Help me pls

[anatasw]

hello, With this build I would like to be able to play and stream but mostly play and one day maybe stream without too many drops in fps
right now i have a 144hz monitor it should be 1ms but i have no idea how to calculate it but i intend to change it to a 240hz soon.
specifically for a 1920x1080 hp monitor version: ATM131 with NVIDIA G-SYNC
For the price that comes out, this one contains components such as:
motherboard I think I could change it saving money and not having so many differences
the 3600mhz ram (honestly I didn't quite understand how it goes and if actually 3600 compared to 3200 are so much essential for this build)
the ssd I would like to keep it at 1TB but I have not yet understood what the difference between one brand and another can be if not the price (I ask you which one can be the best)
the hdd I put 2TB but I think 1TB is enough
I have no idea what the exact choice could be for what I need and for the quality / price and which obviously is compatible with the case I have chosen.
as for the fans I added 2 extra not knowing if they are needed and where they can be placed

I am inexperienced and I hope you can clarify me and help me make this build valid without going too far in price

Case
CASE PER GAMING MID-TOWER NZXT H511 (BIANCO)
Processore (CPU)
CPU a otto Core AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (3,8 GHz-4,7 GHz/CACHE da 36 MB/AM4)
Scheda madre
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) – ARGB Ready!
Memoria (RAM)
DDR4 Corsair VENGEANCE 3600 MHz 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)
Scheda grafica
NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 da 10 GB - HDMI, DP, LHR (Solo in pre-ordinazione)
1o Unità di archiviazione
HDD SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3,5" 2 TB, 6 GB/s, 7200 GIRI/MIN., 256 MB CACHE
1o drive SSD M.2
SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 1 TB, NVMe PCIe (fino a 7000 MB/R, 5000 MB/W)
Alimentatore
CORSAIR 750 W RMx SERIES™ MODULARE 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA SILENZIOSO
Cavo di alimentazione
1 cavo di alimentazione europeo 1 metro (tipo kettle)
Raffreddamento processore
Dissipatore CPU Corsair H100i RGB PRO XT Hydro Series ad alte prestazioni
Pasta termica
PASTA TERMICA STANDARD PER UN RAFFREDDAMENTO SUFFICIENTE
Ventole case extra
2 ventole case nere 120 mm (configurate per l'estrazione dalla parte posteriore/superiore)
Scheda audio
AUDIO ALTA DEFINIZIONE INTEGRATO A 6 CANALI (5.1) (DI SERIE)
Scheda di rete
PORTA LAN GIGABIT 10/100/1000
Opzioni USB/Thunderbolt
MIN. 2 PORTE USB 3.0 & 2 PORTE USB 2.0 @ PANNELLO SUL RETRO + MIN. 2 PORTE FRONTALI
Sistema operativo
NESSUN SISTEMA OPERATIVO RICHIESTO
Lingua del sistema operativo
Italia/Italia – Lingua italiana
Supporto di ripristino Windows
NESSUN RIPRISTINO RICHIESTO
Software Office
Prova GRATUITA 30 giorni di Microsoft 365® (richiesto sistema operativo)
Antivirus
NESSUN SOFTWARE ANTIVIRUS
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (solo con Windows 10)
Garanzia
Garanzia Oro 3 anni (2 anni Ritiro e reso, 2 anni Ricambi, 3 anni Manodopera)
Consegna
3 GIORNI PER LA SPEDIZIONE IN ITALIA
Tempo di costruzione
Costruzione standard: soggetto a disponibilità in magazzino dei prodotti in pre-ordine


https://www.pcspecialist.it/configurazioni-salvate/amd-am4-gen3-pc/zp3wRhK2df/

 

[Bigfoot]

What is your budget? A 3080 will be wasted on a 1080p monitor, even if you get a 240Hz one. 1080p is really a dying resolution. You would be better off getting a 1440p 144Hz monitor and a 3060Ti or 3070 graphics card. Most people can’t see any difference once the refresh rate goes above about 120Hz. For the M.2 SSDs we would recommend a Gen 4 512GB drive (Samsung 980 PRO or Firecuda 530) for OS and programmes AND a slightly slower 1TB M.2 (e.g. Intel 670p). I would increase the PSU to 850W. I am not sure that the selected case is good for airflow, but that is not my area of expertise. Others will be able to advise.

 

[anatasw]

What is your budget? A 3080 will be wasted on a 1080p monitor, even if you get a 240Hz one. 1080p is really a dying resolution. You would be better off getting a 1440p 144Hz monitor and a 3060Ti or 3070 graphics card. Most people can’t see any difference once the refresh rate goes above about 120Hz. For the M.2 SSDs we would recommend a Gen 4 512GB drive (Samsung 980 PRO or Firecuda 530) for OS and programmes AND a slightly slower 1TB M.2 (e.g. Intel 670p). I would increase the PSU to 850W. I am not sure that the selected case is good for airflow, but that is not my area of expertise. Others will be able to advise.

