Hello, new here, how should I configure my laptop?

pen500

Member
Hi, I'm not particularly computer savvy although I have been using them pretty much daily since the Dark Ages (1983!)

The bulk of my work is spent with spreadsheets; massive multi-page Excel workbooks with millions of cells, vast amounts of database functions.... I've usually got multi company Sage v24 open too, plus Outlook, Chrome, Teams, Word plus ITSupport247 when WFH.

I have an i7 desktop at work, 8GB RAM, frankly a bit meh. My home laptop is i5 6200U, 8 GB RAM, 1 TB Plus 8 GB SSD, and performs rather better, but it's 5 years old and beginning to wear out mechanically; keys are sticking or simply not working. It's a Acer 15.6 and was a very good spec when I got it - my son has exactly the same machine which he quite happily uses for gaming (I'm too old; Sudokus are more my thing.)

So I thing it's time to replace and I want to get one which will see me through the next 5 years without irritating me. I'd quite like a bigger screen so I'm particularly interested in the 17.3 laptops. I know I want masses of RAM so I'm quite happy to fork out for the highest possible amount I can stuff in. I think I need about 2TB of storage. I do want Bluetooth capability but I prefer wired accessories so a few USB ports are necessary. And I'd like an ethernet port for when it goes into the office. But after that I'm stuck. Should I stick with Intel or wait for an AMD version to appear? What are these M.2 SSD drives? What's Optane memory and do I need it? Help!!!
 

Bhuna50

Author Level
Couple of quick questions.

What is your maximum budget?

Is battery life important or will you be plugging it most of the time. (The 17” laptops are mostly gaming ones so battery life is around five hours absolute maximum)

When you access these large spreadsheets is this through a Citrix gateway (and therefore mainly using the works servers for a virtual desktop) or will it be hosted on your laptop?

Do you have a windows licence that can be used on this machine (from a machine that will no longer be used) or will you want Home / Pro?

Cheers


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pen500

Member
Max budget around £2,500 but would be jolly pleased to spend less! I will need Windows Pro. I think it is a Citrix gateway - basically my laptop mirrors what's happening on my desktop. I am very happy to kick our IT department hard and get them to install some extra RAM in my desktop.
 

Bhuna50

Author Level
Unfortunately I’m only on my phone for most of today so hopefully someone else will post a spec for you to consider. If not when I’m home later this afternoon / evening I’ll take a look for you.


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SpyderTracks

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If you're running a citrix environment or more likely VDI? Then the laptop doesn't need any power at all as all the processing is done on the host environment.

What do you actually run locally on the laptop that requires power? Do you install any software specifically on it or is it all run over the remote connection to the office?
 

pen500

Member
Mostly I run the office stuff. However I do have my own side-business providing this kind of stuff to others - and for that I need horse power.
 

pen500

Member
This is the preliminary spec:

Chassis & Display
Initia Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 60Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor i7-10510U (1.8GHz, 4.9GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
INTEL® HD GRAPHICS (CPU Dependant) - 1.7GB Max DDR4 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
Ultra Slim 8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 45W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Battery
Initia Series Detachable 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 GEN 2 PORT (Type C) + 1 x USB 3.2 GEN 1 PORT + 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS
Keyboard Language
ULTRANOTE SERIES MULTI COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
Microsoft® Office Professional 2019 (1 Digital License)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Headsets
CoolerMaster CH321 Gaming Headset
Speakers
LOGITECH Z200 2.0 SPEAKERS - 10W
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo NJ70CU (UMA, i7-10510U, 60Hz FHD N7, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
 

Bhuna50

Author Level
This is the preliminary spec:

Chassis & Display
Initia Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 60Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor i7-10510U (1.8GHz, 4.9GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
INTEL® HD GRAPHICS (CPU Dependant) - 1.7GB Max DDR4 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
Ultra Slim 8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 45W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Battery
Initia Series Detachable 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 GEN 2 PORT (Type C) + 1 x USB 3.2 GEN 1 PORT + 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS
Keyboard Language
ULTRANOTE SERIES MULTI COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
Microsoft® Office Professional 2019 (1 Digital License)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Headsets
CoolerMaster CH321 Gaming Headset
Speakers
LOGITECH Z200 2.0 SPEAKERS - 10W
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo NJ70CU (UMA, i7-10510U, 60Hz FHD N7, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
With those spreadsheets you mention and if you are running them directly on your laptop then I would think a 6-core or 8-core processor would be better. Unfortunately, that limits the 17" laptops somewhat to pay out for things you dont need (3000 series GPU), as sadly there is a shortage on choice regarding the laptops due to stock issues everywhere.

I just realised you have added things like Office Pro, headset and speakers - apologies but missed those on two suggestions below:

15" option:

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Chassis & Display
UltraNote Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 60Hz 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen™ 7 8-Core Processor 4700U (2.0GHz, 4.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
AMD Radeon™ Graphics (CPU Dependant)
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 65W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Battery
UltraNote Series Integrated 36WH Lithium Ion Battery
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 GEN 2 PORT (Type C) + 1 x USB 3.2 GEN 1 PORT + 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS
Keyboard Language
MULTI COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo NL51RU FHD (R7-4700U, FHD, 60Hz N4, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,114.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/initia-amd-15/xtAM!S92t0/

@FeVieira or others may be able to suggest something better for you.
 

FerrariVie

Super Star
@FeVieira or others may be able to suggest something better for you.
Well, since I'm a performance-focused user, I'm going to try and get the best performance and still stick close to the £1000 price-point. My option would be the Cosmos (assuming 15" would be ok). The reasoning behind this would be to have a better CPU (high-performance H type with HT, instead of high-efficiency U-series CPUs like the Ryzen 4700U that doesn't have SMT or the 10510U that has HT but is still a 4-core chip), a dedicated GPU (since you mentioned kids and they might want to play on your new laptop :D). However, the drawbacks of more performance within the same price would be a bit less battery life, a bit more fan noise and less storage. But that's the best performance that you can get at this price (imo). If you can stretch the budget a bit, then you could add more storage (I would suggest another 1TB+ SATA drive), and maybe also replace the PCS M.2 by a Samsung one that's a lot faster.

The cosmos also has an option of an 8-core CPU with a better GPU, but not sure that's going to be a great deal for your type of usage. But again, if you're willing to spend a bit more, it will indeed be even more future proof.

Chassis & Display
Cosmos Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 10750H (2.6GHz, 5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® MX350 - 2.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 120W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Battery
Cosmos Series Integrated 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 1 x USB 3.2 PORT + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
15" COSMOS SERIES UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Chassis
Clevo NP50D5 (2GB MX-350, i7-10750H, 144Hz N4, Blank KB)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £1,054.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/cosmosIX-15/DsRUvmy62n/
 
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