So I guess you guys may have encountered this question elsewhere but I need to ask someone with some knowledge of cpus If budget is not an issue and to some extent is not for me should I go for hexacore or Quad core I got confused since each core in the Quad core model has a higher clock speed than the hexacore 3.6ghz vs 3.3ghz theres also the issue of games that do not utilis quad core cpus let alone using six cpus in the hexacore I am not into overclocking at all I just want a cpu which provide extreme performace :turned:
Hexacore vs Quad Core
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Bah I really should write everything I need to in one long message but I keep forgetting stuff so here goes final issue I personally found Ivy bridge as a let down for desktop gamers as its maximum core frequency is 3.5gh (3770-k) compared to the existing 3.6ghz (i7-3820) am I missing something or the new ivy bridge slower? I don't really care about those integrated graphics crap since I want a separate gpu so I don't see that as an advantage at all for the ivy bridge cpus
Second point is 16gb of ram necessary? or would 8gb suffice ?
Cheers!
Second point is 16gb of ram necessary? or would 8gb suffice ?
Cheers!
tom_gr7
Life Serving
8gig of ram is more than plently for gaming, so go with that option,
a quad core is also more suitable for gaming than a hexacore, more new games (bf3) have started using quad cores.
Also ivy is probably better for gaming as opposed to sand bridge cpu's because it supports pci 3.0, as the new gpu's are designed for pci 3.0, (simply pci 3.0 allows gpus to send more info - something like that) in short defo get ivy if getting a new gpu, esp if you want to crossfire/sli
What gpu ya thinking of getting?
hope that was some sorta help
a quad core is also more suitable for gaming than a hexacore, more new games (bf3) have started using quad cores.
Also ivy is probably better for gaming as opposed to sand bridge cpu's because it supports pci 3.0, as the new gpu's are designed for pci 3.0, (simply pci 3.0 allows gpus to send more info - something like that) in short defo get ivy if getting a new gpu, esp if you want to crossfire/sli
What gpu ya thinking of getting?
hope that was some sorta help
Fear
Prolific Poster
If you are gaming then what tom has said above but if your editing then it depends on the software you will be using and if thinking of going for an sli/crossfire setup to make the most of the new Pci 3.0 you would need a board that has 2 of these slots and as it's new most boards only have 1 slot capable at the moment so you will not get the full performance.
Wolvo7
Bright Spark
There's a lot more to CPU performance than the clock speed, the only time you could accurately say that a higher clocked CPU performs faster is if you're comparing 2 identical CPUs at different clock speeds or 2 CPUs of the same generation. Since Ivy Bridge has a different architecture to the Sandy chips you can't base your comparison on clock speed to determine which CPU is the fastest. Best to look online for benchmarks.
Also both the 3770k and 3820 have 4 physical cores, so you'd have to go for the 3930k to get a hexacore CPU. Bear in mind that both these CPUs support hyperthreading which means that you have 4 additional virtual cores, bringing your total to 8.
Finally check out these benchmarks click the 3770k outperforms the 3820 in every test, which confirms what I said earlier about core frequencies
Tom I will be getting the gtx 690 I know its overkill and not required but I want it :tt1:
I will also be getting the Asus Rampage mother board thanks
So gaming is better with hexacore? I just checked [http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/443?vs=551] and the ivy bridge edges the Hexacores with every single game I am not looking for web designing and rendering etc im confused now lol XD
if you get a quad core then i recommend that you get one with hyperthreading
It may not be effected now but in the near future games will want more than 4 cores and you wont be able to supply it and your gtx 690 will not be pushed to its max as you will have to drop the settings for the CPU
It may not be effected now but in the near future games will want more than 4 cores and you wont be able to supply it and your gtx 690 will not be pushed to its max as you will have to drop the settings for the CPU
tom_gr7
Life Serving
In that case ya defo want the ivy with with pci 3.0 support
sorry mate, disagree, a quad core is more than strong enough for a 690! if ya opted for a 6 core sandy-bridge such as I7-3930K, then ya lose pci 3.0 support, exactly what a 690 being a dual GPU will require. That would cause a bottleneck as the gpu's cant send all the info via pci2.0 as bandwidth will be fully saturated.
Ah crap I dont think I can use Asus Rampage for those darn ivy bridge cpus but I want the best motherboard
If you want a rampage i'd wait till asus release a IVy rampage mobo, which they will, when i dont know, but they will.
