GTX 480 with 13900K

[Absynthe]

Hi

Last time i built an Pc was an i7 860 with an GTX 480, then some days went by(still using it, but its time now. Ram is capped at 8GB sadly)...

So the idea is to get a solid upgradeable Base, where i simply put more stuff in instead of exchanging them.
I dont need any RGB or else lighting in my pc, im not streaming nor have any urge to show it off in any kind.
I just want an pc that i can play any game for the next 10 years.
I will thankfully take any advice on this!

Gehäuse
HYTE Y60 – PANORAMA MID-TOWER-GEHÄUSE
Prozessor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 24-Core-Prozessor i9-13900K (bis 5,8GHz) 36 MB Cache
Mainboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z790-F GAMING WIFI (DDR5, LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) – ARGB-fähig!
Arbeitsspeicher
16 GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz (1 x 16GB)
Grafikkarte
Will use my old GTX 480 for some time
1. M.2 SSD-Laufwerk
1 TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (bis zu 7450 MB/R, 6900 MB/W)
PSU
CORSAIR 1200 W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRALEISE
CPU-Cooler
Hochleistungs-Flüssigkühler der FrostFlow 360-Serie ARGB
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ARKTISCHE MX-4 EXTREM WÄRMELEITENDE VERBINDUNG
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ONBOARD 6 KANAL (5.1) HIGH DEF-AUDIO (STANDARDMÄSSIG)
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MIN. 2 x USB-3.0- und 2 x USB-2.0-ANSCHLÜSSE AUF DER RÜCKSEITE + MIN. 2 ANSCHLÜSSE VORNE
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Windows 11 Professional 64 Bit – inkl. Einzellizenz [MUP-00005]
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[Tron1982]

Hi, i'm not an expert in desktop, but it's not a really well balance config i'd say.
To any good help we need your budget, futur use case, if you have a monitor or if you need one.
And do you need a particular reason to go the intel way ? as, for now, amd is better.

I let you answer my questions before getting more into any kind of advices ^^


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[Scott]

The GTX480 is going to be the bottleneck here. There's not much point in having any sort of high end system with such a low end GPU. Are you looking to update? To be honest, I think the GTX480 is probably in line with iGPUs in some chips so could be removed altogether for £0.

 

[Absynthe]

Hey thanx for the replys

As i wrote:
"So the idea is to get a solid upgradeable Base, where i simply put more stuff in instead of exchanging them."

I have that GTX480 in my PC now, so it will help me on the initial cost of a new PC. If the iGPU in the new system is better im totally fine with using that.

The plan is to add a 4090 in like 4-6 months. Shortly after i want to put in 96GB Ram and if i need, an second ssd.

That should be pretty balanced then.

Intel is my choice because i had lots of problems with amd back in the day(overheating, poor performance)

My budget for now is around 2000€ which is maxed out with this setup.

I have a Samsung BX2450 and a BX2335 Monitors. Planning on getting an curved one in the near future. But for now they will do the job.

Ps. I maybe order 96GB Ram instead of the 16GB and up the budget by that amount.

P.p.s. I mainly play minecraft now and surely for the next couple of months maybe a little rust in between.(thats why im fine with iGPU or the 480 for now)

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hey thanx for the replys

As i wrote:
"So the idea is to get a solid upgradeable Base, where i simply put more stuff in instead of exchanging them."

I have that GTX480 in my PC now, so it will help me on the initial cost of a new PC. If the iGPU in the new system is better im totally fine with using that.

The plan is to add a 4090 in like 4-6 months. Shortly after i want to put in 96GB Ram and if i need, an second ssd.

That should be pretty balanced then.

Intel is my choice because i had lots of problems with amd back in the day(overheating, poor performance)

My budget for now is around 2000€ which is maxed out with this setup.

I have a Samsung BX2450 and a BX2335 Monitors. Planning on getting an curved one in the near future. But for now they will do the job.

Ps. I maybe order 96GB Ram instead of the 16GB and up the budget by that amount.

P.p.s. I mainly play minecraft now and surely for the next couple of months maybe a little rust in between.(thats why im fine with iGPU or the 480 for now)

???

Surely this is trolling?

 

[Absynthe]

Lol why would this be trolling? I was about to hit the buy button when i noticed the "diskuss that spec on the forums" button. So i went here to get sure that i can do it that way.

My old pc stopped working 3 days ago and i refuse to repair or upgrade it cause of its age.

 

[Scott]

It does seem like a very unorthodox approach to spending money. I was going to say strange approach to designing a system but that doesn't quite describe the situation here.

I'll attempt to help you understand where we will be coming from but all advice is going to be miles away from the direction you're heading in right now so there will be a fine line between helping you and just letting you get on with it.

