Gaming Laptop

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dearon

Active member
Hi,

I'm currently trying to build a gaming laptop for under £900 so far I've come up with this:

Chassis & Display
Cosmos Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS 60Hz 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 8750H (2.2GHz, 4.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Hard Disk
1TB SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 32MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB ADATA SU800 M.2 2280 (560 MB/R, 520 MB/W)
£837.00 inc. VAT

Any advice will be welcome.

Thanks!
 
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Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
You should avoid the Cosmos as it only goes up to a GTX 1050. This is very entry level.

A GTX 1050 ti, which is still pretty mid-level, is at least a lot faster and therefore will last you longer until it's obsolete.

In fact if you could squeak it over £900 then you could just about squeeze in a GTX 1060:

Chassis & Display
Vyper Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 8300H (2.3GHz, 4.0GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 - 6.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
1TB SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 32MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 2 in 1 Memory Card Reader (SD, MMC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 150W AC Adaptor
Battery
Vyper Series 46WH Lithium Ion Battery
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-9560 M.2 (1.73Gbps, 802.11AC) +BT 5.0
USB Options
1 x USB 3.1 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.1 PORTS + 4 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT UK MECHANICAL KEYBOARD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Quantity
1

Price £917.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/vyper-15/qQtTbbAMvm/

No SSD, but you can add an SSD any time you like as a DIY upgrade. Whereas you're stuck with the GPU forever and the only way to upgrade is to buy a new computer.

It has an i5 instead of an i7, but most games are going to be more than satisfied with a 6 core i5, while a GTX 1060 offers around double the performance of a 1050.

To give you some idea of the performance difference:
MobileGTX1050tinew.png
 
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dearon

Active member
Hi,

Thanks I ended up going for this:
Chassis & Display
Vyper Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 8750H (2.2GHz, 4.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 2.5" SSHD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB ADATA SU800 M.2 2280 (560 MB/R, 520 MB/W)

I'll probably end up upgrading the graphics card in a year or so.
 
ubuysa

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
dearon said:
Hi,

Thanks I ended up going for this:
Chassis & Display
Vyper Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 8750H (2.2GHz, 4.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 2.5" SSHD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB ADATA SU800 M.2 2280 (560 MB/R, 520 MB/W)

I'll probably end up upgrading the graphics card in a year or so.
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I believe that the GPUs are soldered in to most PCS laptops and thus cannot be upgraded.
 
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SlimCini

KC and the Sunshine BANNED
dearon said:
Hi,

Thanks I ended up going for this:
Chassis & Display
Vyper Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 8750H (2.2GHz, 4.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 2.5" SSHD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB ADATA SU800 M.2 2280 (560 MB/R, 520 MB/W)

I'll probably end up upgrading the graphics card in a year or so.
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No-one upgrades laptop gpus really as its hard and VERY expensive so I wouldn't plan on that. I'd also swap the sshd for a regular 7200rpm HD
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
SlimCini said:
No-one upgrades laptop gpus really as its hard and VERY expensive so I wouldn't plan on that. I'd also swap the sshd for a regular 7200rpm HD
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Furthermore, that’s a very slow m2 drive, I’d swap it for a higher speed one. Price will be about the same.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
As above, the CPU is soldered on an cannot be upgraded. It's not MXM. And even if it were MXM (which it isn't) you can't guarantee upgrades to new gens are possible anyway.
 
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dearon

Active member
Oussebon said:
As above, the CPU is soldered on an cannot be upgraded. It's not MXM. And even if it were MXM (which it isn't) you can't guarantee upgrades to new gens are possible anyway.
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Ah well, I'm sure it'll be fine for my usage.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Neither. If you want to cheap out on the SSD, SX6000. If you want a faster one, WD Black / 970 Evo.

Note that the SSD makes 0 difference to framerate. You would be saving yourself money in the long run going with a better GPU that will last you a lot longer before you want to upgrade, and adding an SSD later on as a DIY upgrade.

The SSHD is not a good choice - people have complained about its performance on these forums, and there's not really much point to it anyway with an SSD as your primary drive.
 