I would not like to exceed 2.800/3.000 euros honestly, as regards the monitor I intend to play competitive games but I have not yet understood if 2k are considered 1440p and which would be better for competitive games 1080p or 1440p?
also for the choice of the video card which would be the most suitable (for competitive games)?
while for the ram they are good at 3200mhz or 3600mhz even if I think the price rises a bit?

 

[MrWilson]

I would not like to exceed 2.800/3.000 euros honestly, as regards the monitor I intend to play competitive games but I have not yet understood if 2k are considered 1440p and which would be better for competitive games 1080p or 1440p?
also for the choice of the video card which would be the most suitable (for competitive games)?
while for the ram they are good at 3200mhz or 3600mhz even if I think the price rises a bit?

As @Bigfoot 99% of the population can't discern above 120hz so a 1440p 144hz display (2k is 1440p) will be better than a 1080p 240hz display. The build below will be great for gaming at 120+ fps in modern competitive titles.
3200mhz is a good speed of RAM to go for. The 3600mhz will not give a performance boost in gaming.

This is well within your budget leaving plenty of room for a new monitor to go with it. You can use your current monitor as a second screen which is helpful when streaming or for general use.
I don't know what monitor prices are like in Italy so I'll list a few options we would recommend:
Asus VG27AQ
Gigabyte M27Q
Dell S2721DGF

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2700MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
3 DAY DELIVERY TO ITALY
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: €2.279,51 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/NPG3AgfFfr/

 

[anatasw]

so with that build I would not be able to get there and therefore not even exceed 240 fps? I'm talking about games like valorant, fortnite or apex legends

 

[MrWilson]

so with that build I would not be able to get there and therefore not even exceed 240 fps? I'm talking about games like valorant, fortnite or apex legends

Again, you almost certainly won’t be able to discern above 120 fps when you’re in game so there is no point chasing 240hz. A lot of the craze around 240hz is from internet influencers who are sponsored to promote certain monitors.
The players who play competitively in professional tournaments play at 1080p with graphics settings cranked down for maximum frames because they can actually benefit from the extra couple of milliseconds that that gives them. The vast majority of humans cannot, and those extra frames won’t make you better at the game. On the other hand, a step up from 1080p to 1440p is a substantial step up and will improve your gaming experience.

 

[SpyderTracks]

If you don't care how a game looks, and are happy with 20 year old graphics, then you'd get a 1080p 240Hz monitor, reduce all settings to low and reduce resolution to 720p. That's what competitive means. All 240Hz does is give you an extra 2.5ms reaction time which most people can't see let alone react to, it does absolutely nothing for visual experience. Visually it's the poorest gaming experience there is.

If you care at all how a game looks, then you're not a competitive gamer. In that case, 1440p 144Hz will provide a faaar better gaming experience.

 

[anatasw]

Guys as for mostly valorant and fortnite with the graphics to a minimum the game details remain "clean" with the addition of more frames.
In the sense that objects, weapons and everything related to the game there is not so much difference if not more shadows and "superfluous" details.
It will be that unfortunately I have always been used to putting everything to a minimum to get the necessary fps to make everything playable but I cannot understand in the games "selected" by me how it can be better and useful to have a "higher" quality of details when I from this I could get an advantage that is little or less is still an advantage that at least for me can be the difference that makes my "experience" of the game better.
I have been playing with 60hz and when I made the switch to 144hz I noticed and found that it is completely another level,another gaming experience that anyone would want to try, so I'm sure that if one day I wanted to reach for a higher level, 240hz (with the possibility of actually exploiting them all) is another world of its own.
However I would like to understand if with this build at "ultra" quality / details I can achieve good FPS in the game above or around 140+ fps and if I wanted to put the "competitive" or "low" quality to be able to reach 240+ fps.
My English is not one of the best and I hope I have expressed myself well and I wanted to thank you for your patience and the help you are giving me.

 

[Bigfoot]

Guys as for mostly valorant and fortnite with the graphics to a minimum the game details remain "clean" with the addition of more frames.
In the sense that objects, weapons and everything related to the game there is not so much difference if not more shadows and "superfluous" details.
It will be that unfortunately I have always been used to putting everything to a minimum to get the necessary fps to make everything playable but I cannot understand in the games "selected" by me how it can be better and useful to have a "higher" quality of details when I from this I could get an advantage that is little or less is still an advantage that at least for me can be the difference that makes my "experience" of the game better.
I have been playing with 60hz and when I made the switch to 144hz I noticed and found that it is completely another level,another gaming experience that anyone would want to try, so I'm sure that if one day I wanted to reach for a higher level, 240hz (with the possibility of actually exploiting them all) is another world of its own.
However I would like to understand if with this build at "ultra" quality / details I can achieve good FPS in the game above or around 140+ fps and if I wanted to put the "competitive" or "low" quality to be able to reach 240+ fps.
My English is not one of the best and I hope I have expressed myself well and I wanted to thank you for your patience and the help you are giving me.