Some brief points:

The GTX480 is so old and slow it's frightening. it was likely OK when you got it and held up well for years. To simply swap this out for a 4090 without changing the display is flat out ludicrous. The monitors you have suggested are 1080p and would be more in line with a low end card such as the 3060, 4060ti or AMD 6650XT. For the likes of Minecraft the iGPU or 480 would be fine, but anything past that you're wanting a dedicated card.

You've spec-ed up a high end rig. To drop a GTX480 into it is in the same levels of "out there" as the above plan. Similar to using an iGPU.

96GB of RAM? I hate these options of RAM but why would this be an aim? Specifically why would this be a choice for gaming? This along with all the above idiosyncrasies do indeed make it look like someone could have programmed an AI to post a random build and ask for advice. If you're making decisions of this magnitude through actual reasoning then the reasoning is beyond me in all honesty. More than happy to help calibrate but the level of certainty and confidence that you have with your decision making does have me at a bit of a loss as well.

It's akin to buying this years top performing car while planning to get a driving license in 2030. The only difference is that if you buy wisely with a car, the value can appreciate. The value of a PC absolutely tanks week on week, spending loads of money to not use any of it's value is just setting fire to 2k.

So... now to offer some levelled out sanity to the discussion.

If you have a budget, lets all it 2k, I would recommend getting a competent 1440p rig with a competent 1440p monitor. This will offer far better use of your money and give your eyes something magnificent to view/play on.

If we start again:

What's the maximum budget.
What do you want to do with the system, just gaming?
The monitors are really old, is there a separate budget for a monitor? What is it?

We need to know what you are absolutely sticking with (monitors, budget) and where things are being upgraded/changed and any timelines involved.

 

[Absynthe]

Ok than from scratch:

Im on a phone rn so this is realy difficult for me. So pls dont get mad if i mess something up.

Hi my name is Roland i am 40 yrs old.

In the past i built 386, 486, Pentium 1, 2, 3, 4 systems wit gpus from early Ati to Sli Vodoos to some geforce cards and at last my i7 860 13 yrs ago.

My pc broke and i need an new one asap.
My budget now is around 2k.
Monitor is planned on an different budget, same for GPU and RAM.

What my old pc was capable of:
Play games while watching movies/series/else.
Played COD and WoW on Tvs
Konvert/edit videos like my sons mariage.
Created the plans for my house. Cant remember the programs(not cad). Streamed Videocontent to 2 Tvs in the house or musik to the stereo.

Thats what i need it to be capable of in the next ~10years (playing and the house multimedia simultanious)

Gpu will be bought as soon as i can afford. Same for Monitors and ram.

I def. want an 13900K, 4090, Ram maxed on the mainboard( its 96GB because its the half that board can do so i simple put 2 more sticks in and im done)(i was called insane once for putting 8GB in an pc, and now that limitation is all that keeps me from using it for some couple more years)
For the psu i would like to have abt 50% "wiggleroom" for future things.

I want intel because i hate vauxhals(no offens)hope u get it

I have no preferences on mainboard ram cooling what so ever except for it needs to be able to handle decent upgrades. Like:
192GB Ram or more.
Storage(ok thats the least issue)
For the psu reserves to handle a capture card and better cooling maybe an soundcard.


The plan is to swap out every old component within the next 6 months.

To keep it simple lets just dont discuss Monitors now. Thats an tomorrow problem =)

 

[SpyderTracks]

I don't know where to begin so I won't bother.

Im afraid this is a case of someone with a tiny understanding who is decade's out of date. Or just a troll

But you're not asking for advice, you're asking for approval.

Basically 90% of what you're speccing makes absolutely no sense.

 

[davhun]

Ok than from scratch:

Im on a phone rn so this is realy difficult for me. So pls dont get mad if i mess something up.

Hi my name is Roland i am 40 yrs old.

In the past i built 386, 486, Pentium 1, 2, 3, 4 systems wit gpus from early Ati to Sli Vodoos to some geforce cards and at last my i7 860 13 yrs ago.

My pc broke and i need an new one asap.
My budget now is around 2k.
Monitor is planned on an different budget, same for GPU and RAM.

What my old pc was capable of:
Play games while watching movies/series/else.
Played COD and WoW on Tvs
Konvert/edit videos like my sons mariage.
Created the plans for my house. Cant remember the programs(not cad). Streamed Videocontent to 2 Tvs in the house or musik to the stereo.

Thats what i need it to be capable of in the next ~10years (playing and the house multimedia simultanious)

Gpu will be bought as soon as i can afford. Same for Monitors and ram.

I def. want an 13900K, 4090, Ram maxed on the mainboard( its 96GB because its the half that board can do so i simple put 2 more sticks in and im done)(i was called insane once for putting 8GB in an pc, and now that limitation is all that keeps me from using it for some couple more years)
For the psu i would like to have abt 50% "wiggleroom" for future things.

