Est une bonne configuration ?

[mehrez]

Bonjour, je me suis fait cette configuration, je me demande si toutes les pièces vont bien ensemble, je veux un pc seulement pour le gaming et non pour du graphisme et du stream. Entre un processeur AMD Rysen 7 2700X et i7 9700K, lequel conviendrait mieux ? Notamment dans le temps, par exemple dans les 5 prochaines années.

Boîtier	BOÎTIER GAMING COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500P
Processeur (Unité centrale)	Processeur AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight Core (3,7 GHz-4,35 GHz/20 Mo CACHE/AM4)
Carte mère	ASUS® PRIME A320M-K: Micro-ATX, AM4, USB 3.0, 6 Go/s
Mémoire (RAM)	16 Go Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400 MHz (2 x 8 Go)
Carte graphique	8 Go NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 - HDMI, 3 DP - Compatible GeForce RTX VR !
1er Disque de stockage	SSD 480 Go ADATA SU650 2,5 POUCES, SATA 6 Go (520 Mo/R, 450 Mo/W)
2e Disque de stockage	DISQUE DUR SATA-III 3 To, 3,5 POUCES HDD, 6 Go/s, 7200 T/MIN, 64 Mo DE CACHE
Lecteur DVD/BLU-RAY	NON REQUIS(E)
Alimentation	ALIMENTATION CORSAIR 550 W VS SERIES™ VS-550

Merci de votre aide

 

[Oussebon]

Je vois que vous avez trouvé le forum français https://www.pcspecialist.fr/forums/threads/est-ce-une-bonne-configuration.63256/#post-439449

Vous parlez anglais aussi ?

Si non, il faudrait discuter cette configuration dans le forum français.

Je dirais seulement que ça serait mieux d’attendre les processeurs Zen 2 qui seront disponible le 7 juillet. Peut-être un 3600x ou 3700x + une carte-mère X570. Au lieu d’un 9700k ou 2700x. Et il faut savoir quel moniteur sera utilisé avec le PC, et combien vous pouvez dépenser en tout.

DSL, j'ai pas dû parler français depuis très longtemps (!)

 

[mehrez]

Ah d'accord merci, désolé je m'étais pas rendu compte, je peux me débrouiller en anglais aussi.
Je pensais aussi que je pourrai attendre le moi prochain.
Regarding the motherboard, if I keep the "ASUS® PRIME A320M-K", or if I change and I take the X470, what could change? I do not know very well. My budget is around 1800 €.
Thanks

 

[Oussebon]

Whatever you choose to buy, I would not recommend the A320 motherboards. They miss out a lot of features and will not support Zen 2 CPUs. B450 as a minimum. The X470 Ultra Gaming is also a good choice as it has a lot of features and is not much more expensive than the B450.

I would not buy an R7 2700x for gaming. The R7 2700x does not perform very much better than the R5 2600x, but is much more expensive. The R5 2600x is a much better buy - similar performance, but much cheaper.

Depending on the games you play, and the resolution / refresh rate of your monitor, an i7 9700k may not actually give you much more performance than an R5 2600x either. And in any case, the Zen 2 CPUs may equal or beat the 9700k.

The RTX 2070 is not a very good buy in my opinion. It only has 10-15% more performance than an RTX 2060, but costs ~50% more. That's a lot of extra money for not really much more performance.

What monitor are you gaming on? If it is 1080p 60hz, an RTX 2060 or 2070 are too much, anyway.

So I think the best option is to wait for Zen 2 CPUs and see what they have to offer. Or, if you must buy now, R5 2600x + X470 ultra gaming motherboard. The right graphics card depends on your monitor.

 

[mehrez]

Thank you very much that helps me a lot.
Regarding my screen, it's a 4k samsung, but I will not play more than 1080p. What I want is that it stays just as good after 5 years.
But on this I will surely wait for Zen 2. Regarding their price does it change much compared to the 2700X?
And again a very important thing, for the cooling I took the Cosair H115i pro, is it the good cooler for the CPU?

 

[Oussebon]

I think it's not worth trying to buy a GPU that will still give AAA performance in 5 years time. 1) it probably won't, 2) we don't know the hardware requirements of future games, and 3) newer GPUs with newer technologies are being released all the time.