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dearon

Active member
1st M.2 SSD Drive 256GB ADATA SU800 M.2 2280 (560 MB/R, 520 MB/W)
Change to: 250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 1500MB/W)
 
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dearon

Active member
Oussebon said:
Neither. If you want to cheap out on the SSD, SX6000. If you want a faster one, WD Black / 970 Evo.

Note that the SSD makes 0 difference to framerate. You would be saving yourself money in the long run going with a better GPU that will last you a lot longer before you want to upgrade, and adding an SSD later on as a DIY upgrade.

The SSHD is not a good choice - people have complained about its performance on these forums, and there's not really much point to it anyway with an SSD as your primary drive.
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The 1TB 7200RPM was out of stock so I had to go for the SSHD or get the 5400 RPM. I really cant afford a better GPU
 
ubuysa

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
dearon said:
The 1TB 7200RPM was out of stock so I had to go for the SSHD or get the 5400 RPM. I really cant afford a better GPU
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The issues with that Firecuda SSHD are I think when it's used as the only drive in a system. It's my opinion that the performance problems being seen are because the Windows files in the cache are displaced by user data files that are more frequently used, I think their cache algorithm needs work. With an SSD for WIndows and programs and just user data on the SSHD I don't think you'll see the same issues. Although an SSHD isn't really worthwhile as a pure data drive and when you have an SSD for WIndows, if that's the only hard drive available I suggest you opt for it rather than that tiny M.2 SSD.

For the above reasons I would avoid your option 2 above like the plague.

Regarding option 1, if you can afford a decent M.2 SSD then you'll leave the SATA slot free for a 7200rpm HDD to be easily installed at a later date.
 
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dearon

Active member
Okay thanks, I'm going to have to settle with the below as its all i can afford.

Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 8750H (2.2GHz, 4.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM) 8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1

1st Hard Disk 1TB SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 32MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
Change to: 1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 2.5" SSHD

1st M.2 SSD Drive 256GB ADATA SU800 M.2 2280 (560 MB/R, 520 MB/W)
Change to: 250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 1500MB/W)
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Mate...

The spec you are posting here:

Okay thanks, I'm going to have to settle with the below as its all i can afford.

Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 8750H (2.2GHz, 4.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM) 8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1

1st Hard Disk 1TB SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 32MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
Change to: 1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 2.5" SSHD

1st M.2 SSD Drive 256GB ADATA SU800 M.2 2280 (560 MB/R, 520 MB/W)
Change to: 250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 1500MB/W)
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comes to £917.

The spec I posted with a GTX 1060 here:
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/foru...-Gaming-Laptop&p=419195&viewfull=1#post419195
is £917

You therefore can afford a GTX 1060. Because it costs the same as what you just posted. Just buy the system without an SSD or an i7.

The GTX 1060 will be hugely more beneficial to gaming than an i7.
 
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dearon

Active member
Oussebon said:
Mate...

The spec you are posting here:

Okay thanks, I'm going to have to settle with the below as its all i can afford.

comes to £917.

The spec I posted with a GTX 1060 here:
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/foru...-Gaming-Laptop&p=419195&viewfull=1#post419195
is £917

You therefore can afford a GTX 1060. Because it costs the same as what you just posted. Just buy the system without an SSD or an i7.

The GTX 1060 will be hugely more beneficial to gaming than an i7.
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The 1TB SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 32MB CACHE (7,200rpm) is not in stock and wasn't advised when it will be available
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
There is always the 5400rpm HDD. Or you could phone PCS to ask for an update on the other HDD.
 
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dearon

Active member
Okay so I've spoken to a rep and the 7200 HDD is due to arrive this week

So, i'm going for what you said and I actually save some money i believe.

CPU:
Intel® Core™ i5-8300H 2.3GHz, 4.0GHz Turbo
RAM
8GB CORSAIR 2133MHZ
GPU:
6GB GeForce GTX 1060
HDD:
1TB SATA HDD (7,200)
 
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