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MasterMirror

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Hi folks

Going to order my first gaming PC soon and would appreciate it if someone would take a look at the specs before I make the purchase and tell me if its suitable for running new games while getting decent fps or if i should select different parts.

thanks



Case
PCS P209 RGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 80 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
 
VenatoS

VenatoS

Well-known member
3200mhz ram Is a must.
Better PSU from the RMx series also a must.

What's the budget & monitor you will game on.
Could switch to an AMD system to save some money & get a 2080 instead.
 
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MasterMirror

Member
VenatoS said:
3200mhz ram Is a must.
Better PSU from the RMx series also a must.

What's the budget & monitor you will game on.
Could switch to an AMD system to save some money & get a 2080 instead.
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my budget is 1600
I will connect it to a tv via the hdmi port and most likely get a monitor in the future.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
What resolution is your TV (1080p or 4k?) and what resolution do you intend to play games at?

When do you intend to buy a new monitor, and what will your budget be?

This matters because there's no point buying a GPU overpowered for 1080p gaming that will have been made obsolete by newer, faster, and cheaper releases by the time you actually use what it has to offer.
 
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MasterMirror

Member
Oussebon said:
What resolution is your TV (1080p or 4k?) and what resolution do you intend to play games at?

When do you intend to buy a new monitor, and what will your budget be?

This matters because there's no point buying a GPU overpowered for 1080p gaming that will have been made obsolete by newer, faster, and cheaper releases by the time you actually use what it has to offer.
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as far as im aware its 1080p
should get a new monitor later this year, september at the latest in 4k hopefully
 
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MasterMirror

Member
VenatoS said:
3200mhz ram Is a must.
Better PSU from the RMx series also a must.

What's the budget & monitor you will game on.
Could switch to an AMD system to save some money & get a 2080 instead.
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what psu wattage should I go for?
also are there any amd cpus that you would recommend?
 
M

MasterMirror

Member
Oussebon said:
What resolution is your TV (1080p or 4k?) and what resolution do you intend to play games at?

When do you intend to buy a new monitor, and what will your budget be?

This matters because there's no point buying a GPU overpowered for 1080p gaming that will have been made obsolete by newer, faster, and cheaper releases by the time you actually use what it has to offer.
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id play at 1080p
id just buy the most reasonably priced 4k monitor do you have any recommendations?
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
For gaming, neither the 3900x or the 3800x! :) 3600 or maybe the 3700x.

MasterMirror said:
id just buy the most reasonably priced 4k monitor do you have any recommendations?
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Your spec is a little all over the place for what you are going to use it for.

You are buying a graphics card that is excellent for 1440p high refresh rate gaming. You only have a 1080p 60hz monitor (the TV). You are going to buy a 4k monitor in 9 months. You will buy a cheap 4k monitor.

The 2070 Super is not ideally suited to 4k gaming. It's just not quite powerful enough if you want to play demanding modern games at very high settings with stable framerates. And if you're not playing 4k very high settings, to have the game look good, why even buy a 4k monitor when you could just play at a lower resolution.

Also, by the time you buy your 4k monitor, new graphics cards will have been released, offering more performance for a lower price. So your 2070 Super will have been a waste of money.

And lastly if you buy a 4k monitor that is as cheap as possible, why did you buy a 4k monitor? You want the gameplay to look great and be as fluid as possible, neither of which you're really getting on a £200 4k screen for various reasons.

I think there are 3 good options for you here:

1) buy nothing until September

2) buy a powerful PC and a 1440p 144hz gaming monitor now - you can easily buy that for £1600.

3) buy a PC for 1080p gaming, that you can upgrade to 4k in 9-12 months when you buy a 4k monitor. And get a decent 4k monitor when you do buy it.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
Let's start with option 2 - buying a good PC and a good monitor now:

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £1,230.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/5b6Cr8amYc/

Leaving you around £400 for a monitor that is 1440p, 144hz, and has adaptive sync like Freesync.

This is the sweet spot for gaming to be honest, since 4k is extremely demanding, making it very expensive and also run with lower framerates. While 1440p is a great upgrade over 1080p, is much easier to achieve good framerates at, and is just plain more affordable for today's GPUs, future GPU upgrades, and the monitors.

Have a look at some 1440p 144hz options here. Loads for £400, and less:

Gaming Monitors Guide

The monitor is probably the most important component in any gaming build – it defines how you experience games and the hardware the PC should have. Overlooking the monitor can be the single biggest bottleneck to your gaming experience. With recent monitor and graphics card launches, and wider...
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

Multiverse Poster
For option 3)

Same spec but with a 1660 Super.

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
etc..
Price: £954.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/BnCgcZJzdp/

And be ready to have ~£400 for the 4k monitor and £600-1000 for the 4k gaming GPU when you're ready to go for 4k :)
 
M

MasterMirror

Member
Oussebon said:
For gaming, neither the 3900x or the 3800x! :) 3600 or maybe the 3700x.



Your spec is a little all over the place for what you are going to use it for.

You are buying a graphics card that is excellent for 1440p high refresh rate gaming. You only have a 1080p 60hz monitor (the TV). You are going to buy a 4k monitor in 9 months. You will buy a cheap 4k monitor.

The 2070 Super is not ideally suited to 4k gaming. It's just not quite powerful enough if you want to play demanding modern games at very high settings with stable framerates. And if you're not playing 4k very high settings, to have the game look good, why even buy a 4k monitor when you could just play at a lower resolution.

Also, by the time you buy your 4k monitor, new graphics cards will have been released, offering more performance for a lower price. So your 2070 Super will have been a waste of money.

And lastly if you buy a 4k monitor that is as cheap as possible, why did you buy a 4k monitor? You want the gameplay to look great and be as fluid as possible, neither of which you're really getting on a £200 4k screen for various reasons.

I think there are 3 good options for you here:

1) buy nothing until September

2) buy a powerful PC and a 1440p 144hz gaming monitor now - you can easily buy that for £1600.

3) buy a PC for 1080p gaming, that you can upgrade to 4k in 9-12 months when you buy a 4k monitor. And get a decent 4k monitor when you do buy it.
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First off thank you very much for your help its much appreciated:). I think im going to go for option 2 because 4k gaming seems to be out of my price range atm, il prob go for 4k with my next upgrade in a few years. cheers :)
 
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