It would make more sense to buy a GPU like the GTX 1660 ti or the RTX 2060, and then upgrade the GPU in ~3 years maybe. Because by then there will be newer, more powerful, graphics cards with new technologies that will be available for a lower price than the same performance today.

But on this I will surely wait for Zen 2. Regarding their price does it change much compared to the 2700X?

These are the official prices as listed by AMD:

AMD Ryzen 3000 Announced: Five CPUs, 12 Cores for $499, Up to 4.6 GHz, PCIe 4.0, Coming 7/7

www.anandtech.com

Obviously that is just the recommended retail pricing. Actual pricing may vary. But it gives us an idea.
The 9700k had a recommended price of ~$375-385, and the 9900k around $500.
The 3700x has a recommended price of $329, so it is meant to be cheaper than a 9700k, and the same price as a 2700x (which also had a recommended price of $329 when it was launched). The 3800x is meant to be the same sort of price as a 9700k.

So Zen 2 is meant to be at the same price level as the 2000 series CPUs. Of course, it will probably be a little more expensive than the price of a 2000 series CPUs today because the 2000 series CPUs are being sold off ahead of Zen 2.

And again a very important thing, for the cooling I took the Cosair H115i pro, is it the good cooler for the CPU?

We should wait to see what the new CPUs are like before deciding on cooling. But the H115 seems excessive. Probably the cheaper H100x is more than fine.

 

[mehrez]

Thanks you very much ! it was very informative !

 

[Oussebon]

You're welcome - keep us updated

 

[mehrez]

Hi, I'm back, I just received my salary so I decided to take a better configuration, especially with regard to the graphics card. Finally I chose this, and after doing some research, I feel all the pieces are going well together. Could you check one last time and advise me if possible? Thank you !
Boîtier
BOÎTIER GAMING COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500P ()
Processeur overclocké
Intel® Core™i7-9700K Eight Core surcadencé (3,60 GHz @ jusqu'à 5,0 GHz)

Recevez Total War: Three Kingdoms et plus avec l'achat d'une sélection de processeurs Intel !
Carte mère
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6 Go/s - Compatible RGB
Mémoire (RAM)
16 Go Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000 MHz (2 x 8 Go)
Carte graphique
11 Go NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3 DP - Compatible GeForce RTX VR !

Obtenez Wolfenstein: Young Blood avec une sélection de cartes graphiques NVIDIA GeForce RTX !
1er Disque de stockage
SSD 480 Go ADATA SU650 2,5 POUCES, SATA 6 Go (520 Mo/R, 450 Mo/W)
2e Disque de stockage
DISQUE DUR SATA-III 3 To, 3,5 POUCES HDD, 6 Go/s, 7200 T/MIN, 64 Mo DE CACHE
Lecteur DVD/BLU-RAY
NON REQUIS(E)
Alimentation
CORSAIR 650 W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAIRE 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA-SILENCIEUX
Câble d'alimentation
1 câble d'alimentation européen, 1 m (C13/14)
Refroidissement du processeur
Refroidisseur pour processeur Corsair H115i PRO Hydro Series haute performance
Pâte thermique
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER PÂTE THERMIQUE
Carte son
HIGH DEF AUDIO (EN STANDARD) 6 CANAUX (5.1) INTÉGRÉ
Connexion Wi-Fi/filaire
CARTE PCI-E WI-FI 802.11N 300 Mbps/2,4 GHz

 

[Oussebon]

Why not wait for Zen 2? it may well be better than Intel's offerings, or the same but with a more modern platform / motherboard etc.

 

[mehrez]

Yes it would be smarter for me to wait another month and not rush

 

[mehrez]

Hi boss!
I'm back, here is finally the output of ryzen 3000. I looked at the benchmarks, and I am totally surprised by the ryzen 5 3600, it looks monstrous.
Regarding my configuration, as a graphics card I take the rtx 2080 ti, but as for the processor, I use my pc only for gaming, according to you should I go on the ryzen 5 3600 or 3600x or so the ryzen 7 3000?
I must have heard that the ryzen 5 3600 (x) was designed for gaming, more than the ryzen 7 3000, is that right? it is more powerful for gaming?
Thank you