So spent a while dumping my external hd's onto internal and now trying to re organise everything. everytime i move large files between the internals explorer goes crazy or just stops. if i move to an external its fine. from one internal to the other via external is fine. back up function is fine. everything on both internals play fine, load fine, in full working order i just cant move more than about a gig from 1 internal to the other without it crashing.i havnt lost any data and putting things back to external just incase. diskcheck all clear. 2x1tb internals. i can still do everything i have to its just slower this way. any ideas?
error moving large files between internals
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pengipete
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Are you moving the same drive between external and internal each time?
Do both drives show up in BIOS when they're installed internally?
Assuming that they are both SATA drives, I'm wondering if the problem could be down to the transfer modes - maybe the external housing only supports IDE mode but the motherboard's BIOS is set to AHCI or vice versa. If it is such a conflict, you should be able to sort it by transferring all of the data from the external drive to the internal one then install the other drive internally and format it. You may need to perform a CMOS reset before formatting to ensure that the board correctly identifies and mounts the drives.
You could also look at installing Intel's Rapid Storage drivers and tools - they give the best results and provide some diagnostics.
If either or both are IDE drives, check the master/slave jumpers and make sure that the data cable is connected the right way around if it's an asynchronous two-drive cable - the longest section goes to the motherboard.
Do both drives show up in BIOS when they're installed internally?
Assuming that they are both SATA drives, I'm wondering if the problem could be down to the transfer modes - maybe the external housing only supports IDE mode but the motherboard's BIOS is set to AHCI or vice versa. If it is such a conflict, you should be able to sort it by transferring all of the data from the external drive to the internal one then install the other drive internally and format it. You may need to perform a CMOS reset before formatting to ensure that the board correctly identifies and mounts the drives.
You could also look at installing Intel's Rapid Storage drivers and tools - they give the best results and provide some diagnostics.
If either or both are IDE drives, check the master/slave jumpers and make sure that the data cable is connected the right way around if it's an asynchronous two-drive cable - the longest section goes to the motherboard.
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sorry for my slow responce. although i'm not sure of the source of the problem all is well again now. reformatting the hard drive and re installing my os seems to have everything back in perfect working order but i will keep an eye on it. before doing that as far as i could tell from the many system scanning tools i tried everything was in perfect working order. no errors, bad sectors, everything was clean.
just to clarify . i have 2 identical internal hard drives which is where the problem was. moving between them caused the crashs to begin with then shortly before i wiped it , it was even crashing moving to my external which made backing up long winded.
i can only assume there was an error that wasnt being found or something wrong with my previos install of win7. if i do find out anything more certain i will post it for anyone having the same trouble.
My pc is running great and i'm still very happy with it
far to many hard reboots with it crashing for my liking but no file loss, no errors.
and thanks for the replies guys.
just to clarify . i have 2 identical internal hard drives which is where the problem was. moving between them caused the crashs to begin with then shortly before i wiped it , it was even crashing moving to my external which made backing up long winded.
i can only assume there was an error that wasnt being found or something wrong with my previos install of win7. if i do find out anything more certain i will post it for anyone having the same trouble.
My pc is running great and i'm still very happy with it
far to many hard reboots with it crashing for my liking but no file loss, no errors. and thanks for the replies guys.
Gorman
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Can you clarify please? is the machine hard rebooting?
hard rebooting - using the reset button as apposed to restarting properly. when copying/moving it looked like explorer was crashing. not always to a full stop. sometimes i made it to click cancel on the copy or/shutdown/restart ect but nothing happened, it just sat there. . . until i reset it and after it was fine till i tried to move things again.
all is well now its just curiosity making me want to know what and why.
all is well now its just curiosity making me want to know what and why.
pengipete
Rising Star
Windows can sometimes appear to have stalled when you click cancel buttons but in reality it's stopping the operation, undoing some of what it had already done and gathering information to report back - it's all part of the way it avoids losing data if the PC crashes. If you press the reset switch whilst that is going on, you risk corrupting the data and possibly even your Windows installation.
If you've done that once and the data on the read drive was corrupted, that might be the cause of the later problems as Windows tries repeatedly to reconstruct corrupted data before announcing an error the next time you try to copy the files. If the Windows drive was affected, it is - to a large extent - self-repairing but that too would slow transfers down if you are copying to or from the same physical drive.
It's rare for Windows to totally crash - most often people assume the worst when they can't see anything happening. The hard reset switch is very tempting but when the OS is loaded, it should be treated as an absolute last resort due the risk of lost or corrupted data.
If you've done that once and the data on the read drive was corrupted, that might be the cause of the later problems as Windows tries repeatedly to reconstruct corrupted data before announcing an error the next time you try to copy the files. If the Windows drive was affected, it is - to a large extent - self-repairing but that too would slow transfers down if you are copying to or from the same physical drive.
It's rare for Windows to totally crash - most often people assume the worst when they can't see anything happening. The hard reset switch is very tempting but when the OS is loaded, it should be treated as an absolute last resort due the risk of lost or corrupted data.
thanks for the reply again. hard reboot is always a last resort for me. copying a 200mb file, it crashed 50 meg through, crashing explorer, saying cancelling for over an hour, with task manager/shutdown/reboot non functioning.
to get more information on the crashing i used teracopy . so i could watch the progress. see what when and where something stopped. whats confused me is the lack of consistancy. sometimes i could move 20 gig in 1 go, sometimes 20 meg if as far as i could get from a fresh reboot, never a problem on the same file twice that i noticed, no corrupt data that i have found on the back ups. it was behaving like a bad sector on the hd but never in the same place or the same size lol. again just so no1 wastes time on this i have no problem anymore.i am just curiose. the speed/noise levels of the hd all seem normal . i've spent far to much time thinking about this lol
to get more information on the crashing i used teracopy . so i could watch the progress. see what when and where something stopped. whats confused me is the lack of consistancy. sometimes i could move 20 gig in 1 go, sometimes 20 meg if as far as i could get from a fresh reboot, never a problem on the same file twice that i noticed, no corrupt data that i have found on the back ups. it was behaving like a bad sector on the hd but never in the same place or the same size lol. again just so no1 wastes time on this i have no problem anymore.i am just curiose. the speed/noise levels of the hd all seem normal . i've spent far to much time thinking about this lol