You would notice a big difference moving from 60Hz to 144Hz. However, the vast majority of the population cannot distinguish any difference much above 120Hz. Therefore, in all likelihood moving to 240Hz will make no difference, except to your bank account.

 

[MrWilson]

Guys as for mostly valorant and fortnite with the graphics to a minimum the game details remain "clean" with the addition of more frames.
In the sense that objects, weapons and everything related to the game there is not so much difference if not more shadows and "superfluous" details.
It will be that unfortunately I have always been used to putting everything to a minimum to get the necessary fps to make everything playable but I cannot understand in the games "selected" by me how it can be better and useful to have a "higher" quality of details when I from this I could get an advantage that is little or less is still an advantage that at least for me can be the difference that makes my "experience" of the game better.
I have been playing with 60hz and when I made the switch to 144hz I noticed and found that it is completely another level,another gaming experience that anyone would want to try, so I'm sure that if one day I wanted to reach for a higher level, 240hz (with the possibility of actually exploiting them all) is another world of its own.
However I would like to understand if with this build at "ultra" quality / details I can achieve good FPS in the game above or around 140+ fps and if I wanted to put the "competitive" or "low" quality to be able to reach 240+ fps.
My English is not one of the best and I hope I have expressed myself well and I wanted to thank you for your patience and the help you are giving me.

There is a noticeable difference between 60 and 144hz. Above that there is a very high probability that you will not notice a difference but will simply be paying more.
If you reduce graphics settings in Fortnite and Valorant you will be hitting 140+ fps comfortably with this build. The monitors I've listed above can be overclocked to 165hz or 170hz. There is almost no chance you will be able to perceive more frames than that while you are playing.

 

[anatasw]

just to understand how much impact a motherboard has in general one motherboard compared to another and why? I also ask for the same thing for the processor cooling

 

[JUNI0R]

just to understand how much impact a motherboard has in general one motherboard compared to another and why? I also ask for the same thing for the processor cooling

A motherboard won't have any direct impact on gaming performance but a good motherboard can help. It's important to spec a motherboard that has VRM's (Voltage Regulator modules, basically the things that control where the power goes) that are capable of handling your CPU- if you have an especially high end CPU in a low end motherboard, the VRM's could get overworked causing the CPU to throttle. Overheating and overworked VRM's can also shorten the life of the PC. There's also other things to consider like the features you want (WiFi, USB ports, enough SATA connections, etc). I see @MrWilson has paired the STRIX B550 with the 5800X, this is a solid pairing and that CPU will be comfortable in that motherboard.

For CPU cooling, you want a cooler that can keep your CPU cool under idle conditions (20-35 degrees) then allow it to heat up once the CPU is under load (70-90 degrees). Having a cooler that is inadequate could cause it to get too hot, overheat and throttle, which would cause lag in games. But you also don't want a cooler that's too good, a 360mm AIO on an i3 for example (not to mention that's a funny spend of money), as you want the CPU to experience a range of temperatures, instead of just staying cold, like owning a Ferrari and just driving it at 30mph. Generally the cooler the CPU is, the faster it'll run, which is why you don't want it to throttle, (which is when it lowers the clock speed (so therefore performance) to cool itself down to avoid just needing to shut off). For your PC, the 5800X is quite a warm running CPU, but Wilson has specced a Corsair H150i which is a real top end cooler which will manage temperatures perfectly.

 

[anatasw]

the case I wanted is no longer available and by informing me they told me that it should arrive at the end of the month if not more I tried to change the case and I put the 3060 TI instead of the 3070 because looking at the various bechmarks the difference is little if not 15 -20 fps maximum how is the difference in price 200 euros more I don't think it's worth it, 200 euros are worth 20 fps more? I would like you to explain this to me ..
I accept any advice and any changes even if staying around this price would be great, it is a PC that I would not want to touch for at least 3-4 years except in case of need or for personal whim.

