Flight Sim 2020 Spec - Help please

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StuRan

Member
Im really taking a stab at this having read others specs and forum posts, apologies if these specs are repeated elsewhere in the forums but I'm going nuts with all the reading and contradictions I'm getting.......

This is to run FS2020 on a 1080 monitor with 60hz refresh rate with a view to moving to 1440 in the near future. I want to be able to run with the sliders in the sim on ultra as much as possible, big jets with glass instruments.

I know nothing about matching bits of hardware together or bottlenecks. Budget is about £2200.

Thanks in advance.

Case
NZXT H511 MID-TOWER GAMING CASE (BLACK)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6800 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
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ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
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Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
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3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
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Standard Build - Approximately 17 to 19 working days
Price: £0.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/YFs8eV4CDE/
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

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Slightly over the 2200 budget but has some improvements. GPU selection was based on 1440p benchmarks. At 1080p you are CPU bound, a 3070 will run ultra settings as well as a £1500 3090. At 1440p it is maybe 2 fps behind more expensive graphics cards and sits right at the diminishing returns spot. Upgrading to the next stage up you’re effectively paying £100+ to be able to have a couple of graphics settings from high to ultra. 3070 will also handle any other 1440p title you throw at it.
Other changes: The 465X is back in stock, this is the best case PCS have in stock under £100 atm. Bolstered your storage, got the best cooler you can fit in the case, upped PSU to 850W.


Case
CORSAIR iCUE 465X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 17 to 19 working days
Price: £2,248.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/fSPzCSF3HD/
 
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StuRan

Member
Thank you for that I really appreciate it. I have a couple of questions please?

In terms of the 3070, will that be ok for 1440 output with game sliders up in the future please? Also I should have stated, I intend on adding upgraded scenery such as airports and when they are released, aircraft such as PMDG offerings which are normally great for killing machines on past experience.

Im confused by the drives now, I was taking a guess with what I had specced and am asking as I have a lack of knowledge. I had put 2xM.2 SSD but these have been changed to:

1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)

That shows 2x "1st M.2 SSD" - im guessing the PCS one is a legacy from my spec in the copy and paste and shouldn't be there and has been replaced by the Samsung?

Is it better to have 1xHDD and 1xSSD than 2xSSD?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks in advance.

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Bigfoot

Grand Master
The first M.2 drive is for OS and programmes; the second for games and the HDD for long term storag. If you need to reformat the OS drive for any reason, you don’t need to reinstall your games.
 
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StuRan

Member
Got it, makes perfect sense! Thank you.

This machine is literally for FS and nothing else. Its replacing the 3 that are running my FS9 (yes FS9) setup at the moment!
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

Godlike
StuRan said:
Thank you for that I really appreciate it. I have a couple of questions please?

In terms of the 3070, will that be ok for 1440 output with game sliders up in the future please? Also I should have stated, I intend on adding upgraded scenery such as airports and when they are released, aircraft such as PMDG offerings which are normally great for killing machines on past experience.

Im confused by the drives now, I was taking a guess with what I had specced and am asking as I have a lack of knowledge. I had put 2xM.2 SSD but these have been changed to:

1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)

That shows 2x "1st M.2 SSD" - im guessing the PCS one is a legacy from my spec in the copy and paste and shouldn't be there and has been replaced by the Samsung?

Is it better to have 1xHDD and 1xSSD than 2xSSD?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks in advance.

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So at 1440p you’re still very much CPU bound; you’re literally talking 1 or 2 frames difference between a 3070, and a 3080 or a 6900xt which is gonna set you back an extra few hundred pounds for virtually no gains.
If you install a load of mods and textures and graphics it will cause decreased performance. MSFS is a demanding game and tbh PCs are still catching up to the demands the game needs to run well. But ultimately you could get a 5900x CPU with a 3080 and you might get an extra 3 or so frames, for an investment of £300+. The spec is at a point where any extra investment is going to eke out highly diminishing returns.
 
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StuRan

Member
Brilliant, again makes total sense and thank you for the clarity, all sorted now and will be clicking order shortly!

Thanks again.
 
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StuRan

Member
Just following this up and based on specs on a separate thread about FS and VR, the recommended spec to that posted is shown below. If that is a more suitable spec then I will amend my build.

This machine is for FS2020 only, no other use.

Many thanks.

S

Case
NZXT H511 MID-TOWER GAMING CASE (BLACK)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 2500MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 17 to 19 working days
Price: £2,182.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/bgrtnayRjB/
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

Godlike
StuRan said:
Just following this up and based on specs on a separate thread about FS and VR, the recommended spec to that posted is shown below. If that is a more suitable spec then I will amend my build.

This machine is for FS2020 only, no other use.

Many thanks.

S

Case
NZXT H511 MID-TOWER GAMING CASE (BLACK)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 2500MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 17 to 19 working days
Price: £2,182.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/bgrtnayRjB/
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That's a build by Scott, he knows what he's doing.
One thing though is that ASUS motherboards aren't very happy with 4x8GB 3600mhz RAM. PCS have added a 2x16GB 3600mhz option so would recommend going for that as we don't know when ASUS will patch this issue.
 
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