I want intel because i hate vauxhals(no offens)hope u get it

I have no preferences on mainboard ram cooling what so ever except for it needs to be able to handle decent upgrades. Like:
192GB Ram or more.
Storage(ok thats the least issue)
For the psu reserves to handle a capture card and better cooling maybe an soundcard.


The plan is to swap out every old component within the next 6 months.

To keep it simple lets just dont discuss Monitors now. Thats an tomorrow problem =)

Forget about upgrading a 13 year old computer. This is where you configure a new computer to your requirements based on selectable components and PCS then build it for you. Be careful not to get carried away. For instance, a 4090 will cost nearly £1200 more than a 4060. Again 32GB ram is probably all you need. Get advice on which processor suits your needs best. Could it be reduced a bit?

 

[Absynthe]

Im aware that this pc will cost around 5k without monitors.
2k that specc
1.9k the 4090
that leaves me with abt 1.1k for aditional ram and storage.
There is no need to reduce Prozessor or GPU for Budget reasons.
The only 2 things i want for sure: the 13900K and an 4090. Oh and the case maybe.

I also know that 32GB is good rn but i want to be able to put in as much as possible in the future without having to exchange that 32gb for something bigger.

I dont care for brands of any of the other components as long as they are worth their money.

Over all im going with: Buy cheap, buy twice.

 

[davhun]

Im aware that this pc will cost around 5k without monitors.
2k that specc
1.9k the 4090
that leaves me with abt 1.1k for aditional ram and storage.
There is no need to reduce Prozessor or GPU for Budget reasons.
The only 2 things i want for sure: the 13900K and an 4090. Oh and the case maybe.

I also know that 32GB is good rn but i want to be able to put in as much as possible in the future without having to exchange that 32gb for something bigger.

I dont care for brands of any of the other components as long as they are worth their money.

Over all im going with: Buy cheap, buy twice.

You are not buying cheap. The 4090 is the most powerful (and probably expensive) video card there is. You do not need it.
Have a look at some of the readymade computers that are available for next day delivery for comparison. For example, the Thunderbolt 170 is about your price. I do not know too much about desktops (use a laptop) but would guess that the i7-13700K would be adequate and the ram is good at 5600Mhz. A lot of people are praising the 4060 or 4070 for games and editing work while the 4080 and 4090 are expensive for what they are. You might want to add a 500GB solidigm P44 drive for the OS.
Hope this gives some sort of guide.

 

[Scott]

I can't offer anything other than a spec. I have nothing else to add as my knowledge and common sense is completely at odds with your decision making process.

As always, it's your money and I wish you many happy years with the build. Without opting for a GPU or new monitors, the build is below. You are a 4090 and a 4k screen away from a gaming/multimedia monster for the next 5 years.

I need wine!

Case
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Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
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Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
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Processor Cooling
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Thermal Paste
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Sound Card
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Network Card
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MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
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[Absynthe]

I dont know if its the language barrier or the fact that NONE of u actually read what i wrote but i feel completly misunderstood...
Why would i buy 1300 to 1700€ systems when i told i want to spend 5k....

At first i wanted to know if that spec can work with my old card till i can afford the new one.
I got an answer (yes but the iGPU will do as good or even better)
The u guys asked a bunch of questions.
I answered them.
U guys got confused of what i wanted to to.
I started from scratch.
I told u what i wanna do with that PC.
I told ya what i def want in my system and why.
I told the budget i have right now.
I told what components i have to use from my old pc.
I told u the time it will take me to buy the rest of the components.

Yes i am decades out of date.
I guess thats why im asking u up to date guys!

What u (Spyder) could have done would be something like:
Better use xy mainboard cause it can yz better.
Or use xy cooler because it would fit better in the case.....what ever.
Instead of accusing me to be a troll.
When ur the one who is wasting my time...



Well thanks for your time, i guess ill spend my money elsewhere.
Pls close
Thank you

Ps thx for the tip on using an extra ssd for the os.

 

[Scott]

You had said 2k. You can spend whatever you wish but without purchasing the 4090 right now you're never going to break 2k within the realms of sense. You can spend 2k if you wish, but it's going to be adding spoilers to a Corsa (Hope you enjoy the Vauxhall reference).

Absolutely going to town would be 4k on a system, but that would be a gaming behemoth and need £1k spent on a monitor.

Without understanding what we are saying, it's a barrier that can't be overcome. Language isn't the issue IMO, your English is better than mine I think.

For instance....

AMD > Intel right now
4090 is a 4k 144hz ultra powerful GPU for Hogwarts Legacy with Ray Tracing, not for 1080p Solitaire
RAM is the amount of bedrooms in your house. You've only got a single bed, no point in buying a mansion.

It's this misunderstanding that we have been trying to correct. Happy to close the thread at your request should you wish though. It does seem futile.

 

[Absynthe]

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