Case
CASE PER GAMING COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB
Processore (CPU)
CPU a otto Core AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (3,8 GHz-4,7 GHz/CACHE da 36 MB/AM4)
Scheda madre
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING WIFI (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - Pronta per RGB!
Memoria (RAM)
DDR4 Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO 3600 MHz 32 GB (2 x 16 GB)
Scheda grafica
NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti da 8 GB - HDMI, DP, LHR
1o Unità di archiviazione
HDD SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" 1 TB, 6 GB/s, 7200 GIRI/MIN, CACHE 64 MB
1o drive SSD M.2
SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 500 GB, NVMe PCIe (fino a 6900 MB/R, 5000 MB/W)
1o drive SSD M.2
SSD M.2 NVMe PCIe da 1 TB INTEL® 670p (fino a 3500 MB/s/R | 2500 MB/sW)
Alimentatore
CORSAIR 850 W RMx SERIES™ MODULARE 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA SILENZIOSO
Cavo di alimentazione
1 cavo di alimentazione europeo 1 metro (tipo kettle)
Raffreddamento processore
Dissipatore CPU Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series ad alte prestazioni
Pasta termica
PASTA TERMICA STANDARD PER UN RAFFREDDAMENTO SUFFICIENTE
Scheda audio
AUDIO ALTA DEFINIZIONE INTEGRATO A 6 CANALI (5.1) (DI SERIE)
Scheda di rete
PORTA LAN GIGABIT 10/100/1000
Opzioni USB/Thunderbolt
MIN. 2 PORTE USB 3.0 & 2 PORTE USB 2.0 @ PANNELLO SUL RETRO + MIN. 2 PORTE FRONTALI
Sistema operativo
NESSUN SISTEMA OPERATIVO RICHIESTO
Lingua del sistema operativo
Italia/Italia – Lingua italiana
Supporto di ripristino Windows
NESSUN RIPRISTINO RICHIESTO
Software Office
Prova GRATUITA 30 giorni di Microsoft 365® (richiesto sistema operativo)
Antivirus
NESSUN SOFTWARE ANTIVIRUS
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (solo con Windows 10)
Garanzia
Garanzia Oro 3 anni (2 anni Ritiro e reso, 2 anni Ricambi, 3 anni Manodopera)
Consegna
3 GIORNI PER LA SPEDIZIONE IN ITALIA
Tempo di costruzione
Costruzione standard – da 10 a 12 giorni lavorativi
Prezzo: €0,00 IVA e consegna incluse

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[anatasw]

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[sck451]

Looks pretty awesome to me. The only downside I can see is that the lighting on the case fans won't be easy to sync up with the lighting on the cooler fans. It's not impossible, but it is trickier. But apart from that, it looks really good to me.

I'm sorry to make a last-minute suggestion, though, but you can go for Intel's 12th generation 12700KF instead of the 5800X, which actually ends up giving better performance at a slightly lower price. Right now, it's the way I'd go. This build is the same (I think!) in every other way.

Case
CASE PER GAMING COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB
Processore (CPU)
Processore Intel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12 Core (3,6 GHz) 25 MB cache
Scheda madre
ASUS® TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB-ready
Memoria (RAM)
DDR4 Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO 3600 MHz 32 GB (2 x 16 GB)
Scheda grafica
NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti da 8 GB - HDMI, DP, LHR
1o Unità di archiviazione
HDD SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" 1 TB, 6 GB/s, 7200 GIRI/MIN, CACHE 64 MB
1o drive SSD M.2
SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 500 GB, NVMe PCIe (fino a 6900 MB/R, 5000 MB/W)
1o drive SSD M.2
SSD M.2 NVMe PCIe da 1 TB INTEL® 670p (fino a 3500 MB/s/R | 2500 MB/sW)
Alimentatore
CORSAIR 850 W RMx SERIES™ MODULARE 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA SILENZIOSO
Cavo di alimentazione
1 cavo di alimentazione europeo 1 metro (tipo kettle)
Raffreddamento processore
Dissipatore CPU Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series ad alte prestazioni
Pasta termica
PASTA TERMICA STANDARD PER UN RAFFREDDAMENTO SUFFICIENTE
Scheda audio
AUDIO ALTA DEFINIZIONE INTEGRATO A 6 CANALI (5.1) (DI SERIE)
Scheda di rete
PORTA LAN GIGABIT 10/100/1000
Opzioni USB/Thunderbolt
MIN. 2 PORTE USB 3.0 & 2 PORTE USB 2.0 @ PANNELLO SUL RETRO + MIN. 2 PORTE FRONTALI
Sistema operativo
NESSUN SISTEMA OPERATIVO RICHIESTO
Lingua del sistema operativo
Italia/Italia – Lingua italiana
Supporto di ripristino Windows
NESSUN RIPRISTINO RICHIESTO
Software Office
Prova GRATUITA 30 giorni di Microsoft 365® (richiesto sistema operativo)
Antivirus
NESSUN SOFTWARE ANTIVIRUS
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (solo con Windows 10)
Garanzia
Garanzia Oro 3 anni (2 anni Ritiro e reso, 2 anni Ricambi, 3 anni Manodopera)
Consegna
3 GIORNI PER LA SPEDIZIONE IN ITALIA
Tempo di costruzione
Costruzione standard: soggetto a disponibilità in magazzino dei prodotti in pre-ordine
Prezzo: €2.439,00 IVA e consegna incluse
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