without taking the core parts out and upgrading the entire build, which is the same as a new computer.

Thank you

 

[SpyderTracks]

Is this true will this be a throwaway pc. Being an OAP I’ve learned a lot from you but I don’t want to be stupid and buy something useless. Thank you for all the support and knowledge you have given me👌

Your original build was, the one you posted last that I gave this advice to was sound:

You'll want a 650W TXm PSU, it's not about what the build needs now, it allows you to upgrade in the future when the GPU starts to struggle. The GPU will be the first bottleneck in any system.

I'd drop bullguard and the extra fan.

Other than that it's fine.

 

[nannymcp]

Your original build was, the one you posted last that I gave this advice to was sound:

Will have a look at that thank you for your advice

 

[Scott]

You want the airflow case rather than the compact one. The compact one is closed off and not the best for "airflow" or temps.

 

[Scott]

I would opt for a better PSU and drop the Bullguard security. The built in Windows Defender is the best option for general use.