Buzz
Master
In terms of day-to-day tasks like web browsing, email and word processing, Hyper-Threading won’t have much of an impact. Hyper-Threading is theoritically better at multi-tasking. However, today’s processors are so fast that basic programs are rarely limited by the speed of your processor
mantadog
Superhero Level Poster
For gaming alone, 4 cores is enough and you wont bottleneck a GTX 690 with a 3770k. Get the 3770k that way you can overclock if you ever need to, it can supply 4 virtual cores if needed and it's not silly money.
Anything more than a quadcore right now it at the upper end of things and not needed for gaming as not enough people have them to justify games being developed for them. In a couple of years i bet they will be needed for high end games, but buying a 6 core now for gaming in a couple of years without pci 3.0 support is not a good idea.
Anything more than a quadcore right now it at the upper end of things and not needed for gaming as not enough people have them to justify games being developed for them. In a couple of years i bet they will be needed for high end games, but buying a 6 core now for gaming in a couple of years without pci 3.0 support is not a good idea.
What would the best motherboard money could buy for an Ivy Bridge cpu? I personally do not want to wait for Rampage Ivy mobos (since I was told rampage mobos are the best) it will probably come out in a few months maybe? maybe the sabretooth? but its only got 2 pci 3.0 slots compared to 4 of the rampage :/
tom_gr7
Life Serving
sabertooth all the way mate, you could still add another 690 on that board, but like wozza says you don't need another 690, as its already two 680's in one card. Although the option is there.
What other pci-e/pci devices are you wanting?
sabertooth all the way mate, you could still add another 690 on that board, but like wozza says you don't need another 690, as its already two 680's in one card. Although the option is there.
What other pci-e/pci devices are you wanting?
like high definition sound cards? or high speed wireless cards? I am not sure if they require pci slots but if they dont please let me know lol excuse my noobness
tom_gr7
Life Serving
yeah they do mate,
i will create a thread and explain pci cards later today and link to you it. in my opinion you don't really need a high end soundcard unless
1. you love awesome quality sound, maybe to meet needs of music production,
2. you want to get Dolby digital 5.1 in games,
3. if you have a high end sound system or a high end gaming headset.
if ya want more soundcard advice let me know
If you want a wireless card, many people on here including myself will recommend investing a in set of homeplugs as opposed to a wifi card. Wifi is great for laptops, however, for desktops ya want the strongest most reliable connection you can get. unfortunately wireless can be affected by all sorts of things within ya house that can negatively effect ya connection, scuh as the distance between the pc and the router, microwaves, cordless telephones, thick walls. I tried wireless when i first got my pc, year it was ok, but my house has big thick old school walls, the signal wasnt strong enough and i had regular drop outs, even though i have one of them new bt hub 3.0 routers. Anyway since getting homeplugs, specifically this set, I have never ever had a single internet drop out!There are much cheaper sets, that one just allowed me to plug another device into the homeplug so I didn't lose the wall socket.
yeah they do mate,
in my opinion you don't really need a high end soundcard unless
1. you love awesome quality sound, maybe to meet needs of music production,
2. you want to get Dolby digital 5.1 in games,
3. if you have a high end sound system or a high end gaming headset.
if ya want more soundcard advice let me know
If you want a wireless card, many people on here including myself will recommend investing a in set of homeplugs as opposed to a wifi card. Wifi is great for laptops, however, for desktops ya want the strongest most reliable connection you can get. unfortunately wireless can be affected by all sorts of things within ya house that can negatively effect ya connection, scuh as the distance between the pc and the router, microwaves, cordless telephones, thick walls. I tried wireless when i first got my pc, year it was ok, but my house has big thick old school walls, the signal wasnt strong enough and i had regular drop outs, even though i have one of them new bt hub 3.0 routers. Anyway since getting homeplugs, specifically this set, I have never ever had a single internet drop out!There are much cheaper sets, that one just allowed me to plug another device into the homeplug so I didn't lose the wall socket.
Cool I will definitely wait for your pci explanation thread ! the reason I want high def sound is because I may also watch movies on the system so I may buy the SP2500? speakers you know those gaming specific speakers so I assumed It would be no point buying such expensive speakers if im using low spec sound cards. I was thinking of getting the Fatal 1ty champion sound card I was wondering if this card produces high quality sound only for gaming or can also produce it for films etc?.
However I think HD sound is offered as standard via on board 6 channel system on most gaming systems?
cheers for all the help!