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I haven't had time to go through reviews (some of us have to work you know!) but this chart from Tom's Hardware caught my eye:
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If I'm reading it correctly, we're talking just a few frames between these CPUs, so is there a case that 7600x or 5800X3D would be the best choice for pure gamers, and leave the 7900x and 7950x for creators doing renders etc?

And Paul's Hardware has a nice cost comparison of a 5800X3D build vs 7950X build, perhaps showing that for those on a budget, sticking with AM4 might give the best bang for buck, given the higher entry point to AM5:
 
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SimonPeters116

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Looking at slightly older previews, pricing, core specs, etc, I think the one I want a 7700X.
So I'm now waiting, with bated breath, for the reviews on those. (Breathe man, breathe :rolleyes: )
Why I want a 4 core, as opposed to a 3 core, I don't know. 6 and 8 core would be totally OTT, and the pricing for those is way over my budget anyway.
 
SpyderTracks

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SimonPeters116 said:
Looking at slightly older previews, pricing, core specs, etc, I think the one I want a 7700X.
So I'm now waiting, with bated breath, for the reviews on those. (Breathe man, breathe :rolleyes: )
Why I want a 4 core, as opposed to a 3 core, I don't know. 6 and 8 core would be totally OTT, and the pricing for those is way over my budget anyway.
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7700x is 8 cores :)
 
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IRLRobinS said:
If I'm reading it correctly, we're talking just a few frames between these CPUs, so is there a case that 7600x or 5800X3D would be the best choice for pure gamers, and leave the 7900x and 7950x for creators doing renders etc?

And Paul's Hardware has a nice cost comparison of a 5800X3D build vs 7950X build, perhaps showing that for those on a budget, sticking with AM4 might give the best bang for buck, given the higher entry point to AM5:
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I would agree with this summary. For gamers at 4k (and a good few 1440p) the bottleneck is the GPU so best to throw the money at that rather than the expensive new motherboard/memory/cpu combo that AMD are now launching.
 
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I will be donning a 7900x with a X670 mobo (probably a Taichi), some lovely GSkill RAM, an upcoming Samsung Gen 5 NVME and an ATX 3 PSU (probably EVGA to show support). Then I will polish it off with an AMD 7800XT GPU.

This will be the first time for that kind of configuration since a build in about 2003 when I had all AMD.

Blimey, who would have thought even 4 years ago!

And for prices, my records have gone up from around £20 to over £30, if you notice, all streaming services are going up, almost any silicon, it's a inflation nightmare on top of a global recession, but markets are only just catching up. You think these prices are bad, wait for 6 months time. And this is for a few years to come unfortunately, there's no escaping it.
 
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Charlielrb

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Be my first PC Build since 2011.

Been donning Laptops since due to travelling around.

Hoping for a 7700x X670 and a 3070ti. Hopefully all fit within my £2.2k-ish budget!
 
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From the few reviews I'm seeing it does appear that custom loops have validity again in the gaming space and any space really to keep optimal clocks.
 
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Charlielrb said:
How are PCS for queues?
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Not too bad actually. It was crazy over the pandemic as was everywhere but that was very unusual.

I think also, most people upgraded over th pandemic so will skip this release so I don't think queues will be too bad. Maybe 1 month at a guess?

Please don't take that as any official kind of answer, I don't work for PCS, this is purely going on how I've seen demand through the forum since 2014 when I joined
 
SimonPeters116

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Charlielrb said:
Hoping for a 7700x X670 and a 3070ti. Hopefully all fit within my £2.2k-ish budget!
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I'm thinking very similar, but I'll put in a 2nd hand 2070 Super for now.
I'm waiting for a 4060/4070, or AMD equivalent. They're suggesting early next year for Nvidia, I'm not sure about AMD.
I also want a new monitor, to replace my old 1080p. Thinking that the Gigabyte M34WQ-EK hits the spot for me.
The big question is RAM. X670 mobos are DDR5. I've got very limited knowledge of that. Those reviews suggest 6000MHz is a good speed, and apparently 32 GB is a minimum. Also that 2 sticks is preferable to 4.
 
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Charlielrb

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SpyderTracks said:
Not too bad actually. It was crazy over the pandemic as was everywhere but that was very unusual.

I think also, most people upgraded over th pandemic so will skip this release so I don't think queues will be too bad. Maybe 1 month at a guess?

Please don't take that as any official kind of answer, I don't work for PCS, this is purely going on how I've seen demand through the forum since 2014 when I joined
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Yes 100% agree! This a big fundamental change too so alot may be putting off!

I've waited 4-5 months another won't do any harm. I understand about the official answer! Just nice to hear from someone who's been around the forums for a while to gauge things.

Hopefully up bright and early to get the order in!
 
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My take on the reviews I've watched so far (the LTT one, which just confused me and seemed to be mostly editorial, the J2C one and the HUB one) is that the thermal behaviour is complex. I imagine there will be other videos coming out soon that will explore exactly what is required and what different coolers will do to performance. AMD seem very confident that 95°C all day every day is just fine. I'm sure this content will be coming soon.
 
Davo64

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Charlielrb said:
Be my first PC Build since 2011.

Been donning Laptops since due to travelling around.

Hoping for a 7700x X670 and a 3070ti. Hopefully all fit within my £2.2k-ish budget!
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Similar here! I think I'm gonna push to a higher budget though since I tend to do a lot of CPU-intensive stuff and I want to be prepared for a few years of good hammer lol

The reviews I've seen so far definitely look promising, though with the changed boost management the temperatures sound mildly terrifying lol. AMD says it's fine and I guess we'll have to take them at their word, but I guess I'm gonna be spending on a strong cooler to get as much out of it as possible, and I do hope that outside of 100% usage long tasks it doesn't spend too long at 95C otherwise my room is gonna get toasty in the summer (at least it'll be a good dual-purpose heater during the winter! 😂)

I'm still not 100% decided on what to do about GPUs but I'm leaning towards just going big now tbh, though the call of new generation graphics hardware is certainly tempting, even if it's gonna take some bravery to open up the machine so soon!

Either way, I'm definitely gonna be spending the coming days configuring the setup and seeking advice! I'm certainly more than a little excited to get a new machine into my hands!
 
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